Pashtun Disease

[Firdousi]

Find it hilarious. Probably the most uneducated teenage kid in this forum calling others ''racist'' and ''retarded''. What next? a dog telling people not to bark, lol.

Anyone with the slightest amount of self respect and without insecurity, would most likely represent himself. Only someone with identity crisis and insecurity would have someone or something represent him. An ethnicity is part of your identity not vice versa.

I knew you would come with that but aint working with me. Vast majority of Islamic societies are highly collective. The only civilization which is 100% individualist is the Western civilization. In Afghanistan, ethnicity, religion, family and community play a huge role in society and politics. Its not limited to the individual sphere. You re not just Muslim.. you also actively participate in Islamic society and you deal with other people according Islamic values. Same thing applies to ethnicity and family.

We are not Westerners no matter how many years or decades we spend in the West. You are 24/7 bragging and looking down on other members for not being ware of "Afghanistan´s ground realities" yet you are failing to grasp this quite obvious thing. SO now go and blow yourself up.

[Shapur]

Z

Isn´t those sand ******s and mother****ers the ones who are insecure who are forced to create a fake identity, a fake history, fake myths and legends, who are forced to rig several elections, those who are sleeping under American Russian Pakistani Iranian and Arab d***ks for centuries? Come on guys, the fake state building and the fake history forging and your fake ''national unity'' is the result of an insecure life. Not Hazaras, Uzbeks and Tajiks are aliens in this region calld Afghanistan Pakistan. Tajiks and Panjabis, so Sindhis have culturally more in common than Pashtuns with these groups although both nations are devided by Pashtuns as a ethnic barrier. Which Pashtun have admitted they have committed crimes, they support terrorism for getting power, using Islam for political and ethnical goals, using drugs and wife trading etc and yet talking about ghairat namoos and nang? Can someone tell me which words were used by ''Pashtu'' for these words before this language was f** from back and front by Tajiki/Persian? Nang Namoos and Ghairat got introduced to Pashtu and Pashtuns yet Pashtuns never have understood itn and believe when being biolo gical condoms for foreigners they have ghairat nang and namoos .. INSECURITY! Non-Pashtuns know, incl. Panjabis, who they are and what they are and what they want. They do not need to talk 24/7 hours about nang namoos ghairat, Pashtun here and there, are these tribes Pashtuns or these tribes, how many Pashtuns speak Tajiki and how many don´t .... Seriously? A bunch of IDless people with no future ..this IS INSECURITY!!!... the sooner we get devided the better it is for Panjabis, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras and Baluchis.

You need to take a chill pill or you will be shown the door.

We have real legends like Sher Shah Suri, Lodhis, khushal khan etc, no need for fake ones

What makes you think "Nang, Namos" etc are farsi words? Pashto is an Iranian language just like Kurdish, farsi, balochi etc so there are some words which are shared between all these languages because they all descend from the same ancestral language. Stop spewing nonesense, you are not a linguist to claim such thing. Your claims might seem credible among your circle of friends but hold no value in an itellectual discussion.

Farsi actually is much more dilutted by Arabic than Pashto especially Iranian Farsi, just as an example you call minstry of internal affairs "wizarat e omoor e dakhla". All these words are Arabic while in Pashto we say "koraneyo charo wizarat". Many words that Pashto and Farsi share are actually Arabic and there are some non Arabic words which are common to both Farsi and Pashto like "Baran" "Baam" "Sar" etc because both languages belong to the same language family like Spanish and Italian.

Many Pashtuns speak Farsi because Farsi has been the lingua franca of the region just like English is now the international language. Your ancestors adopted Farsi and forgot their own labguages like Bactrian, Soghdian, Parthian etc, at least Pashtuns speak their ancestral language unlike you Tajiks who adopted Persian.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

No offense bro but tajik are born to remain slaves of the surrounding superior groups e.g Pashtuns or Persians.

[Karachi]

No offense bro but tajik are born to remain slaves of the surrounding superior groups e.g Pashtuns or Persians.

Paki pashtuns like you are slaves of us Indics, whats the difference?

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Z

You need to take a chill pill or you will be shown the door.

We have real legends like Sher Shah Suri, Lodhis, khushal khan etc, no need for fake ones

What makes you think "Nang, Namos" etc are farsi words? Pashto is an Iranian language just like Kurdish, farsi, balochi etc so there are some words which are shared between all these languages because they all descend from the same ancestral language. Stop spewing nonesense, you are not a linguist to claim such thing. Your claims might seem credible among your circle of friends but hold no value in an itellectual discussion.

Farsi actually is much more dilutted by Arabic than Pashto especially Iranian Farsi, just as an example you call minstry of internal affairs "wizarat e omoor e dakhla". All these words are Arabic while in Pashto we say "koraneyo charo wizarat". Many words that Pashto and Farsi share are actually Arabic and there are some non Arabic words which are common to both Farsi and Pashto like "Baran" "Baam" "Sar" etc because both languages belong to the same language family like Spanish and Italian.

Many Pashtuns speak Farsi because Farsi has been the lingua franca of the region just like English is now the international language. Your ancestors adopted Farsi and forgot their own labguages like Bactrian, Soghdian, Parthian etc, at least Pashtuns speak their ancestral language unlike you Tajiks who adopted Persian.

Let´s start with your name - Shapoor! Where is the Pashtun ghairat namoos and nang calling yourself after Tajik mythological figures like Shapoor, Afrasiab, Bahram and and and and at the same time hating everything non-Pashtun? You should take a genetical test if your really are of Pashtun father...

Shir Shah Suri was not a Pashtun. He was a Tajik whose grandfather married ''in the lands of Afghans the daughter of an Afghan chief'' ... and the Lodhis were Turks who became Hindus and afterwards converted to Islam, Ibn Batuta correctly describes them as a branch of the Khalaj Turks of whom a part are wandering in the northern parts of centrak asia, another part in zamindawar and the Ludhi branch existing in India but hated by the full-blood Turks because the Lodhis lost their idiom ... What or who are Pashtuns or Afghans? Modern Afghans are a mixture of Turks, Arabs, Mongols, Panjabis, Gujjaris, Kakkars, Gypsies, Jews, Iranians, Nuristanis, Dardi people and some other bunch of people who politically during one stage in history came together and formed that confederation what we call today Pashtuns. Dude, stop comparing an apple with a tomatoe! If you do not know anything do not come up with self-pleasing claims but ask ...Words like Namoos (pers.), Nang (pers.) and Ghairat (arab.) are of Persian and Arab origin, of NEW PERSIAN origin, from Parthian namash and Sogdian namngo. If these words existed in Pashtu, please, bring us the proof and their original forms. Your weak argumentation of ''common ancestral language'' is again a self-pleasment and nothing else. The ergative elements in Pashtu clearly point a non-Aryan and a non-Iranian origin as well in additional to Turkic Arabic Mongol Jat ... elements and influence. Isn´t this plausible for you that all languages around Pashtu had influenced it but Pashtu never influenced its neighbours? Hard to understand this? Modern Pashtu is the work of Pashtu Tolana, a linguistical fabrication institution or do you mean shirdaghblay has somewhere in Pashtu any root? You heard about the infamous and fake Pata Khazana and how they hard tried to **** out new words with no logic? And even then two Tajik academics created for Pashtuns words like Poohantun, Poohanzai etc that today have created for ourself a big conflict (what an ironie!). You know that Shir Darwaza, Pir Roshan and Akhund Darwaza were not Pashtuns but Ismaili 12-Imamite Shiites and of eastern-Tajiki speaking people? Dude, Tajiki speaking people created and reformed for Arabs their alphabet and grammer and now you come up with your ''devisive Pashtu''. How many books do you have? How many words at all have Pashtu? Have you ever taken a dictionary into your hand and looked up for the majority of the Pashtu words which origin they have? Listen dude, I do not want to take this too deep. I have other important things to do but why should I take the inbreed of a Mongol-Indian and Turk-Indian serious, someone whose tribal suffix is zai, originating from Turkic -zoy and Mongol -Xxi with the tribal suffix -Khil, from Middle Age Khalaj dialect Oglu/ogul / and ancient -akul? Khushal Khan Khattak was not an Afghan in modern sense since he did lived in Panjab and he is your Atal (Turkic word) and your ane (Turkic word) praises him as well your cousin Baryali and Zmarai and your cousine Toorpikay ... all Turks. What makes you believe your Pashtu or Pashtuns are ''cleaner''? Behind every myth there is a truth to be find. Shah Hussein was not just a tale....''intellectual discussion''? .. YOUR KIND OF 'INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSION''? Tell me what is the native Pashtu word for flower, not GUL, ABSOLUTELY NOT SINCE IT IS New-Persian .. please... which part of Pashtun culture is ''Iranic''? If that is the case why Pashtun culture is not related with any cultures around them and believe me, do not come up with ''Atan'' and claim it that Sindhis and Baloochis have this as well .. yeah they do, but Jews, Africans, Bushmen and Greecs and and and have ''circle movings'' as well. Unlike Pashtu culture or Pashtu language, Tajiki (Dari) has to those foreign ''Arabic'' words equivalent Persian/Tajiki words and suprisingly not Arabic considered words are Arabic but in fact originating from Middle-Persian and Parthian like maghz for brain which is taken from Parthian and Palawi Maghzgan or Ferdows taken from Persian Pardis, Par, Paraday and and and or the word din for belief which originates from Persian, Sanscrit and Buddhis Dan, den and dana but heyyyyy you super linguist, you are the expert and soooooo pure is your Pashtu and culture.

And if you do not know the origin of Tajiks then better shup up. Tajiks like Iranians and Pashtuns, Germans, Australians, Americans are the result of several ''tribes''. There was no such a tribe called ''Persian''. The ''Persians'' were the Aspianis, the Medes who settled in Parsa (modern Fars) which the Greec used the name to call them. When people today talk about Persian then they do not mean a tribe but a CIVILISATION AND A GROUP OF PEOPLE SHARING THE SAME HISTORY MYTHS CULTURE AND AND AND .. Or why do you consider today Mongol-Dardic inbreeds like Zadrans, Mangals and Zazais (jadaran, Monghooli and Jaji, their original non-Pashtun Mongol names) as Pashtuns? As I mentioned, this is not the topic here and I have no interest to go deep into this ****. As an Industrial Engineer i am looking to support my people with my skills and knowledge to beat our enemy one day to the ground for all times so our children can have a bright future without suicide, thugs, thiefs and cultureless, shameless creatures who are not tired creating day by day a fake history and identity for themself. And if you do not believe me about your Poshto and Poshto and Poshton and Poshton, you can ask ''Ustad'' Nashenas or read his work on Pashtu and Pashtuns and compare Nashnas works under Tajik culture and influence with any Pakistani Pathan figure under Pakistani or Dera Esmaili Khan influence .. two different level...earth and heaven


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Ps: if you are a Pakistani Pathan then plz better not start any discussion with me about ''Pokhto'' because Pokhto is even more pathetic and to be feeld pitty for it than for Pashtu...

Good Night

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

No offense bro but tajik are born to remain slaves of the surrounding superior groups e.g Pashtuns or Persians.

lol pooty boy, our boys are killing on daily basis hundreds of Pakistani terrorist, ...you wanna come to Afghanistan and experience live the massacre that happens on you? Otherwise, shut up, tailed Dal Khoor. At least the Pashtuns of Afghanistan, if you win them, they become honest and respectful but not you stinky half-monkies. You would even explode your own mothers and sisters for some rupees, you prostitites! Leave your cave and stand to go on to legs, you filth. Pashtun elitists fear Tajiks for a good reasons and therefore they are like you, world´s number one prostitutes but unfortunately, they destroy their own Pashtun people, specially those who are not fascists, terrorists, those who are friendly and honest, accepting and tolerating everyone but unfortunately, their number is small compared to the first group and it is really not a thing of education...it´s a question of mentality and stupidity

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[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Tajiks are going no where. They will continue to serve our Bar Pashtun brothers.

Tajiks never served, you monkey. During all times Tajiks were the power holder behind the throne. The Pashtun who was presented as ''king'' or president, installed by your foreign masters, were just puppets and we took always our full influence and elements on them. Can you please name one Pashtun government, except Mullah Omar´s and Amanullah (who later fled and died in a Italian brothel fully drunken...)? Who the fu.ck Pashtuns are? Even the savage Arabs who are by far more civilisied and educated were reliant on Tajiks. The Mongols, the Turks and now you come up with Pashtuns? What is the difference of Karzai, Ghani, Abdali, Abdurrahman Khan....'s government, all of them Pashtun ''kings'' or presidents. Where and when did Pashtuns profited from them? Who the fu.ck are Bars? You have not the intelligence nor the skills to understand management. You even fail in the field of microeconomics. Just compare your seven Pashtun provinces with the 14 Tajik provinces. Are you kidding me? Compare your Pakhtunkhwa provinces and districts with those small 27 non-Pashtun provinces of Afghanistan... The elitist Pashtuns can may buy their ''PhD''s and diplomas but their skill and knowledge is zero and you fu.cked up your own provinces and now you want to fuc.k up non-Pashtun provinces as well. For you, if Pashtuns don´t have the power no one should have the power and for this purpose you are even ready to sell your mother to Arabs and Pakis. Don´t forget who invited 120.000 foreigners (Arabs, Pakis, Chechenis...) to Afghanistan to fight against non-Pashtuns for power, fooling those *******s that you Kaafran fighting a war against non-Muslims and you pay till today for it.

[Samandri]

@Ghilamjam-i-Kabul, the historical role of Tajik peasants, clerics and artisans in various empires was faithfully serving their overlords with servitude. They were no doubt useful subjects of Turks, Mughals, Bahmanis, Afghans etc. I am complimenting your people Ghilam Jam . In my opinion Tajiks should be in their natural role of servitude. You are not getting away from our Pashtun brothers on other side of Durand, they love you and want you people to serve them more.

[Dost]

Afghanistan belongs to Pashtuns. Think about it. Your Tajiks have Tajikistan, your Uzbeks have Uzbekistan, your Turkmanis have Turkmenistan, you Dari speaking nationalists have Iran, the only people that don't have a home are Hazaras. They will form their own identity and communities in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

It probably sounds funny coming from me, the Punjabi ISI agent. Pashtuns are the true inhabitants of Afghanistan, even though their base is in Pakistan Suleiman Mountains.


Pashtun nationalists love talking ****, but we Pakistanis will never back stab them for anyone else. We support them 100%, even If they want to fight with us. We always put them in their place, but we don't ever forget our ride or die Muslim brothers.

I'd rather take the side of a Pashtun ready to shoot me in the back, than a weak Tajik that changes his loyalty based on his self interests. With a Pashtun, you can expect them to shoot you If they say so, but you Tajiks are never honest. Pakistanis always support their Pashtun brothers, no matter what.

I say this as a Punjabi, so you don't need to think I am some Pashtun pretending to further an agenda. We love Pashtun brothers, cuz they some real niggaz. Not like the rest of you wanna be girl-Iranian **** boys.


Peace.

[Al-Afghani]

Tajiks aren't an enlightened people, if you were thinking that. In all the centuries of living together with Pashtuns they have become just as radical and extremist.

[Al-Afghani]

Afghanistan belongs to Pashtuns. Think about it. Your Tajiks have Tajikistan, your Uzbeks have Uzbekistan, your Turkmanis have Turkmenistan, you Dari speaking nationalists have Iran, the only people that don't have a home are Hazaras. They will form their own identity and communities in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

It probably sounds funny coming from me, the Punjabi ISI agent. Pashtuns are the true inhabitants of Afghanistan, even though their base is in Pakistan Suleiman Mountains.


Pashtun nationalists love talking ****, but we Pakistanis will never back stab them for anyone else. We support them 100%, even If they want to fight with us. We always put them in their place, but we don't ever forget our ride or die Muslim brothers.

I'd rather take the side of a Pashtun ready to shoot me in the back, than a weak Tajik that changes his loyalty based on his self interests. With a Pashtun, you can expect them to shoot you If they say so, but you Tajiks are never honest. Pakistanis always support their Pashtun brothers, no matter what.

I say this as a Punjabi, so you don't need to think I am some Pashtun pretending to further an agenda. We love Pashtun brothers, cuz they some real niggaz. Not like the rest of you wanna be girl-Iranian **** boys.


Peace.

Even though you got banned dozen times you still come back here to kiss Pashtun ass.

[dindi]

Afghanistan belongs to Pashtuns. Think about it. Your Tajiks have Tajikistan, your Uzbeks have Uzbekistan, your Turkmanis have Turkmenistan, you Dari speaking nationalists have Iran, the only people that don't have a home are Hazaras. They will form their own identity and communities in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

It probably sounds funny coming from me, the Punjabi ISI agent. Pashtuns are the true inhabitants of Afghanistan, even though their base is in Pakistan Suleiman Mountains.


Pashtun nationalists love talking ****, but we Pakistanis will never back stab them for anyone else. We support them 100%, even If they want to fight with us. We always put them in their place, but we don't ever forget our ride or die Muslim brothers.

I'd rather take the side of a Pashtun ready to shoot me in the back, than a weak Tajik that changes his loyalty based on his self interests. With a Pashtun, you can expect them to shoot you If they say so, but you Tajiks are never honest. Pakistanis always support their Pashtun brothers, no matter what.

I say this as a Punjabi, so you don't need to think I am some Pashtun pretending to further an agenda. We love Pashtun brothers, cuz they some real niggaz. Not like the rest of you wanna be girl-Iranian **** boys.


Peace.

Dhalkhor porki you bomb terrorist pathans in to oblivion and at the same time want tajiks to leave their own country because of name? I though porkis were more intelligent but guess not.

[SavageCurry]

Afghanistan belongs to Pashtuns. Think about it. Your Tajiks have Tajikistan, your Uzbeks have Uzbekistan, your Turkmanis have Turkmenistan, you Dari speaking nationalists have Iran, the only people that don't have a home are Hazaras. They will form their own identity and communities in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

It probably sounds funny coming from me, the Punjabi ISI agent. Pashtuns are the true inhabitants of Afghanistan, even though their base is in Pakistan Suleiman Mountains.


Pashtun nationalists love talking ****, but we Pakistanis will never back stab them for anyone else. We support them 100%, even If they want to fight with us. We always put them in their place, but we don't ever forget our ride or die Muslim brothers.

I'd rather take the side of a Pashtun ready to shoot me in the back, than a weak Tajik that changes his loyalty based on his self interests. With a Pashtun, you can expect them to shoot you If they say so, but you Tajiks are never honest. Pakistanis always support their Pashtun brothers, no matter what.

I say this as a Punjabi, so you don't need to think I am some Pashtun pretending to further an agenda. We love Pashtun brothers, cuz they some real niggaz. Not like the rest of you wanna be girl-Iranian **** boys.


Peace.

Poon-jabi ass kisser at full work. lol

[DSM0305]

I knew you would come with that but aint working with me. Vast majority of Islamic societies are highly collective. The only civilization which is 100% individualist is the Western civilization. In Afghanistan, ethnicity, religion, family and community play a huge role in society and politics. Its not limited to the individual sphere. You re not just Muslim.. you also actively participate in Islamic society and you deal with other people according Islamic values. Same thing applies to ethnicity and family.

We are not Westerners no matter how many years or decades we spend in the West. You are 24/7 bragging and looking down on other members for not being ware of "Afghanistan´s ground realities" yet you are failing to grasp this quite obvious thing. SO now go and blow yourself up.

I read a rapport a few years ago. It was talking about the human intelligence and how people with lower intelligence are often/always simplify the world by putting it in a category. It referred to the people who look at the world through one lens. Like looking at everything from only ethnic perspective. The reason for that was, that people with lower intelligence cannot grasp the complexity of the world and therefor have the need to simplify it.

We can agree that we Afghans or Muslims are more family oriented, but it is as far our agreement goes. The action of your brother, does not effect you. Let say your brother committed a crime, this does not mean you have to get punished as well. We as human being in general have all different opinion and thought process. We are individuals and this cannot be changed. Having more family oriented culture, does not mean you're a not an individual. Every single person is representing no one but himself. Family, ethnicity, tribe, country etc is all part of ones identity, its not the identity.

Imagine someone asked you who represent you Muslims. Would you have answered Taliban, Daesh, Saudi kings, Iranian mullah? lol. I hope no one ask you this question, because you would humiliate all Muslim.

It the same if I asked you, who represent you Tajiks. Abdullah x2, Atta, Saleh, Stalin, lol. You need to wake up and smell the coffee. The world isn't the way you're portraying it to be. The way you see it, is nothing but a very simplified social construction you have created for yourself.

[Karachi]

Lol Stupid Firdousi _cuked from every corner