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  • Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
    @khyaal: u ever thot y punjab is so dominating?
    Yeah, they have a representative here in Pashtunforums lol..he might be able to educate us on that.

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    • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
      Again you are after a very moot point when we told you we are not against Islam (at least I can speak for myself). You are just diverting, ducking, picking and choosing lolzz.
      If we are not then why not seek guidance from it? Why do we depend on Pashtunwali to stir our emotions?
      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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      • Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
        @khyal: india was in NAM cz china being a communist nation was unfriendly to india and its internal politics were such that they could not let communism be form of gov. learn urr facts and then try to lecture me.

        And India fought war with china over Kashmir dispute while Pakistan donated Kashmiri's land to infidel and communist china. It means Pakistan had no threat from communism and you falsified your own previous assertion.

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        • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
          If we are not then why not seek guidance from it? Why do we depend on Pashtunwali to stir our emotions?
          People do, but again you are diverting. If this here is your point, best to keep it there.
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          • Originally posted by Azmal View Post
            Salamoona Momeen,
            I sorry i can not comprehend what your trying to say, can you be more clearly? Flood, earth quick and other natural disasters happen around the world, how could that be a punishment or justification to our right of self determination?
            No, wrora, I am saying that our lives are being pounded by nature, we should focus on what matters: our purpose here on earth.
            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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            • @ zarawar: no, it was because vn they were educating themselves by the principles of their "punjabi" leaders, v vere too busy wasting our time.

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              • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                People do, but again you are diverting. If this here is your point, best to keep it there.
                What is with you and the word "diverting?" Last resort word? You already know my stance, I am repeating it from different angles.

                So, what is your approach? How would you deal with the crisis?
                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                  What is with you and the word "diverting?" Last resort word? You already know my stance, I am repeating it from different angles.

                  So, what is your approach? How would you deal with the crisis?
                  Well what else do I have to say...you have been doing this for what 6 pages.
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                  • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                    Well what else do I have to say...you have been doing this for what 6 pages.
                    Don't make up things. You just don't realize that your own approach is contradictory to Islamic teachings.

                    So, what is your idea on how to save the "Pashtun?" I have been asking this for a while now, and you have been diverting by wanting to use the word "diverting."

                    So, what is your answer. I would love to hear you out.
                    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                    • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                      What is with you and the word "diverting?" Last resort word? You already know my stance, I am repeating it from different angles.

                      So, what is your approach? How would you deal with the crisis?

                      Pakistan is the axis of evil and an agent and instrument of infidels and oppressive against the respective nations, this Biritish brainchild must be abolished.

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                      • Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
                        @khyaal: u ever thot y punjab is so dominating?
                        Qazi,
                        I have a question..How could you use Islam to justify pakistan...a country created by hand of Kafir Angreez? Is Pakistan not MeRaaSkhor of Kafir Angreez for muslim Afghanistan and Pashtons? Is the Pakistani establishment not the same mercenaries of the British Raj engaged in violence and betrayal against their own? Did they not serve Colonial Britain to the end, with their reward having been the wholesale theft of other people’s lands? Are they not responsible for dividing tribes and families apart whilst keeping them that way through means that both foster and maintain a state of ignorance and moral depravity in both south and central Asia? Was not Ali Jenah a pork eating, alchol drinker British agent?


                        Below is list history of Pakistan ’s security institutions.

                        ISI:
                        ISI was the brainchild of Australian-born British Army officer, Major General R. Cawthome, then Deputy Chief of Staff in the Pakistan Army.

                        Pakistan Militray:
                        Remnant of British India army, made up of Indian-Muslims whom have faithfully served British for 200 years... Including but not limited against Iraq , Afghanistan , World War 1 and 2.



                        Army:
                        First two Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army where General Sir Frank Messervy (August 15, 1947 - February 10, 1948) General Sir Douglas David Gracey (
                        February 11, 1948 - January 16, 1951 .


                        Pakistan air force.
                        Air force Chiefs
                        Air Vice Marshal Allan Perry-Keane (August 15, 1947 - February 17, 1949)
                        Air Vice Marshal R.L.R. Atcherley (February 18, 1949 - May 6, 1951)
                        Air Vice Marshal L.W. Cannon (May 7, 1951 - June 19, 1955)
                        Air Vice Marshal A.W.B. McDonald (June 20, 1955 - July 22, 1957)

                        Naval Chiefs
                        Vice Admiral J.W. Jefford CB
                        CBE (August 14, 1947 - January 31, 1953)

                        How could you talk about Islam? Seriously how Pakistanis like you can pretend velour in place of what is otherwise a stupendous display of national cowardice is a charm only Pakistanis can lay claim to.
                        ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                        نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                        چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                        نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                        سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                        بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                        چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                        يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                        سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                        په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                        ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                        اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                        • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                          Don't make up things. You just don't that your own approach is contradictory to Islamic teachings.

                          So, what is your idea on how to save the "Pashtun?" I have been asking this for a while now, and you have been diverting by wanting to use the word "diverting."

                          So, what is your answer. I would love to hear you out.
                          This has been discussed at length in other posts, go and search. Don't try and twist it over on me. Like I told you before...if your only point is that we should be closer to God, then you have made it. Oh and I am making things up lolzz...that is rich considering your posts I am taking that as a compliment.
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                          • Originally posted by khyaal View Post
                            Pakistan is the axis of evil and an agent and instrument of infidels and oppressive against the respective nations, this Biritish brainchild must be abolished.
                            And?

                            How would you free the Pashtun?
                            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                            • Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                              This has been discussed at length in other posts, go and search. Don't try and twist it over on me. Like I told you before...if your only point is that we should be closer to God, then you have made it. Oh and I am making things up lolzz...that is rich considering your posts I am taking that as a compliment.
                              The whole time we have been discussing you have NOT given your approach of how to save the Pashtun. You have been crying foul: It is our land, it is our land.

                              So, what is your answer.

                              I am not turning anything against you.
                              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                              • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                                And?

                                How would you free the Pashtun?
                                How would you liberate pakistan? It is impossible in the presence of such a huge army which has become a fatal instrument a mercenaries in the hands of infidels. Pakistan has intrinsic flaws which can't be removed, it is in the very structure and history of this country.

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