Pakistan Census 2017 (pashtun Population)

[Razor]

This Razor fool sure is dull. He's getting rekt so hard I almost feel bad for him.

Funny thing is that he was crying previously about us agreeing with Hindu nationalists regarding the indigenous people of Peshawar Valley being Indian, but now he's regurgitating the Hindu nationalist fantasy that there was no Aryan migration into India. No scholar outside of India treats the "indigenous Aryan theory" as anything but a sad joke, but Dull Razor over here is pushing it because it makes him feel better about his loser existence.

More proof that Blunt Razor's true enemy is reality, not his Indian brothers.

That there is called a logical fallacy.

Came here to help out your distressed friend?
I actually posted plenty of evidence, unlike your South Indian friend.

I didn't say indigenous aryan nor do I believe in the nazi concept. I didn't even imply indigenous people. But for the 6000 year time period that we are dealing with, then yes, the people are native.

The Aryan migration theory has WIDELY been debunked by western scholars. Please post your own evidence that this colonial trash is taken seriously?

[Friends of Baloch]

I am sure you are more knowledgeable than Dr BRIAN HEMPHILL from Anthropology, California State University, Bakersfield. But this is how science works, retard. A random Punjabi tribe were proven, with whatever resources available, to be NATIVE to the Indus valley.

This is sure as hell a lot better than your personal Dravidian-centric theory involving Climate change 3500 years ago, Dalit tracing, British/German biblical timeframe of 6000 years and the so called aryans.

So be honest now. Why are you hellbent on handing over Pashtun/Balochi/Indus valley heritage to Dravidian people? This has been debunked.

Could it possibly be because you are south Indian yourself? Shame you are embarrassed about this. You know, its not against the rules to be Indian on these forums. Nobody is going to scream at you. Come out of the closet already

Whatever resources available to them? lol... Whatever resources available to prove what? All they did was measure the teeth of 176 Dalits from Manshera and compared them to a sample of 21 other people. Is that supposed to be some kind of proof that you arent a Hindu and that your Bundjabi language isnt a Dravidian substratum?

We all know that Bundjabis are natives to India, it is you pakis that are in denial about that. From your own Bundjab government website:

"although originally belonging to the Aryan stock, the people of Punjab are descendants of the Iranians, Turks, Afghans and Arabs who came individually or in groups" - Source: People | Punjab Portal

Maybe the Bundjabi of Rawalpindi and Lahore have different shaped teeth to their Dalit counterparts in Manshera so think they are not native to "the Indus" like those 176 Awans from the study are?

Anyway that is all besides the point, just like your Google search. This is just a desperate attempt to side skip by you that has failed, again.

Finally, dont try to clump Baloch and Pashtuns with your Dravidian "Indus" people. Afghans and Baloch have nothing to do with you Dalit Hindus or your Dravidian river Indus and Dravidian shaped teeth.

[Razor]

Whatever resources available to them to prove what? lol.. All they did was measure the teeth of 176 Dalits from Manshera and compared them to a sample of 21 other people. That supposed to be some kind of proof that you arent a Hindu and that your Bundjabi language isnt a Dravidian substratum?

We all know that Bundjabis are natives to India, it is you pakis that are in denial about that. From your own Bundjab government website:

"although originally belonging to the Aryan stock, the people of Punjab are descendants of the Iranians, Turks, Afghans and Arabs who came individually or in groups" - Source: https://www.punjab.gov.pk/about_punjab_people

Maybe the Bundjabi of Rawalpindi and Lahore have different shaped teeth to their Dalit counterparts in Manshera so think they are not native to "the Indus" like those 176 Awans from the study are?

Anyway that is all besides the point, just like your Google search. This is just a desperate attempt to side skip by you that has failed, again.

Finally, dont try to clump Baloch and Pashtuns with your Dravidian "Indus" people. Afghans and Baloch have nothing to do with you Dalit Hindus or your Dravidian river Indus and Dravidian shaped teeth.

ummm...Yes that literally was the point. Punjabis and Sindhis are native to the Indus Valley. I am glad we are on the same page. If you have a problem with the study, take it up with California State University.

Also, you are the only one claiming Punjabi is a Dravidian language. Pure desperation.

Meanwhile, your crusade to expand and reinvent a heritage/identity for the Dravidian people is failing miserably. Cry more. Your tears give me joy.


Here is something else to cry about: Indus valley far more advanced than Ganges valley and Deccan India. So much for Dravidians taking their skills with them lol.

[Friends of Baloch]

This Razor fool sure is dull. He's getting rekt so hard I almost feel bad for him.

Funny thing is that he was crying previously about us agreeing with Hindu nationalists regarding the indigenous people of Peshawar Valley being Indian, but now he's regurgitating the Hindu nationalist fantasy that there was no Aryan migration into India. No scholar outside of India treats the "indigenous Aryan theory" as anything but a sad joke, but Dull Razor over here is pushing it because it makes him feel better about his loser existence.

More proof that Blunt Razor's true enemy is reality, not his Indian brothers.

Straw man arguments are one of the most typical behavioral traits of Dravidians that i have observed over the many years, regardless of what side of the 70 year old Radcliffe line they fall on.

When i had my first internet experience in the mid/late 1990s there was a software called Compuserve that i used to connect to the internet. It was completely different from web browsers and had chat rooms and forums in-built where you could talk freely to strangers all around the World which was excellent in those days because it was new and nothing like it before. But the even better internet programme AOL came shortly after, so moved to that. Chat rooms and message boards were very, very popular in those days and believe me, the same tired old garbage that pakis and Indians spew online now is exactly the same as it was then. They would infest every country message board with endless insane Indo-Paki sibling rivalry bullsh!t and drive all the other people mad with their clingyness, creepiness, lies, straw man arguments and inferiority complex. And these were just the Paki Dravidians living in America and Europe. In years later when the internet access started coming up in South Asia itself the cess pool of Pako-India online vermin increased manifold, and they all had exactly the same characteristics.

20 years later i can tell you that nothing has changed, perhaps it has got worse because there are now 10s of millions of the skum roaming the net when before it was just the diaspora ones

Pakis and Indians both have the same Dravidian gene and Hindu culture so it is no suprise that they both excell in the same talent for ignorance, straw man and inferiority complex.

I have always said it because it is true, South Asians are the most mentally colonized people i have ever encountered anywhere in the World, and they the biggest intellectual weaklings and losers too. I am talking in general of course, but that generalization is very high.

[Friends of Baloch]

Also, you are the only one claiming Punjabi is a Dravidian language.

Straw man again First you wanted to side step with an excerpt about the teeth shape of some 176 Dalits from Manshera that has nothing to do with anything, now you're flapping your gums about Dravidian farmers on the Indus 5000 years ago which again has nothing to do with anything.

So, back to your Dravidian root. It is not my claim moron, the Dravidian substratum of Bundjabi and Dravidian identity of your "Indus" language before that is what has been concluded by the majority of linguists and historians that have studied and research those languages.

Here, let's remind you again of who exactly some of these scholars are. Note, there are many of them from all over the World, including from your very own Pakiland.


Punjab Notes: Safdar Shah’s Punjabi Grammar and Nuzhat’s stories for children
Mushtaq SoofiApril 21, 2017
Punjab Notes: Safdar Shah’s Punjabi Grammar and Nuzhat’s stories for children - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

Dr Safdar Ali Shah is a poet, author, research scholar and linguist. He has a number of books to his credit some of which are Khabaan di Mutyaar (Punjabi poetry), Quest for Peace, Colonialism, English and Punjabi, The Sikh Heritage of Pakistan (co-author), The Hindu Heritage of Pakistan (co-author), The Buddhist Heritage of Pakistan (co-author) and Sufi Poetry of Pakistan.

Dr Shah currently works at the National University of Sciences and Technology, Islamabad, as Director Publishing and Student Affairs. He has an abiding interest in the Punjabi language and literature. “Punjabi Grammar”, his latest book, published by his university from Islamabad, had added to his already impressive repertoire. It fulfills the requirements of those who are in any way keen to understand and learn Punjabi as everyday speech and vehicle of creative expression. It’s neither the first book on Punjabi grammar nor the last. But it’s highly relevant because it deals with the grammatical structure as well as with the brief history and literature of the language.

“This book not only provides the details on the structure of the language, but also introduces the readers to some of the history and richness of the literature and culture that finds its strength in the ‘folk-character’ of Punjabi to which Dr Shah refers,” writes Lars Dyrud, the Principal Researcher, Sociolinguistic Survey of Punjabi, Pakistan (published 2011), Northland Community and Technical College, Minnesota, USA, in the blurb.

Dr Shah’s book which addresses the contemporary needs of language learning deserves such an accolade. His book seems accessible to both scholar and lay reader. He elucidates the hazy facets of the language structure and related issues in a lucid manner. The book is divided into different chapters in order to deal with diverse aspects of the language such as phonology, morphology and syntax which contain hidden in their innards the baffling secrets of stable but imperceptibly changing dynamics of incredibly complex abstract construct called language.

Language has contradictory nature; it can be as simple as breathing and it can be as difficult as looking for a needle in a haystack. Highly illuminating in fact is Dr Shah’s scholarly and researched introduction which takes a look at the trajectory of Punjab’s civilisation march. In order to understand the origins and development of the Punjabi language, one needs to know the complex evolution of Punjab’s society spanning over thousands of years. Any effort to fully analyse the highly stratified, layered and caste ridden society of the subcontinent will flounder if we ignore deliberately or out of ignorance the open secrets of Harappa civilisation which visibly underpins what is generally referred to as Indian civilisation. It’s in fact more of Pakistan’s heritage than that of contemporary India.

The core of a language cannot be discovered without discovering its speakers, Dr Shah rightly stresses. He explains briefly the ancient history of Punjab in which lie hidden the roots of its language. As to the origin of the Punjabi, three theories are prevalent: 1) it evolved from spoken Sanskrit 2) It sprang from the Vedic language 3) It predates Vedic and classical Sanskrit. It is indigenous language of Harappa and is organically linked to the group of Munda and Dravidian languages.

First two theories have been debunked by serious linguists and historians of the language in the aftermath of ample archeological evidence provided by excavations done on the Harappan sites. The vocabulary that the Punjabi language shares with the Vedic language and classical Sanskrit in no way proves that they gave birth to it because “the difficulty is that Sanskrit does not share a common syntax with these (so-called Indo-Aryan) languages,” writes Dr Shah.

He agrees with Asif Khan, Ainul Haq Faridkoti and others who with lot of painstaking research proved the non-Aryan origins of Punjabi.

Dr Safdar Shah has done a commendable job as his ‘Punjabi Grammar’ not only provides the readers with effective tools for learning Punjabi but also offers a valuable insight into an otherwise umbra filled cultural world of contemporary Punjab.

“Sattay Khairan”, a small book of stories for children, written and illustrated by Nuzhat Abbas, has been published by Punjab Lok Lehar, Sahiwal. Lok Lehar, headed by Qaswar Mubarak Butt, is a cultural body dedicated to promoting the Punjabi language, literature and culture.

Oxford-based Nuzhat Abbas is a well-known figure. She is a writer, vocalist and cultural activist. Her specialisation is child education in mother language. She is actively involved in helping expat parents acquire printed and audio-visual material so that they could teach their children Punjabi at home. It is now universally acknowledged (though not in Pakistan, especially in Punjab) that mother tongue plays a crucial role in developing a child’s communication skills and mental growth at an early age. It shapes his/her identity and creates sense of belonging. The book has an interesting format; the stories in Punjabi are printed in two scripts, Nastaliq (derived from Arabic) and Shahmukhi (derived from Landay) along with their English translation.

Gurmukhi part has been done by Sukhdev Sidhu and English translation is by Pratima Bhatia Mitchell. It caters to a range of diverse needs of Punjabi community. This small lovely book can be a source of delight for our children if we want them to know who we are and what is the wisdom bequeathed to us by our forefathers. Sattay Khairan should be on your child’s table.

Languages of the Proto-Historic Indus Valley

- Dr. Tariq Rahman, Beaconhouse National University, Lahore · School of Liberal Arts and Social Sciences: January 1996

The Language of the Indus Valley

Unfortunately the few symbols on the ceramics of the Kot Dijian culture have not been deciphered. F.A.Durrani, following B.B. Lal and
B.K.Thapar, suggests that these symbols may be the beginning of writing in the Indus Valley.14 There are, however, nearly 4,000
specimens of a script from the Indus Valley Civilization carved on stone, fragments of pottery and other objects.15 They have not been
deciphered satisfactorily but a history of the attempts at such decipherment is available in Asko Parpola's most recent book on the
subject.16 The script, or at least the pictographs, appear to have been uniform but that is not proof that the language too was one. In
fact, as in all parts of the world, the language must have been divided in dialects or area-bound varieties. It is possible, however, that
these were varieties of a language belonging to one language family. The question then is what that language family was?
Beginning from Sir John Marshall, who was the first to suggest that the language of the Indus Civilization was Dravidian 17, most
scholars have taken the 'Dravidian hypothesis' seriously.Piero Meriggi, a scholar who contributed towards the decipherment of the
Hittite hieroglyphs, opined that Brahvi, the Dravidian language spoken even now in part of Balochistan, must be the original Harappan
language 18. However, Brahvi has changed so much and become so Balochified, as Elfenbein points out 19, that it cannot give clear
evidence of any sort in this case. Another scholar, the Spanish Jesuit Henry Heras, 'turned more than 1,800 Indus texts into "Proto-
Dravidian" sentences' 20 but his decipherment and linguistic theories were not accepted. Later Soviet scholars headed by Yurij V.
Knorozov, carried on a very rigorous computer analysis of sign distribution in the Indus texts coming to the conclusion that it belonged
to the Dravidian language family 21. However, Kamil Zvelebil, also a Russian scholar came to the conclusion that 'the Dravidian affinity
of the Proto-Indian language remains only a very attractive and quite plausible hypothesis.22 Indeed, the plausibility of the hypothesis
is such that many people, such as Iravatham Mahadevan, a scholar of old Tamil epigraphy, have used it to offer readings of the Indus
script 23. F.C.Southworth and D.Mc Alpin used the Dravidian roots to reconstruct the language of the Indus Valley.24 Walter A.
Fairservis, another specialist in this area, stated with considerable certainty that 'the Harappan language was basically an early
Dravidian language'.25 Even Parpola, after much careful and detailed sifting of the evidence, opines 'that the Harappan language is
most likely to have belonged to the Dravidian family'.26

The Dravidian Influence on Pakistani Languages

If the Harrapan language family was Dravidian, then the first languages of the area of present-day Pakistan was not Indo-Aryan but
Dravidian. Such a claim has been made in an extreme and unsubstantiated form by Ainul Haq Faridkoti, a Pakistani philologist, in his
several publications.27 Other scholars have used the theory of linguistic 'transfer' or 'interference' to explain the presence of Dravidian
elements in the languages of present-day Pakistan which are generally said to be the daughters of Sanskrit, an Indo-Aryan language.
'Transfer' or 'interference' refers to the influence of the rules of one's first language on another language one learns later. Thus, if
Pakistanis learn English, they speak it more or less according to the rules of their first language. As they get more and more exposed
to the rules of English, they will speak like native speakers. However, some characteristics of the mother tongue of the speaker will
remain which is what we call a Punjabi, Pashto, Sindhi or Urdu accent. 28
Sometimes an old language dies out and all its speakers learn a new language. But the way they use this language is influenced by
the rules of their old language. The new language, then, has a 'substratum' of the old language. If we apply this theory to old Indo-Aryan
we can hypothesize that the Harappan language, which was probably Dravidian, influenced old Aryan. Thus Pakistani languages have
a Dravidian substratum. The evidence for the presence of this substratum, according to Bertil Tikkanen, is the presence of retroflex
consonants which do not exist in Iranian or European members of the Indo-European family of languages.29 Another clue may be the
existence of consonantal clusters in the beginning and end of words in Iranian, European , Dardic languages and even Sanskrit. Thus
Sanskrit has /p r e m/ which means love. But Hindi-Urdu speakers call it /p i r e m/. They insert the vowel /i/ between the two word-
initial consonants /p/ and /r/ because their own rules of pronunciation (called phonological rules) do not allow word-initial consonantal
clusters. Similarly, speakers of Urdu, Punjabi and Sindhi separate consonants in word such as 'school', 'stool' and 'small' etc.30 It may
be that this splitting of consonantal clusters comes into some of the languages of South Asia from languages older than Sanskrit. This,
however, is a suggestion by the present author which needs much research by linguists for substantiation.

The Language of Gandhara

According to A.H.Dani 'the new cultural trends of the centuries were identified in the swat, Dir, and Peshawar valleys, and because of its original location in that area, it was termed "Gandhara Grave Culture"'. 45 This region was inhabited by the Dasas who worshipped the snake and must have spoken the Indus Valley's Dravidian languages(s) before the Aryans established their supremacy here. 46 By the first millennium B.C, however, 'the Aryanization of most of the population of the northern areas of the subcontinent was complete'. 47 The elite used Sanskrit as we have seen but the common people used what scholars have called 'North-Western Prakrit' or the 'language of Gandhara'. 48 This language, opines Gankovsky, was probably made up of elements from the languages of the 'local pre-Indo-European population and Indo-Aryan tribes, as well as the Dardic and East-Iranian ethnic elements'. 49

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Languages of the Proto-Historic Indus Valley. Available from: ResearchGate | Share and discover research [accessed Oct 07 2017].

[Razor]

Straw man arguments are one of the most typical behavioral traits of Dravidians that i have observed over the many years, regardless of what side of the 70 year old Radcliffe line they fall on.

When i had my first internet experience in the mid/late 1990s there was a software called Compuserve that i used to connect to the internet. It was completely different from web browsers and had chat rooms and forums in-built where you could talk freely to strangers all around the World which was excellent in those days because it was new and nothing like it before. But the even better internet programme AOL came shortly after, so moved to that. Chat rooms and message boards were very, very popular in those days and believe me, the same tired old garbage that pakis and Indians spew online now is exactly the same as it was then. They would infest every country message board with endless insane Indo-Paki sibling rivalry bullsh!t and drive all the other people mad with their clingyness, creepiness, lies, straw man arguments and inferiority complex. And these were just the Paki Dravidians living in America and Europe. In years later when the internet access started coming up in South Asia itself the cess pool of Pako-India online vermin increased manifold, and they all had exactly the same characteristics.

20 years later i can tell you that nothing has changed, perhaps it has got worse because there are now 10s of millions of the skum roaming the net when before it was just the diaspora ones

I love how you try to sound all authentic and composed, moments after ranting about "black@ss Dravidian pakiland".

All you managed to prove is that you have been obsessed with Pakistanis for the last 20 years. You are not "running into" us. You are actively looking for Pakistani topics where you can promote and expand the Dravidian identity.
Everyone will laugh at you for suggesting that Punjabis/Sindhis are not native to the Indus valley. Good luck with your pathetic cause.

Colonial mindset is dead. Maybe you should let go Pajeet.

[Friends of Baloch]

Everyone will laugh at you for suggesting that Punjabis/Sindhis are not native to the Indus valley.

?

No. That's what your Bundjab government website and paki school curriculum claim, not me.

Straw man again. Just what i expected.

You're a typical slippery Indian, but you have failed to grease your way out of this one.

I am now bored of your mental derangement and snivelling.

If you straw man and side step again, you will find this a very lonely place with nothing but visual echos.

And i predict that is what is now in store for you here

10... 9... 8...

[Razor]

?

No. That's what your Bundjab government website and paki school curriculum claim, not me.

Straw man again. Just what i expected.

You're a typical slippery Indian, but you have failed to grease your way out of this one.

I am now bored of your mental derangement and snivelling.

If you straw man and side step again, you will find this a very lonely place with nothing but visual echos.

And i predict that is what is now in store for you here

10... 9... 8...

Doesn't matter what you call it. It's still the Aryan migration theory. It's still colonial era bull****. Its debunked. Live with it Pajeet.

You have avoided the question of your own ethnicity all this time. Easy to bash others when you are hiding like a complete reject.

But sure. Please do fuk off I will totally miss you.

[ذو الفقار]

This is just a slight digression, but one thing I’ve noticed about Baloch is they have very thick beards. Almost all of them can grow beard in that area under the bottom lip to the chin. This seems to be a rare condition. Among my family we have very sparse facial hair. Another thing about Baloch people, like Pashtuns, is they seem to have very rough wrinkly skin, and not the smooth soft skin of us Indo-Aryans. I think it is because traditionally we are more pastoral people who drink more milk since we have more cattle. Our favorite traditional drink is Lhasi. I admire much of Baloch culture, I like their unique turban style and their baggy shelwars, and I love their proud curled up mustaches too (as long as it is not too overgrown). Although I am a Punjabi with roots in Majha Punjab before partition, my family settled in Multan area where there are lots of Baloch people. I live here in Canada, most of us South Asians here are Majha Punjabis and very few Baloch and Sindhis seem to live abroad so very few opportunities to interact with them.

[Friends of Baloch]

This is just a slight digression, but one thing I’ve noticed about Baloch is they have very thick beards. Almost all of them can grow beard in that area under the bottom lip to the chin. This seems to be a rare condition. Among my family we have very sparse facial hair. Another thing about Baloch people, like Pashtuns, is they seem to have very rough wrinkly skin, and not the smooth soft skin of us Indo-Aryans. I think it is because traditionally we are more pastoral people who drink more milk since we have more cattle. Our favorite traditional drink is Lhasi. I admire much of Baloch culture, I like their unique turban style and their baggy shelwars, and I love their proud curled up mustaches too (as long as it is not too overgrown). Although I am a Punjabi with roots in Majha Punjab before partition, my family settled in Multan area where there are lots of Baloch people. I live here in Canada, most of us South Asians here are Majha Punjabis and very few Baloch and Sindhis seem to live abroad so very few opportunities to interact with them.

Balochistan is dirt poor and most of the population is suffering terrible poverty. The most impoverished parts of Balochistan are probably among the worst places in the World. Malnutrition is high in Balochistan and education and literacy is very low. It is the same overall in Afghanistan. Men aging faster in Afghanistan and Balochistan is due to poverty, not because people dont drink enough milk, lol. Just compare how Turkmen and Uzbeks in Afghanistan typically age to those in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan as another example of the poverty factor.

And Afghans and Baloch being hairier and having thicker facial hair than Indians would be down to genetics that are much more likely shaped by differences in environmental factors and population between the Baloch plateau and Hindu Kush with a tropical region like the Indian subcontinent than the ancestral milk consumption of people, or lack of it.

[Markhor]

Balochistan is dirt poor and most of the population is suffering terrible poverty. The most impoverished parts of Balochistan are probably among the worst places in the World. Malnutrition is high in Balochistan and education and literacy is very low. It is the same overall in Afghanistan. Men aging faster in Afghanistan and Balochistan is due to poverty, not because people dont drink enough milk, lol. Just compare how Turkmen and Uzbeks in Afghanistan typically age to those in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan as another example of the poverty factor.

And Afghans and Baloch being hairier and having thicker facial hair than Indians would be down to genetics that are much more likely shaped by differences in environmental factors and population between the Baloch plateau and Hindu Kush with a tropical region like the Indian subcontinent than the ancestral milk consumption of people, or lack of it.

Now be a good boy and tell us your race? If you are ashamed of it then I suggest you take those '' Dravidian '' Theories of yours and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

[Peacelove]

Now be a good boy and tell us your race? If you are ashamed of it then I suggest you take those '' Dravidian '' Theories of yours and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

I think he will speak in balochi now so the smoke will be clear...He is a true Baloch ..He can tell about his tribe and sub-tribe to avoid confusion

[Elite Pakhtun]

Similarly some parts of what is now Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, particularly Peshwar and the lowland areas were not originally Pashtun lands. Peshawar was orginally an Indian city centuries before these areas were eventually settled by Pashtun tribes and the local Indian poulations diminshed/killed or were expelled from the land and replaced by Afghans. The remnants of the original Indian population of these areas that are now Pashtuns lands are Hindkowans/Gujjars etc

No it wasn't. When was it that this displacement in Peshawar occurred? Same question for other cities in NWFP.

[Razor]

No it wasn't. When was it that this displacement in Peshawar occurred? Same question for other cities in NWFP.

Its called the Aryan migration theory. Now debunked because it's ridiculous.

4000 BC the world was created
2500 BC The biblical flood happened
Then Dravidians ruled a lot of Asia
1500 BC "Aryans" invaded and took over, gradually, which is probably the displacement he is talking about.

Europeans needed "to be responsible" for all civilisation and it needed to neatly fit with the Biblical dates too. Hindu nationalists use the same theory to pretend that Dravidians are the original heirs of Indus valley, Afghan and Balochistan.

To modernise the theory, they removed the "creation of the world" at 4000 BC and Noahs flood at 2500 BC, but kept the rest...

[HindustanTimes]

Deluded pakis think they are different from Indians. lol

ask any non-South Asian person, and they will say Paki and Indians are the same ****. lol