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  • #16
    Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post
    Yes, I remember. It was good times. We must get back at it again. Too long time has passed. Lol

    We should never fight bro, I love you too much.
    dont worry parsiwanak your father on my avatar your people- kind in afghanistan will see him soon this will be great just wait a little bit let the afghans first bring the usa down from your modar than we will have party
    ferdos or what ever your name is you trolling here but i am serious parsiwanak

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Pakhton View Post
      dont worry parsiwanak your father on my avatar your people- kind in afghanistan will see him soon this will be great just wait a little bit let the afghans first bring the usa down from your modar than we will have party
      ferdos or what ever your name is you trolling here but i am serious parsiwanak

      Why so serious pakiji?

      Life too short to be serious. Give me your adress, i can pick you up, we can go to beach or go to theme park.

      This one looks thrilling:



      I would like to see my, granpa someday, but I feel sad to be the only to have that privilige. We can all come close to meeting our granpas without any arguments. I can guarantee that. Trust me. Lets go

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        I believe the main problem with the partition of Afghanistan is that its not really an ideal solution to our problems. The very nature of the Western nation-state is behind our fail. Afghanistan will always be a failed state. Won´t work. Never worked. But I do not know how creating more nation-states will improve our situation.

        Nationalism is extremely dangerous. Now there seems to be a consensus between non Pashtun nationalists against Pashtuns. But once Pashtuns are gone, they will start killing each other. Its a divisive and dangerous ideology. We need to unite under some more universal and unifying ideology. Honestly speaking other than Islam I can not think of any other unifying ideology right now.
        There's also the problem of Pashtuns in the North and West and non-Pashtuns in the South and East. What's gonna happen to all of them? Are they gonna be forced to move? Or are we gonna go Indian on them and slaughter and rape them all because they are slightly different from us?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post
          There's also the problem of Pashtuns in the North and West and non-Pashtuns in the South and East. What's gonna happen to all of them? Are they gonna be forced to move? Or are we gonna go Indian on them and slaughter and rape them all because they are slightly different from us?
          Maybe you are an Indic tribe after all, as your Indic cousins are telling you. Lol

          Maybe you should join Pakistan and merge with Greater India. Indians and Indics will love you there. Actually they will worship the ground you walk on, fill their Bollywood with you...and lastly and most importantly raping innocent women is a national sport of Indix lands. not such a bad deal. Lol
          Last edited by UnknownUser; 08-18-2018, 12:34 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post
            There's also the problem of Pashtuns in the North and West and non-Pashtuns in the South and East. What's gonna happen to all of them? Are they gonna be forced to move? Or are we gonna go Indian on them and slaughter and rape them all because they are slightly different from us?
            In case of partition, that would be the most likely scenario: ethnic cleansing. But once again I believe we are making some wrong assumptions. What about a Persianspeaker Pashtun from Farah, should he be forced to leave? What about those guys who half Tajik and half Pashtun? What if a Pashtun in the north decides to join Khorasan and not Pashtunistan? Should we treat him like a second class citizen?

            Partition is a dangerous idea imo. But at the same time it increasingly clear to all of us that it might happen.
            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

            -Ferdowsi.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
              I believe the main problem with the partition of Afghanistan is that its not really an ideal solution to our problems. The very nature of the Western nation-state is behind our fail. Afghanistan will always be a failed state. Won´t work. Never worked. But I do not know how creating more nation-states will improve our situation.

              Nationalism is extremely dangerous. Now there seems to be a consensus between non Pashtun nationalists against Pashtuns. But once Pashtuns are gone, they will start killing each other. Its a divisive and dangerous ideology. We need to unite under some more universal and unifying ideology. Honestly speaking other than Islam I can not think of any other unifying ideology right now.
              You are absolutely right. Afghanistan will never work, but at the same time its probably also true that its hard to find a solution.

              Whats your thoughts on a Pan-Persian state, at least in Central Asia, if not including Iran?

              Imo Persian speaking world have way too much in common to stay divided and isolated forever. This region has been the core of human civilization for the past 5000 years. Alexander (minimal impact), Arabs, Mongols, Euros) largest impact) put a dent to this continuity. But a continuity could be re-established in the future.

              Uzbekistan has lost lot of its Persian speakers due to Uzbekifikation. But still the important citiea are still retaining. Tajikistan is finding its Persian identity. Iranis are becoming aware too of the bigger wider Persian speaking world.

              If these lands could create philosophers, scientists, mathematicians, etc. 1000s of years ago, then not even the sky is the limit in this age. The next Avicenna could be herding goats right now if not getting killed in bomb blasts.

              I am doing phd in a top western university, 20 years ago I was litterally hearding goats. If only we had a system like that again back home. But I have really no home right now. I consider myself simply a passenger. Here I am still another dirty muslim potential terrorist (people dont say it to your face lf course, but you are still 'outsider'/) despite my credentials. I want to leave one day, but where to go? I have come to realized I like people who look like me, sound like me and talk like me. We have so much in common despite being strangers. I absolutely hate being viewed as a different race (in western world its another term for a different species lol).
              Last edited by UnknownUser; 08-17-2018, 10:13 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Pakhton View Post
                dont worry parsiwanak your father on my avatar your people- kind in afghanistan will see him soon this will be great just wait a little bit let the afghans first bring the usa down from your modar than we will have party
                ferdos or what ever your name is you trolling here but i am serious parsiwanak

                Can you dig him up so we can see first what state he is in, so we dont get too shocked when we meet him again?

                We like to see our father in your avatar. If you turn him into your wallpaper, we'd be even more happy. I propose painting your inside house with pictures of him. That will make the effect 100 times stronger, imo.
                Last edited by UnknownUser; 08-18-2018, 07:22 AM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by UnknownUser View Post
                  Afghanistan is mishmash of two major populations. In teams of linguistics and culture IT can be divided into half Persian, the other half mostly Pashtun.

                  Haha. That's really funny. This smelly paki ji thinks that Uzbeks, Hazaras and Turkmens have 'Persian culture' just because they can speak the language.


                  Dimwit.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                    Haha. That's really funny. This smelly paki ji thinks that Uzbeks, Hazaras and Turkmens have 'Persian culture' just because they can speak the language.


                    Dimwit.
                    In Afghanistan almost all ethnic groups are somewhat influenced by "Persian culture" (by Persian I mean Tajik).
                    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                    -Ferdowsi.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                      In Afghanistan almost all ethnic groups are somewhat influenced by "Persian culture" (by Persian I mean Tajik).
                      Yes that's right much of the communities and citites in Afghanistan are influenced by Persian culture, some more than others and a few are historically Iranian we all know that. But that isnt the issue.

                      Uzbeks, Hazaras and Turkmens of Afghanistan have their own cultures and histories, which are not Persian. I know that some Hazaras try to think of themselves somehow as 'Persian', but they're not and they are fooling no one but themselves.

                      Tajiks are an Iranian or Persianate whatever you want to call it people historically and culturally. But i think it is laughable and sad at the same time when people try to apply that 'Persian' label onto Hazaras and Uzbeks too (sad when Hazaras try to do that themselves).

                      Speaking about Afghanistan in terms of a Persian zone and a Pashtun zone is nonsense unless you are broadly talking only about language. It does not work like that when talking about culture, race and history though.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                        Yes that's right much of the communities and citites in Afghanistan are influenced by Persian culture, some more than others and a few are historically Iranian we all know that. But that isnt the issue.

                        Uzbeks, Hazaras and Turkmens of Afghanistan have their own cultures and histories, which are not Persian. I know that some Hazaras try to think of themselves somehow as 'Persian', but they're not and they are fooling no one but themselves.

                        Tajiks are an Iranian or Persianate whatever you want to call it people historically and culturally. But i think it is laughable and sad at the same time when people try to apply that 'Persian' label onto Hazaras and Uzbeks too (sad when Hazaras try to do that themselves).

                        Speaking about Afghanistan in terms of a Persian zone and a Pashtun zone is nonsense unless you are broadly talking only about language. It does not work like that when talking about culture, race and history though.
                        Good point. But do not poke your black nose into our domestic issues. None of your business.
                        "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                        I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                        -Ferdowsi.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                          Good point. But do not poke your black nose into our domestic issues. None of your business.

                          LOL, your domestic issues? You mean, Mongolia?? Try to open up those gook eyes of yours.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
                            LOL, your domestic issues? You mean, Mongolia?? Try to open up those gook eyes of yours.
                            Oh boy I love how triggered you get when I call you Paki lol. I bet you look like Apu but a bit more overweighted
                            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                            -Ferdowsi.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                              Oh boy I love how triggered you get when I call you Paki lol. I bet you look like Apu but a bit more overweighted
                              hazara shadibaz you look like the a.hole of apu with your eyes and nose calm down parsiwan shia relax

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                              • #30
                                this weak admin of this forum hording here this parsiwan **** discusting how is that anymore a pashtunforum these parsiwan rats worming around here promoting their shia iranian nonsense and we have to accept that? where the bullet to wipe these parsiwans out from this forum yara. shame yourself admin khan

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