Saudi crown prince: Israelis have right to their own land

[Firdousi]

Heir to Saudi Arabia's throne says his country shares a lot of common interests with Israel.

Saudi crown prince: Israelis have right to their own land | Israel News | Al Jazeera

The cat is out of the bag. Personally I believe this new alliance between Israel and KSA makes sense. Iran is a bigger threat and both hate that country. USA is an empire in decline and its pretty well known that sooner or later will leave the ME. The G-Zero world is around the corner.

Also the Palestinian cause has lost all relevance. Its a peripheral low-intensity war. For KSA an alliance with Israel, a leading country in economy and technology and also a military regional power with nukes is better than Palestinians, who have nothing to offer.

Honestly speaking now although I disagree with how Israel has been using USA to advance her own agenda, Israel is a way more moral country than Syrian regime, Iran and most of other Islamic countries. In 70 years of conflict Israel has killed around 90k Arabs have been killed. Only in 5 years Bashar butchered 500k Arabs. During the Black September incident Jordan killed up to 25k Palestinians.. IN ONE MONTH.

I dont want to portray Zionists as victims because its obvious that they are not, but Palestinians are a bit frustrating too. I used to be a hardcore anti-Zionist but my perceptions regarding this country have changed a lot. Although I reject and oppose the "aliya system", I do consider most of Israelis Middle Easterns. Those who were born in there are from there. And they have a right to exist and live in there.

There is a lesson there. What do you think, guys?

[Akbar]

This clown Prince is provoking Muslims.
I think the Saudis are finally coming out into open about who they really are and what their agenda is.

The greater Israel project is in motion.
Israel is the next super power of the world.

From Islamic point of view this is work towards dajjali times.

[Kakar-Wardak]

Giving fuel to the theory that the Saudi royals are actually crypto Jews lol.

[Firdousi]

This clown Prince is provoking Muslims.
I think the Saudis are finally coming out into open about who they really are and what their agenda is.

The greater Israel project is in motion.
Israel is the next super power of the world.

From Islamic point of view this is work towards dajjali times.

This Greater Israel project is BS. Pure anti-semite conspiracy theory. If Israel wanted to create a Greater Israel at the expense of Arabs.. how come they gave back Sinai to Egypt? How come they gave back Gaza to Al Fatah? How come they withdrew from Lebanon? It doenst make sense.

Also Israel has not the human nor the material resources to carry out such a massive operation. The Attrition War after the Six Days war and the Southern Lebanon occupation proved how unable Israel is to engage in prolonged asymmetric conflicts. They cant even defeat Hamas which is a weak movement with almost no foreign support. The 1973 war was a good example for Israel that sooner or later Israel wont be able to win wars anymore.

You need to be more realistic and rational when it comes to studying geopolitics specially in the ME. Politics is a complicated matter. Demonization and dehumanization of Jews wont help us.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

This Greater Israel project is BS. Pure anti-semite conspiracy theory. If Israel wanted to create a Greater Israel at the expense of Arabs.. how come they gave back Sinai to Egypt? How come they gave back Gaza to Al Fatah? How come they withdrew from Lebanon? It doenst make sense.

Also Israel has not the human nor the material resources to carry out such a massive operation. The Attrition War after the Six Days war and the Southern Lebanon occupation proved how unable Israel is to engage in prolonged asymmetric conflicts. They cant even defeat Hamas which is a weak movement with almost no foreign support. The 1973 war was a good example for Israel that sooner or later Israel wont be able to win wars anymore.

You need to be more realistic and rational when it comes to studying geopolitics specially in the ME. Politics is a complicated matter. Demonization and dehumanization of Jews wont help us.

The voice of reason ...as usual ... Saudis are Crypto-Jews, that one is hilarity, does that make Jews that fight against Israeli attrition against Palestinians, Crypto-Muslims or Christians? Goodness ...

The British Sex-Gang Groomers were really RAW Agents out to make Muslims look bad. This is exactly what I've been saying regarding why we need to stop pandering to everyone. Prove things to everyone. We spend more time doing that than actually correcting internal problems, we spend more time trying to find scapegoats or co-opt our problems rather than dealing with uncomfortable issues.

There are Good Muslim, there are okay Muslims, bad Muslims and there are terrible Muslims; it may not be because Islam instructs them to do so, but they exist regardless. I heard one where Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi was really a Mossad agent. Honestly, I think Mossad spreads disinformation like this intentionally to troll gullible Muslims. So UK is supposedly a place where Muslims are "free" and have a good life, but they're terrified about women having hijabs pulled off on punish a Muslim day.

However, you have to understand the nature of diplomacy, I don't think the fact that Israel gave Sinai back or relinquished South Lebanon is evidence that Israel doesn't have some design for usurping s much territory as possible. But it has nothing to do with Elders of Zion but well just power. It also has nothing to do with DAAAA JEWWWWS. The Saudis are not crypto Jews, they're just awful Muslims who are more worried about their power and control that they'll even ally with Israel if it means "Dirty Mushirk, Kuifar, Najis Shi'a Persian Majoosi" aren't in power. That is not a pass on how abysmal the Iranian Regime is, because they are disgusting and have done as much damage to Iran as the Pahlavi family. But corrupt is corrupt, and noble is noble, it doesn't matter which Sect, Creed, Deen one affiliates themselves with.

We're in the situation we're in because the Muslim population has fostered degenerates and have allowed them to reap power. The Birtish didn't colonize India because the Mughals were Noble Muslims, they were degenerates at the time of colonization and lead the way. Decrying Nawruz, Growing your beard to a fist length or making sure your hijab is "fashionable" is not the remedy for that.

[khushal]

The Saudis have had an alliance with Israel for a long time but why come out of the closet now would be the question. Coming out of the closet puts the Saudis in danger by giving their critics more ammunition to unseat them. The Israelis must be putting pressure on them "recognize us or your finished."

[Akbar]

The Saudis have had an alliance with Israel for a long time but why come out of the closet now would be the question. Coming out of the closet puts the Saudis in danger by giving their critics more ammunition to unseat them. The Israelis must be putting pressure on them "recognize us or your finished."

Because Israel is the next super power.
Donald trump is busy finishing America's standing as superpower around the world.

Recognizing Jerusalem as capital
Unwavering support for Israel
Shunning any support for Palestinians

And more examples of how Israel being groomed for the position.

[Akbar]

This Greater Israel project is BS. Pure anti-semite conspiracy theory. If Israel wanted to create a Greater Israel at the expense of Arabs.. how come they gave back Sinai to Egypt? How come they gave back Gaza to Al Fatah? How come they withdrew from Lebanon? It doenst make sense.

Also Israel has not the human nor the material resources to carry out such a massive operation. The Attrition War after the Six Days war and the Southern Lebanon occupation proved how unable Israel is to engage in prolonged asymmetric conflicts. They cant even defeat Hamas which is a weak movement with almost no foreign support. The 1973 war was a good example for Israel that sooner or later Israel wont be able to win wars anymore.

You need to be more realistic and rational when it comes to studying geopolitics specially in the ME. Politics is a complicated matter. Demonization and dehumanization of Jews wont help us.

It might be BS to you but not to Zionists who are working towards achieving zion or greater Israel.
Anti Semitic? First off those white eastern European invaders of Palestine are not Israelites but imposters.

You are either naive or wilfully ignorant to think that the blockade of Gaza and building of settlements is "giving back".

Hizbullah and Iran never actually had any skirmishes with Israel let alone a fight. Iam not gonna argue about them.

Israel has the human and material resources of America and Europe. I think you should check how much military and material support they got since their exiatance. Also let's not forget the evangelical Christians religious support.

It Is very strong you would tell me that I need to be realistic while you are the one trying to give a human face to a regime which arrests and kills Palestinian children.

But it all boils down to you being khod kush begana parast.
You spare no second criticisizing Muslims for things which don't need criticism yet you think it's dehumanizing to jews if I state facts about Israel. Zionists are also condemned by Jews and it is a nationalist secular ideology.

Also ponder on this
The war in Afghanistan is for the sake of Israel.

[Akbar]

The voice of reason ...as usual ... Saudis are Crypto-Jews, that one is hilarity, does that make Jews that fight against Israeli attrition against Palestinians, Crypto-Muslims or Christians? Goodness ...

The British Sex-Gang Groomers were really RAW Agents out to make Muslims look bad. This is exactly what I've been saying regarding why we need to stop pandering to everyone. Prove things to everyone. We spend more time doing that than actually correcting internal problems, we spend more time trying to find scapegoats or co-opt our problems rather than dealing with uncomfortable issues.

There are Good Muslim, there are okay Muslims, bad Muslims and there are terrible Muslims; it may not be because Islam instructs them to do so, but they exist regardless. I heard one where Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi was really a Mossad agent. Honestly, I think Mossad spreads disinformation like this intentionally to troll gullible Muslims. So UK is supposedly a place where Muslims are "free" and have a good life, but they're terrified about women having hijabs pulled off on punish a Muslim day.

However, you have to understand the nature of diplomacy, I don't think the fact that Israel gave Sinai back or relinquished South Lebanon is evidence that Israel doesn't have some design for usurping s much territory as possible. But it has nothing to do with Elders of Zion but well just power. It also has nothing to do with DAAAA JEWWWWS. The Saudis are not crypto Jews, they're just awful Muslims who are more worried about their power and control that they'll even ally with Israel if it means "Dirty Mushirk, Kuifar, Najis Shi'a Persian Majoosi" aren't in power. That is not a pass on how abysmal the Iranian Regime is, because they are disgusting and have done as much damage to Iran as the Pahlavi family. But corrupt is corrupt, and noble is noble, it doesn't matter which Sect, Creed, Deen one affiliates themselves with.

We're in the situation we're in because the Muslim population has fostered degenerates and have allowed them to reap power. The Birtish didn't colonize India because the Mughals were Noble Muslims, they were degenerates at the time of colonization and lead the way. Decrying Nawruz, Growing your beard to a fist length or making sure your hijab is "fashionable" is not the remedy for you that.

Take it easy tiger
I agree with a lot of your points scrapping the irrelevant rants.
Remember sometimes reality is stranger than fiction.

A credible source told me that the al saud family were Indian and Hindus and were fostered and installed by the British empire.

[Firdousi]

It might be BS to you but not to Zionists who are working towards achieving zion or greater Israel.
Anti Semitic? First off those white eastern European invaders of Palestine are not Israelites but imposters.

You are either naive or wilfully ignorant to think that the blockade of Gaza and building of settlements is "giving back".

Hizbullah and Iran never actually had any skirmishes with Israel let alone a fight. Iam not gonna argue about them.

Israel has the human and material resources of America and Europe. I think you should check how much military and material support they got since their exiatance. Also let's not forget the evangelical Christians religious support.

It Is very strong you would tell me that I need to be realistic while you are the one trying to give a human face to a regime which arrests and kills Palestinian children.

But it all boils down to you being khod kush begana parast.
You spare no second criticisizing Muslims for things which don't need criticism yet you think it's dehumanizing to jews if I state facts about Israel. Zionists are also condemned by Jews and it is a nationalist secular ideology.

Also ponder on this
The war in Afghanistan is for the sake of Israel.

I thought you were a smart guy but now I see you are kinda deluded.

[Firdousi]

The Saudis have had an alliance with Israel for a long time but why come out of the closet now would be the question. Coming out of the closet puts the Saudis in danger by giving their critics more ammunition to unseat them. The Israelis must be putting pressure on them "recognize us or your finished."

The Iranian Revolution changed all the geopolitical dynamics in the region. I still remember how KSA offered Israel in 2006 that in case they wanted to attack Iran they were allowed to use Saudi airspace.

I believe they made it public out of necessity. KSA is one of the main losers in the Western-led regional order collapse. Arab Spring changed everything. Israel is not the enemy anymore.

Also MbS seems that wants to become the champion and leader of a pseudo-secular nationalist Arab world. Israel is not a threat to this. Iran is.

[khushal]

The Iranian Revolution changed all the geopolitical dynamics in the region. I still remember how KSA offered Israel in 2006 that in case they wanted to attack Iran they were allowed to use Saudi airspace.

I believe they made it public out of necessity. KSA is one of the main losers in the Western-led regional order collapse. Arab Spring changed everything. Israel is not the enemy anymore.

Also MbS seems that wants to become the champion and leader of a pseudo-secular nationalist Arab world. Israel is not a threat to this. Iran is.

Deposing Saddam and the Taliban changed the political dynamics in the region which gave Iran huge leverage. But Iran spending their resources for influence outside their borders sometimes breeds resentment at home if they are ignoring their own peoples needs.

This is still a bad move for the Saudis, they could still do what they need to do from the closet.

[Akbar]

I thought you were a smart guy but now I see you are kinda deluded.

I don't need your approval of being smart or otherwise.
It's obvious you use personals because you have weak arguments.
Calling me deluded while preaching against western hegemony even though you support it in Afghanistan. They even made Ahmad Shah masood a hero for you.

[Kakar-Wardak]

MBS will fail The days of secular nationalist Arab regimes has long passed, but it will be interesting to see how he keeps the wahabies in check, won't be surprised if we see some fatwas calling him a murtad and Wahabi mad dogs starting trouble in Saudi.

[khushal]

MBS will fail The days of secular nationalist Arab regimes has long passed, but it will be interesting to see how he keeps the wahabies in check, won't be surprised if we see some fatwas calling him a murtad and Wahabi mad dogs starting trouble in Saudi.

They got no space to do that from. they will be arrested, tortured, vanish.