Saudi crown prince: Israelis have right to their own land

[khushal]

Egypt was not an experiment nor an American conspiracy. It was a popular uprising against a pro-Western government led by Mubarak. There was no need for experiments since USA has always opposed democracy in the Islamic for the simple reason that its a hostile region that will never accept Western hegemony. Democracy and elections would work against American interests for only anti-American governments would be elected. Americans know this and Muslims know this.

In Algeria when a Islamist party won the elections the government was toppled by a Western backed coup. In Palestine, Hamas won elections and West refused to accept. In Iran, Mossadegh won elections and was toppled by the American Ajax Operation. In Turkey, Erbakan and Menderes were toppled by Western backed forces. Coup against Erdogan was just the last attempt to get rid of a ruler hostile to the West. In Afghanistan USA has rigged every single elections since they invaded us in 2001. No need to be a rocket scientist to realize that MB government was doomed since its first day.

USA has lost. After the first Iraqi war the Persian Gulf became an American Lake. USA set the pace and the rules. American stupidity, warmongerism and short-sighted fascism has destroyed the American empire. Since this country is addicted to war, it wont stop interfering in the Islamic world. USA is just stuck in an endless and losing war against Islamist forces everywhere. Debt is skyrocketing and victory is not at sight. The American empire and its Pax Americana are dead.

Nationalism is back dude. I use to travel to Islamic countries on a regular basis and the mood has really changed after the Arab Spring. As I pointed out before its just temporary and nationalism per se its a weak ideology. It will fail once again (it always fails) and Islamist forces will be back sooner or later.

Its true what you say about algeria, gaza and the other but the US did back the toppling of mubarak and were supporting the demonstrators who were initially the liberals. MB joined in later after the US endorsed the demonstrations.

Your right, it wasnt an experiment. The defense industry usually pushes these policies through to get gov contracts. They know its stupid but the greed is too powerful.

[torkham]

Heir to Saudi Arabia's throne says his country shares a lot of common interests with Israel.

Saudi crown prince: Israelis have right to their own land | Israel News | Al Jazeera

The cat is out of the bag. Personally I believe this new alliance between Israel and KSA makes sense. Iran is a bigger threat and both hate that country. USA is an empire in decline and its pretty well known that sooner or later will leave the ME. The G-Zero world is around the corner.

Also the Palestinian cause has lost all relevance. Its a peripheral low-intensity war. For KSA an alliance with Israel, a leading country in economy and technology and also a military regional power with nukes is better than Palestinians, who have nothing to offer.

Honestly speaking now although I disagree with how Israel has been using USA to advance her own agenda, Israel is a way more moral country than Syrian regime, Iran and most of other Islamic countries. In 70 years of conflict Israel has killed around 90k Arabs have been killed. Only in 5 years Bashar butchered 500k Arabs. During the Black September incident Jordan killed up to 25k Palestinians.. IN ONE MONTH.

I dont want to portray Zionists as victims because its obvious that they are not, but Palestinians are a bit frustrating too. I used to be a hardcore anti-Zionist but my perceptions regarding this country have changed a lot. Although I reject and oppose the "aliya system", I do consider most of Israelis Middle Easterns. Those who were born in there are from there. And they have a right to exist and live in there.

There is a lesson there. What do you think, guys?

Indeed cat out of the bag, ..... it was just a matter of time when people realized how much these Sods looks like rabies (if you get me drift

Now do you really believe the our western aryan neighbours are any more nefarious than Kaka Sam, Tommy or Hans?

I was listening to Medea Benjamin and agreeing with her on her recent intervention of Trump’s speakers little speech. He was agitating for action against Iran. Then she took over the stage, made her points whilst being removed by security. Each of her point about Sham, Libya, Iraq demanded review of Kaka Sam’s policies.

Do you really think there is hard evidence for a world order threat? It is all so ethereal. Even these highly secretive Bilderberg seem like typically ordinary strategic meetings of business leader - like the Gentlemen’s clubs of London.

[torkham]

Having lived in the ME, I have now developed a deep hatred of Palestinians and Iraqis, they (Palestinians) are on the whole most arrogant people I have met and deserve what they get. How ever Arabs were just not savvy enough to know when they were being disenfranchised of a home they SHARED with Jews for Millennia, and the Brits were just too clever and dumped their problem (the White man’s guilt of what they did to the Jews) on Trans Jordan. The remaining Arabs too sucked up (aspired) to the west and lost their own moral, cultural compas, and so easily lost their grip on their nations. The Egyptians, Libyans thinking that sharing the Mediterranean coast meant they are Mediterranean Europeans, and too indulged in the good things of life, now inebriated and losing it to the West.

Our Parsian neighbours, as vile as the schism from the Rightfully Guided maybe are the injured party since Mossadagh rightfully told British to leave and nationalized the oil company. Ever since they have been terrorized as the boogie man with AJAX and Pahlavi projects to dissect their nation.

Equally nefarious as their arch enemy the Sods. Which evil is better?

[randolph85]

Its true what you say about algeria, gaza and the other but the US did back the toppling of mubarak and were supporting the demonstrators who were initially the liberals. MB joined in later after the US endorsed the demonstrations.

Your right, it wasnt an experiment. The defense industry usually pushes these policies through to get gov contracts. They know its stupid but the greed is too powerful.

Why would they back the downfall of a perfect partner of America and Israel? Unless you mean the US later supported the protestors because they could see the Mubarak ship sinking.

[کیش]

That doesnt make sense. Its easier to attack a yacht than a fortified building plus if its half a billion than its more of a war ship not a yacht.

Article:

Saudi Arabia crown prince Mohammed bin Salman on yacht for security

Picture of yacht

[jama0112]

Are they(arabs) arrogant towards all non-arab people? Because i have heard the same opinion about arabs from my dad. He also said persians(iranians) aren't trustworthy.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Are they(arabs) arrogant towards all non-arab people? Because i have heard the same opinion about arabs from my dad. He also said persians(iranians) aren't trustworthy.

People are quite often arrogant towards other people who aren't their own. Nothing that's particular/unique to Arabs or to Persians or even the British.

[khushal]

Arrogance is the product of money, power and ignorance. The Gulf Arabs have all 3 ingredients so yes they are arrogant but not just to non arabs but to all people arab and non arab that dont have money power and ignorance.

[khushal]

Article:

Saudi Arabia crown prince Mohammed bin Salman on yacht for security

Picture of yacht

That does not look like a $500 million boat.

[UnknownUser]

Why do nonArabs care so Much about Arabs?

Specially when they dont give **** about you non-arabs?

All you non-arabs are to an arab is a reminder of their false sense of supremacy.

Israel can do whatever the **** it wants, beacuse its technically the number 1 and number 51 of the United States of America. Its a European settler nation in middel east. No more different than Canada, US, Latin America, Australia. Arabs or palestinian cant do anything about it.

[UnknownUser]

Arrogance is the product of money, power and ignorance. The Gulf Arabs have all 3 ingredients so yes they are arrogant but not just to non arabs but to all people arab and non arab that dont have money power and ignorance.

All they have is oil. Stroke of luck in modern times. If oil was unuseful, theyd be amongst the poorest. Nothing wrong with that. Seeing as you cant grow much in dry waterless deserts.

[randolph85]

That does not look like a $500 million boat.

It has Warren Buffet on the turrets. He is expensive.

[khushal]

Why would they back the downfall of a perfect partner of America and Israel? Unless you mean the US later supported the protestors because they could see the Mubarak ship sinking.

Mubarak ship was sinking but all nationalists and monarchs ships would sink if not supported by US. His ship sank because Obama refused to save it. He thought young drunk womanizing Egyptians would bring a new dawoosi/qoni era.

U.S. Faces Stark Choice as Mubarak Clings to Office - The New York Times