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It's not up to you to tell lar aw bar Afghans not to support each other.Originally posted by marwat View Postafter the start of this protest, missing person photos were sticked to the walls, now almost 71 missing pashtun mostly from tribal areas have returned to their homes. as release of missing person is on the list, someone is taking the heat obviously..
some local and foreign elements that is hurting this cause.
zandeeq jummati dogs, they came out more bitter, they only want tribal people to chants slogans against india and fight for kashmir, not for their rights.
ANP wala leftist secular liberal and afghanistan lover chanting slogan like lar o bar yo afghan here will do no good to our cause but we give the government an opportunity to come harsh and declare them foreign sponsored.
Indian media they are already giving news, like pashtun are marching on capital and want independence from pakistan.
It's like poonjabis trying to enforce Durand line on us.
Get ready for a even bigger tsunami.
Napakistan gaya chowdery saab
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The Pashtuns standing up for their rights is something commendable but the colour that Ashraf Ghani or some of our Afghan brethren are trying to give to this is being rejected by these very protesting Pashtuns.
Pakistani tribesmen call off sit-in, reject Ghani’s word in support of their protest | Arab News PK
"We are patriotic Pakistanis and cannot allow anyone to interfere in our internal issues,” Mehmood Khan Mehsud, a tribal elder who is supporting the protest, told Arab News.
“Ashraf Ghani has tried to incite the tribal people against our government and we condemn it with one voice,” said another tribal leader Samiullah Burki.
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Mehmood Khan Mehsud and other Mehsud organizers of the sit-in have explanations to do. Why there were slogans of "Azadi Azadi Azadi" and "lar o bar yo Afghan" in their sit-in?. Why they did not issue statements like " we are patriot Pakistanis and we wont allow Afghanistan to interfere in our internal affairs" before the call off?. In my opinion it was their lar o bar slogans in the sit-in which gave misleading signals to Afghanistanis. So when their demands are not met they will flirt with Afghanistan , and when due attention is given to them then they will revert to being patriotic Pakistani.Originally posted by toughpashtun View PostThe Pashtuns standing up for their rights is something commendable but the colour that Ashraf Ghani or some of our Afghan brethren are trying to give to this is being rejected by these very protesting Pashtuns.
Pakistani tribesmen call off sit-in, reject Ghani’s word in support of their protest | Arab News PK
"We are patriotic Pakistanis and cannot allow anyone to interfere in our internal issues,” Mehmood Khan Mehsud, a tribal elder who is supporting the protest, told Arab News.
“Ashraf Ghani has tried to incite the tribal people against our government and we condemn it with one voice,” said another tribal leader Samiullah Burki.
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Afghans are still being fooled by these mehmood Khans who use the notion of unifying with Afghanistan as leverage against Paki elites ruling class. They have being using this tactic ever since the creation of Pakistan, "give us some money or we will unify with Afghanistan or we will declare independence and Afghanistan will back us."
This is not the first time Pakis have been shouting "lar o bar yo Afghan" nor will it be the last. The notion isn't real nor genuine , its just a tactic to fool afghans and paki elites. Its also why they support an Afghan gov who is hostile to Pakistan cause as long as a hostile afghan gov exists, their leverage will exist.
The number one reason why Afghans and FATA pashtuns are suffering is because of these mehmood khans, toramanas and other paki Pashtun elites. Its not the panjabis, nor sindhis, nor tajiks. Azmal type Pashtun nationalists comes in at number 2.Last edited by khushal; 02-12-2018, 06:59 PM.
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every pashtun nationalist is better than you the watcher and nonsense talkerOriginally posted by khushal View PostAfghans are still being fooled by these mehmood Khans who use the notion of unifying with Afghanistan as leverage against Paki elites ruling class. They have being using this tactic ever since the creation of Pakistan, "give us some money or we will unify with Afghanistan or we will declare independence and Afghanistan will back us."
This is not the first time Pakis have been shouting "lar o bar yo Afghan" nor will it be the last. The notion isn't real nor authentic, its just a tactic to fool afghans and paki elites. Its also why they support an Afghan gov who is hostile to Pakistan cause as long as a hostile afghan gov exists, their leverage will exist.
The number one reason why Afghans and FATA pashtuns are suffering is because of these mehmood khans, toramanas and other paki Pashtun elites. Its not the panjabis, nor sindhis, nor tajiks. Azmal type Pashtun nationalists comes in at number 2.
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The question is , were all the people present there chanting the lar o bar yo Afghan slogans?Originally posted by Samandri View PostMehmood Khan Mehsud and other Mehsud organizers of the sit-in have explanations to do. Why there were slogans of "Azadi Azadi Azadi" and "lar o bar yo Afghan" in their sit-in?. Why they did not issue statements like " we are patriot Pakistanis and we wont allow Afghanistan to interfere in our internal affairs" before the call off?. In my opinion it was their lar o bar slogans in the sit-in which gave misleading signals to Afghanistanis. So when their demands are not met they will flirt with Afghanistan , and when due attention is given to them then they will revert to being patriotic Pakistani.
Was it pre-planned and did the elders(such as Mehmood Khan Mehsud) organize this?
If yes , then your analysis seems on point.
However from what I've seen in the video , it seemed as if only a small group of men were shouting these slogans , and it was just a momentary thing.
Regardless , one thing which I believe , and you [MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION] being a resident of Pakistan will probably agree , that the vast rather overwhelming majority of Pakistani Pashtuns are very much pro-Pak and anti-Afghan and not convinced by "Loy Afghanistan" or "Loy Pakhtunistan".Whether that is the right attitude is a different story and a different argument , but my observation definitely confirms what I just said about the Pakistaniat of the Pashtuns on the east of the Durand.Last edited by toughpashtun; 02-11-2018, 04:28 AM.
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Mehmood Khan Achakzai bold, dabang Speech to Pashtun Long March for Naqib Mehsood Shaheed - YouTubeOriginally posted by toughpashtun View PostThe question is , were all the people present there chanting the lar o bar yo Afghan slogans?
Was it pre-planned and did the elders(such as Mehmood Khan Mehsud) organize this?
If yes , then your analysis seems on point.
However from what I've seen in the video , it seemed as if only a small group of men were shouting these slogans , and it was just a momentary thing.
Regardless , one thing which I believe , and you [MENTION=18842]Samandri[/MENTION] being a resident of Pakistan will probably agree , that the vast rather overwhelming majority of Pakistani Pashtuns are very much pro-Pak and anti-Afghan and not convinced by "Loy Afghanistan" or "Loy Pakhtunistan".Whether that is the right attitude is a different story and a different argument , but my observation definitely confirms what I just said about the Pakistaniat of the Pashtuns on the east of the Durand.
If you go through speech of Achakzai it was then when slogans of Lar o bar or against Army was raised and the organizer tried to stop them continuously...So its not Mehmood khans has to justify.Desk was available to all show there support...All of the demands were justified..This was another side during live show in between protestors
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Originally posted by khushal View Postwhat is this comment about. someone behind you taking off your pants.
Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."
Originally posted by ذو الفقارdon’t try to be smart.
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