#PashtunLongMarch news, updates and analysis

[Khostai]

It is already called off conditionally ...This jsutify the power of peaceful protest one has to respect...and ensure believe

Oke, so like what I said was all for nothing.

[Azmal]

after the start of this protest, missing person photos were sticked to the walls, now almost 71 missing pashtun mostly from tribal areas have returned to their homes. as release of missing person is on the list, someone is taking the heat obviously..
some local and foreign elements that is hurting this cause.
zandeeq jummati dogs, they came out more bitter, they only want tribal people to chants slogans against india and fight for kashmir, not for their rights.
ANP wala leftist secular liberal and afghanistan lover chanting slogan like lar o bar yo afghan here will do no good to our cause but we give the government an opportunity to come harsh and declare them foreign sponsored.
Indian media they are already giving news, like pashtun are marching on capital and want independence from pakistan.

You are judging from Pathan prospective not Pashtun. What is the bigger picture here? Some more cake in corrupt Pakistani system or safe the Pashtuns from slather house?

ps: never forget...NWFP name change, tons of Pashtun tv channel and etc happen only after 2002--when Afghan state was reestablished again in Kabul.

[Azmal]

Looks like the issue here is bigger piece of cake in Pakistani system rather then libration or safe our people from worth of unholy Punjo-mullah/Army.
So honestly and excuse my french why the f should i care about this? I rather go safe my people---even those innocent non-pashtuns from being slather by Porkistanis daal eater.

TO AFGHANS:
What interest we had in outpost like Moscow if it was not for Pashtunistan? but at the end let us not burn ourselves again for these Shama Cenima watching, Pashto movie producing ta bandi ma bandi Makani Pathans of great Pashtunistan.

Our Punjo enemies would have not dare to look at us if it was not for these people....Let us not be... as a Turkish proverb.
When the axe came into the woods, many of the trees said, 'At least the handle is one of us.'

[khushal]

TO AFGHANS:
What interest we had in outpost like Moscow if it was not for Pashtunistan? but at the end let us not burn ourselves again for these Shama Cenima watching, Pashto movie producing ta bandi ma bandi Makani Pathans of great Pashtunistan.

Our Punjo enemies would have not dare to look at us if it was not for these people....Let us not be... as a Turkish proverb.
When the axe came into the woods, many of the trees said, 'At least the handle is one of us.'

Hahaha, should we now call you "accept the durandline Azmal." Your just now noticing how they fooled your arse and keep fooling you.
Your starting to see a little bit of the error in your ways.

[khushal]

ps: never forget...NWFP name change, tons of Pashtun tv channel and etc happen only after 2002--when Afghan state was reestablished again in Kabul.

Never forget, Pashtuns are dying and are the main victims of the ongoing war. More than 20% of Afghan youth are drug addicts. More than 1/3 of the Afghan population are living with malnutrition. Criminality is prevalent in all aspects of the society when a very weak and divided kleptocratic Afghan Gov was established in Kabul.
Most of those TV Channels are extension of Western media trying to liberalize and feminize a conservative society which is just adding fuel to the fire.

[khushal]

So this PashtunClanMember is also Killzai?
Killzai is a junky drug addict. Junky drug addicts have no control over their bowels and they usually end up selling their arse on the streets for their fix which is why he most likely made that impulsive gay comment out of no where. LOL

[maneatinglizard]

Rally in Balkh in solidarity with the Islamabad protest:

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Idiot Gul Khans and Paki nationalists are talking about Rao Anwar fleeing to Afghanistan. How stupid can these morons get? Why would Afghanistan protect some corrupt Karachi cop? This guy is being protected by the Pakistani government, and yet even then they try to blame Afghanistan. This is what happens when you make a corrupt, third-world country your god.

Afghan nationalists should take note. Love your country all you want, but don’t become an irrational idiot who’s incapable of accepting that their country isn’t perfect.

[PashtunClanMember]

So this PashtunClanMember is also Killzai?
Killzai is a junky drug addict. Junky drug addicts have no control over their bowels and they usually end up selling their arse on the streets for their fix which is why he most likely made that impulsive gay comment out of no where. LOL

do i look like the bacha bazi parsiwan that you call father?you parsiwan pakis can go to hell with your usa and your puppet afghan government.

[maneatinglizard]

For those who want to believe that Ashraf Ghani’s support was rejected, listen to the reaction when one of the speakers thanks Ghani for his support:

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The Pakistani reaction to this march was embarrassing. They practically ignored it until Ghani tweeted about it, then rushed in for damage control, and got some of their ghulam tribal elders to reject Ghani and make pro-Pakistani statements to calm the nerves of the nationalists. All this when anyone following the protests could see that it clearly wasn’t a patriotic movement. The speeches were trashing the army and other government institutions. People got obsessed with that short “lar aw bar” chant when the entire protest was full of Pashtun unity talk.

All one needs to do is check out the twitters and Facebook of the organizers, and you’ll se how they really feel. Hint: there’s no Pakistan Zindabad in sight.

I don’t even like Ghani, at all, and yet it’s still obvious to me that his support (as well as the support of Afghans in general, including non-Pashtuns) was huge for giving the march attention. Count up the number of news stories before he tweeted about it and after if you don’t believe it.

[maneatinglizard]

Can we gather all the information about Manzoor Ahmad Pashteen? Is he fromANP?

What’s being said is that the organizers were not part of any political party (including Pashteen), but were willing to allow people of any party to speak and give their support to the movement.

It seems like most of the speeches were given by ANP members, but there was also criticism from some people that ANP ignored the march for days, so I’m not sure how involved they actually were.

[Samandri]

For those who want to believe that Ashraf Ghani’s support was rejected, listen to the reaction when one of the speakers thanks Ghani for his support:

Twitter

The Pakistani reaction to this march was embarrassing. They practically ignored it until Ghani tweeted about it, then rushed in for damage control, and got some of their ghulam tribal elders to reject Ghani and make pro-Pakistani statements to calm the nerves of the nationalists. All this when anyone following the protests could see that it clearly wasn’t a patriotic movement. The speeches were trashing the army and other government institutions. People got obsessed with that short “lar aw bar” chant when the entire protest was full of Pashtun unity talk.

All one needs to do is check out the twitters and Facebook of the organizers, and you’ll se how they really feel. Hint: there’s no Pakistan Zindabad in sight.

I don’t even like Ghani, at all, and yet it’s still obvious to me that his support (as well as the support of Afghans in general, including non-Pashtuns) was huge for giving the march attention. Count up the number of news stories before he tweeted about it and after if you don’t believe it.

The one in the twitter video is active member of ANP, his name is Muhsin Dawar. There are many Waziristanis in ANP.

The real sufferers i.e the Mahsuds and others whose family members are missing, were not there for irrelevant "lar o bar yo Afghan"" politics of ANP and PKMAP, they were not protesting for sake of Afghanistan........they saw the long march as a chance to put enough pressure on the government so that their people are released, that they are not killed extrajudicial and land mines are cleared from their area. If statements from Ashraf Ghani are helpful in achieving their goals, they will welcome it, if harmful then they will condemn it.

[Akbar]

The one in the twitter video is active member of ANP, his name is Muhsin Dawar. There are many Waziristanis in ANP.

The real sufferers i.e the Mahsuds and others whose family members are missing, were not there for irrelevant "lar o bar yo Afghan"" politics of ANP and PKMAP, they were not protesting for sake of Afghanistan........they saw the long march as a chance to put enough pressure on the government so that their people are released, that they are not killed extrajudicial and land mines are cleared from their area. If statements from Ashraf Ghani are helpful in achieving their goals, they will welcome it, if harmful then they will condemn it.

You are simply lying.
Even though I wouldn't say it was a good thing that ashraf ghani showed support but to say those people are in love with Pakistan is a false statement. I haven't seen one guy say long live Pakistan or waving the napak flag. Many him khans were quite during the protest to wave paki flag or go on with their diatribe against Afghans.
After the protest was over these cucks came out waving their flag and continue their regular napaki attitude.

[Samandri]

You are simply lying.
Even though I wouldn't say it was a good thing that ashraf ghani showed support but to say those people are in love with Pakistan is a false statement. I haven't seen one guy say long live Pakistan or waving the napak flag. Many him khans were quite during the protest to wave paki flag or go on with their diatribe against Afghans.
After the protest was over these cucks came out waving their flag and continue their regular napaki attitude.

Dear Killzai, they were not there to express their love for Pakistan or Afghanistan, they were there to protest about certain things (landmines, extrajudicial killings, missing persons etc) and force the state to stop it. Now why there were "Azadi" and "lar o bar yo Afghan" slogans but no "Pakistan zindabad" slogans in the long march? because they would have looked utter fools in shouting "Pakistan zindabad" in the protest which was against the state terrorism. When a Pakistani protest against load shedding , does he chant WAPDA zindabad?. As pointed out, most likely the flirtation with Afghanistan was done to put the pressure on the government.

[PashtunClanMember]

Dear Killzai, they were not there to express their love for Pakistan or Afghanistan, they were there to protest about certain things (landmines, extrajudicial killings, missing persons etc) and force the state to stop it. Now why there were "Azadi" and "lar o bar yo Afghan" slogans but no "Pakistan zindabad" slogans in the long march? because they would have looked utter fools in shouting "Pakistan zindabad" in the protest which was against the state terrorism. When a Pakistani protest against load shedding , does he chant WAPDA zindabad?. As pointed out, most likely the flirtation with Afghanistan was done to put the pressure on the government.

you are the guy that has this weird blog going on right where you claiming that pashtun tribes are turkic descent or crap like that and you take the claim from british or foreign sources.who ever this killzai is but looks like you are the bigger troll here.

[maneatinglizard]

The one in the twitter video is active member of ANP, his name is Muhsin Dawar. There are many Waziristanis in ANP.

The real sufferers i.e the Mahsuds and others whose family members are missing, were not there for irrelevant "lar o bar yo Afghan"" politics of ANP and PKMAP, they were not protesting for sake of Afghanistan........they saw the long march as a chance to put enough pressure on the government so that their people are released, that they are not killed extrajudicial and land mines are cleared from their area. If statements from Ashraf Ghani are helpful in achieving their goals, they will welcome it, if harmful then they will condemn it.

I know they weren’t protesting for Afghanistan. That’s why I said people were making too much of the lar aw bar chants. My point was that they aren’t Afghanistan-hating Pakistan lovers, which is how the Paki nationalists are trying to frame the protests. The fact that all of them are referencing some no-name news source (arabnews.pk? I’d never even heard of it till now lol) just shows how desperate they were to fish for anything anti-Afghanistan.

And while the speaker in the video is an ANP member, the crowd cheered very loudly for Ghani’s support, and I doubt the crowd was all Afghans/ANP members. I don’t think the crowd was doing that only to piss off the Pakistani establishment. Many Waziris took refuge in Afghanistan when the Pakistani military was destroying Waziristan, and those people were not treated like potential terrorists the way they are in Pakistan. I highly doubt those people hate Afghanistan, and it’s likely they cheered because they do feel a sense of brotherhood with Afghans that maybe isn’t as strong in other Pakistani Pashtuns who are more integrated into Pakistan.

The protests were aimed at the Pakistani establishment, demanding that they end the discriminatory treatment towards Pashtuns. I don’t know how many Afghans interpreted the calls for unity between lar and bar Pashtuns as a desire for independence or reunification, but those gestures got the Paki establishment freaking out, so hopefully they take the complaints seriously. Apparently Manzoor Pashteen ended his last speech by warning that there’d be no difference between Pashtuns and Baloch if the demands were not met, so it seems they aren’t shying away from exploiting how worried Pakistan is about ethnic uprisings.