Pashtun Disease

[Firdousi]

Its has become now obvious and serious to me that Afghanistan is a broken and unfixable country. No matter how much we try to deny this but opinions are becoming facts. Pashtun terrorists are butchering people systematically on daily basis all over and in every corner in the country, it amuse me how Pashtuns refuse to accept or acknowledge that there is a huge disease in their way of life. That terrorism has "hijacked" their way of life. Instead that Pashtuns seems quite comfortable blaming everyone else but themselves. Now, after butchering 200 civilians in Kabul in a matter of three days, even "educated" Pashtuns living abroad have started blaming other people for the crimes committed by their fellow brothers in race.

For this reason, just like a arm becomes gangrenous and doctors decide to separate the lost and incurable part from the rest of the body, I believe its time to carry out a similar process in Afghanistan and split the country. Pashtun disease is gangrena. In order to do so, Non Pashtun militias need to be rearmed. A coup is 100% necessary. Tajik militias along the national army and USA airpower need to carpet bomb and obliterate every single Pashtun terrorist village in the north and in the west of the country who refuses to put their guns down or harbors Talib terrorists. Just like the iraqi army is doing against ISIS terrorists in Iraq. After that, cede southern and eastern provinces to the Taliban. They will be a good buffer-zone between us and Porkistan (at the same time, Dalkhoristan will definitely have her "strategic depth") and raise a wall a la Trump from Zaranj to Ghazni.

This solution is a win-win for everyone: for non Pashtuns who will get rid from Pashtun terrorism. For Pashtun terorists who will finally have a land which can be ruled according their barbaric tribal laws. For Pakistan who will achieve its strategic depth. For the USA it will be a way to save face. And the entire region will have peace for some decades.

And this doesn't mean that all Pashtuns are bad and all Tajiks good. This doesn't mean that Pashtuns themselves are not victims of terrorism or that there are historical events behind our current state of misery. But as Porkies use to say "enough is enough" lol

[DSM0305]

Do you know what is a bigger disease? Insecurity hahahaha

If citizens of a country haven't a spine to defend its nation and respect its diversity, its indeed need to break up.

When the people of a country haven't the brain capacity to not resort to sectarianism. Yes, the country indeed need to break up.

There is no rocket science in all this. You don't have national unity after 40+ years of war, you don't have national identity, then you indeed don't have a future.

[Firdousi]

Do you know what is a bigger disease? Insecurity hahahaha

If citizens of a country haven't a spine to defend its nation and respect its diversity, its indeed need to break up.

When the people of a country haven't the brain capacity to not resort to sectarianism. Yes, the country indeed need to break up.

There is no rocket science in all this. You don't have national unity after 40+ years of war, you don't have national identity, then you indeed don't have a future.

Brother, all this words didnt come out "from my mouth" out of insecurity, but anger and frustration. Last night I have been told that my cousin got wounded in the blast in Kabul. You cant believe how angry I am right now. Why we have to endure all this pain and misery for the sake of a failed and fake state like Afghansitan? Why we have to die for Pashtuns? We have nothing in common. Our current relationship is based on death, war and hatred. I am so fed up, so tired, that I believe its time to let Afghanistan go.

As I have pointed out previously, this doesnt mean we Tajiks are perfect. Most of Tajiks are uneducated and stuck in a feudal mentality. I am quite aware of our shortcomings and flaws. But at least we are not killing each other and other tribes like Pashtuns are doing. Only Pashtuns are behind such acts. Only Pashtuns refuse to accept Afghansitan´s diversity. Only Pashtuns believe that this land belong to them and every other ethnicity is an invader or foreginer (despite the fact thet most of ethnic groups came to this land many centuries before Pashtuns).

So you tell me guys, why Afghanistan cant break up? What has this country that so many of you cant accept this fact that this country didnt work, doesnt work and will never work? If partition can bring peace, armony and tolerance, why cant we just split Afghanistan up? I know many other problems will show up once this happens, just like in Korea or India, but at least we will have peace. I am sure about this.

For God sake just let put this country out of misery. Afghansitan is not worth all this pain.

[DSM0305]

The problem is that you're under the assumption that I want Afghanistan to be intact. I am tired of Farswians resorting to sectarianism. Instead of saying Taliban, the likes of you say Pashtuns. When the immoral action of Jamiat is questioned, all of sudden the likes of you consider it an attack on Tajiks. I do not wish to live with people whose empirical view cannot go beyond ethnicity. So I indeed agree that it is high time the country split.
Living with people who cannot differentiate between groups and ethnicity is indeed a nightmare. Living with people who cannot unite under the umbrella of the nation, indeed that country should be split.

[Firdousi]

The problem is that you're under the assumption that I want Afghanistan to be intact. I am tired of Farswians resorting to sectarianism. Instead of saying Taliban, the likes of you say Pashtuns. When the immoral action of Jamiat is questioned, all of sudden the likes of you consider it an attack on Tajiks. I do not wish to live with people whose empirical view cannot go beyond ethnicity. So I indeed agree that it is high time the country split.
Living with people who cannot differentiate between groups and ethnicity is indeed a nightmare. Living with people who cannot unite under the umbrella of the nation, indeed that country should be split.

Then you tell us guys WHO ARE THE F UCKING REAL PASHTUNS?? Who? Taliban? Ghani? Persian speaker Pashuns like Daud or Zahir Shah? Hekmatyar? Who? Even here in Europe, most of Pashtuns i have come across were a bunch of r etarded fascists. So if your educated Pashtuns are like this, what should we expect from those uneducated ones?

Yeah, its a win-win situation. You get rid of our "sectarianism" and we get rid of your barbarism. Still we win.

[DSM0305]

Find it hilarious. Probably the most uneducated teenage kid in this forum calling others ''racist'' and ''retarded''. What next? a dog telling people not to bark, lol.

Anyone with the slightest amount of self respect and without insecurity, would most likely represent himself. Only someone with identity crisis and insecurity would have someone or something represent him. An ethnicity is part of your identity not vice versa.

[Elite Pakhtun]

Guys guys guys... you don't need to be THAT upset. Kabul is only 25% Pashtun. So it's only 25% tragic.

[dindi]

Solutions are simple.

1. You carpter bomb pashtun villages like porkis did to control terrorism.
2. If this solution isn't ideal then divide country on basis of majority ethnic areas. If some tajiks live in majority pashtun areas then they can move back and vice versa.

It worked well for India who got rid of terrorist Porkistan and developed. While porkistan remained backward because of terrorists. Getting sick of bomb blasts in Kabul killing innocent people.

My advice to porkis out there, give up pashtun majority areas if you want permanent peace and development. Also give baloch want they want which is freedom.

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Isn´t those sand ******s and mother****ers the ones who are insecure who are forced to create a fake identity, a fake history, fake myths and legends, who are forced to rig several elections, those who are sleeping under American Russian Pakistani Iranian and Arab d***ks for centuries? Come on guys, the fake state building and the fake history forging and your fake ''national unity'' is the result of an insecure life. Not Hazaras, Uzbeks and Tajiks are aliens in this region calld Afghanistan Pakistan. Tajiks and Panjabis, so Sindhis have culturally more in common than Pashtuns with these groups although both nations are devided by Pashtuns as a ethnic barrier. Which Pashtun have admitted they have committed crimes, they support terrorism for getting power, using Islam for political and ethnical goals, using drugs and wife trading etc and yet talking about ghairat namoos and nang? Can someone tell me which words were used by ''Pashtu'' for these words before this language was f** from back and front by Tajiki/Persian? Nang Namoos and Ghairat got introduced to Pashtu and Pashtuns yet Pashtuns never have understood itn and believe when being biological condoms for foreigners they have ghairat nang and namoos .. INSECURITY! Non-Pashtuns know, incl. Panjabis, who they are and what they are and what they want. They do not need to talk 24/7 hours about nang namoos ghairat, Pashtun here and there, are these tribes Pashtuns or these tribes, how many Pashtuns speak Tajiki and how many don´t .... Seriously? A bunch of IDless people with no future ..this IS INSECURITY!!!... the sooner we get devided the better it is for Panjabis, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras and Baluchis.

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Guys guys guys... you don't need to be THAT upset. Kabul is only 25% Pashtun. So it's only 25% tragic.

substract -7% of Helmandi and Kandahari war refugees and you get the Naqlin/Pashtun population who are living in Kabul province and within the city. After 2001 Pashtuns were even droven out from those region where they once dominated by settling more and more Waziristanis and Paktiawals. I know for some Pashtunists it is a wet dream to ''own'' Kabul and add it to Peshawar, Kandahar ...

The political and ethnic solution is Afghanistan is that Pashtuns raise their voice against their criminal, terrorist supporting, ethno-fascist, foreign agent .... leaders and politicians, if you want to have a future in the next 15 years with drink water, a gate to economic centers and and and but unfortunately no voice we got and injustice against non-Pashtuns increased. Pashtuns don´t have much time. it seems the Russians are clear in their stance to devide Afghanistan as well. They already announced that Afghanistan future will be a devided region. Please, these time leave your commis and other socialist fascists and murders and asslickers at home in their caves if you really are interested in a co-existing otherwise the big wave is rolling already

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

There is no Pashtun disease. In fact, Pashtuns are far more superior to Tajiks.

Imagine a Pashtun saying all the stupid stuff you say here in PF elsewhere in a Tajik Forum. We tolerate your filth because we are greater than you. You just prove your inferiority by talking rubbish during the month of Ramadan while being a 'guest' here.

You are doing a disservice to your fellow Tajiks by representing the worst of all Tajiks here.

Have some decency and behave like a normal human being.

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

There is no Pashtun disease. In fact, Pashtuns are far more superior to Tajiks.

Imagine a Pashtun saying all the stupid stuff you say here in PF elsewhere in a Tajik Forum. We tolerate your filth because we are greater than you. You just prove your inferiority by talking rubbish during the month of Ramadan while being a 'guest' here.

You are doing a disservice to your fellow Tajiks by representing the worst of all Tajiks here.

Have some decency and behave like a normal human being.

Therefore you are international terrorist nr. 1? The first guys who get offered a job by Pakis and Arabs to do some suicide operations are Pashtuns, indeed, you must be superior ....with your odd and backward language, a society addicted highly on drugs, living in dusts for weeks without washing yourself, selling and trading women and children, ... you are absolutely superiour to us, at least in this regard! I celebrate you!!!

[Friends of Baloch]

So you tell me guys, why Afghanistan cant break up? What has this country that so many of you cant accept this fact that this country didnt work, doesnt work and will never work? If partition can bring peace, armony and tolerance, why cant we just split Afghanistan up? I know many other problems will show up once this happens, just like in Korea or India, but at least we will have peace. I am sure about this.

I dont think that Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks and Turkmens would be able to forge a viable state either. The ethnic politics would continue, just in a different way, much like South Sudan after Sudan's "partition" of 2011.

Plus where do you 'draw the lines'? The World today does not support mass displacement of peoples and population exchanges. This is why Anatolian Turk settlers will never be asked to leave northern Cyprus, Jewish settlers will never be told to leave the West Bank, Serbia will never be allowed to reacquire Serb majority parts of Kosovo etc etc International community will not support a partition that would imply a relocation of Pashtuns from west and north to a new Pashtun state in the south. And if there is no relocation, then what would you get out of a split up?

The surrounding countries also do not want to absorb neigbouring parts of Afghanistan that they share ethnicity with. Only Pakiland dreams of this because everything about them is fake, unreal, deluded. The other countries are sober enough to realize that they can not afford to absorb and administer new lands and populations, and they also do not want to inherit problems of Afghanistan.

The current set-up clearly is not working, i agree with you, and needs to be changed. There is no easy solution. It will continue to be a long and difficult challenge for all. There is actually no answer to Afghanistan's current failed state condition.

[Friends of Baloch]

Non-Pashtuns know, incl. Panjabis, who they are and what they are and what they want.

Lol, Punjabis know who they are? They pretend they are Pashtuns...

Even on their own government website they tell lies and say that people of Punjab are 'descended from Afghans'

[Firdousi]

I dont think that Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks and Turkmens would be able to forge a viable state either. The ethnic politics would continue, just in a different way, much like South Sudan after Sudan's "partition" of 2011.

Plus where do you 'draw the lines'? The World today does not support mass displacement of peoples and population exchanges. This is why Anatolian Turk settlers will never be asked to leave northern Cyprus, Jewish settlers will never be told to leave the West Bank, Serbia will never be allowed to reacquire Serb majority parts of Kosovo etc etc International community will not support a partition that would imply a relocation of Pashtuns from west and north to a new Pashtun state in the south. And if there is no relocation, then what would you get out of a split up?

The surrounding countries also do not want to absorb neigbouring parts of Afghanistan that they share ethnicity with. Only Pakiland dreams of this because everything about them is fake, unreal, deluded. The other countries are sober enough to realize that they can not afford to absorb and administer new lands and populations, and they also do not want to inherit problems of Afghanistan.

The current set-up clearly is not working, i agree with you, and needs to be changed. There is no easy solution. It will continue to be a long and difficult challenge for all. There is actually no answer to Afghanistan's current failed state condition.

The world doesn't give a c rap anymore brother. Just in case you didn't realize ethnic cleansing are happening on a regular basis in Syria and Iraq and nobody cares. Bashar al Assad is systematically butchered and killed in the most vicious ways Sunni civilians.. still the world has taken his side. The international system is falling apart. The world is becoming an anarchic place again. I believe partition benefits also our neighbors: Iran will have an ally ready to keep at bay Sunni extremism and also willing to give her pass to China and former soviet republics. CAR´s will have a buffer zone between them and Taliban. China will have a relatively stable land in order to pave roads and other infraestructures for their OBOR project. Its a win win for everyone.

You made good points though. I do agree with you that many more problems will show up after partition but I also believe we will manage to sort them out in a better way than now in Afghanistan. By creating a federal system and giving authonomy to the Hazara and Uzbek regions would be a huge step forward. Western nation-state/nationalism won't work in an Islamic land like Afghanistan but at least we need to try. You want freedom for your people. I want peace for mine.