Why Afghans hate Pakistan?(a logical discussion)

[Khostai]

Yes pakistan invite USSR to attack Afghanistan communist government. You are very right.
Shall we start who interfere in neighbors first ? start from 1947 it was afghan government meddling in pakistan affairs and supporting arm insurgencies and doing blasts in quetta and KP.
Everybody is responsible for a mess in Afghanistan except afghans..

What you say does not make any sense and are fabricated propaganda that you pakis like to belive.
Afghanistan only wanted its land back, if you pakis sticked to your punjab there would not be this mess.
By the way Pakis pay also a big price and your country is in state of emergency for decades, with weak economy and people who die from starvation meanwhile you spend billions on useless nuclear wapons and military who does more damage than protecting you.

[Friends of Baloch]

What you say does not make any sense and are fabricated propaganda that you pakis like to belive.
Afghanistan only wanted its land back, if you pakis sticked to your punjab there would not be this mess.
By the way Pakis pay also a big price and your country is in state of emergency for decades, with weak economy and people who die from starvation meanwhile you spend billions on useless nuclear wapons and military who does more damage than protecting you.

You are right. The British tried but could not conquer the whole of Afghanistan, so they settled for occupying a small part of it in the southeast and making a pact with Iran to invade Balochistan and split the territory between Iran and the British empire. These are the facts.

Neither Afghanistan or Balochistan are natural constituents of a fabricated place called Pakiland, a country invented by the British to be a separate homeland for the "Muslims of India".

This fake country was designed to be a failure from the day it was drawn on a map by Cyril Radcliffe.

A so-called "Islamic" country that has borders and towns named after their British conquerors and a pagan Moon flag that has nothing to do with either Islam or their Indian culture, lol. Who are these Dalits trying to fool? Pakiland has no identity. It is the twin evil with Israel, both birthed from Western colonialism, neither capable of ever living in peace internally or with neighbours whose land each is illegally squatting on.

[Peacelove]

What you say does not make any sense and are fabricated propaganda that you pakis like to belive.
Afghanistan only wanted its land back, if you pakis sticked to your punjab there would not be this mess.
By the way Pakis pay also a big price and your country is in state of emergency for decades, with weak economy and people who die from starvation meanwhile you spend billions on useless nuclear wapons and military who does more damage than protecting you.

"Its Land "..The same Land you sell it to Britishers or Gora Kafir to save your KABUL..We will never accept the throne of KABULIS again..Its not punjabis ..it is us you have to fight have you ever tried to cross the durand line again....Our Military is not useless like your ANA who can't stay without US and NATO support..The day US leave again Taliban with a rusky rifles and simple shoes will beat your might AFGHAN force..We have beaten TTP and they are hiding like rats in mess of Afghanistan..It is again us who fight with them.. We will never allow you to accomplish your hegemony on the name of lar aw bar afghan.. You don't love us ..You just love land because we have developed it more than your kabul..First keep your land intact and provide peace to people instead taking about our Land.
If you want to go back in history then you can't full stop that history starts from some particular date.Kindly return to KHOROOSAN first to its original owner then..
emergency for decades, with weak economy and people who die from starvationWhat a joke an AFGHAN taunting Pakistan..I am sure you must have spend time in same pakistan before moving to abroad or might be still in Pakistan.
Last but not the least we better live with these Punjabis then to egoisitc, racist, criminals, warlords,opium infected leader of Kabul..No body will rule us from Kabul..
We are far better in every aspect with Pakistan..

[Peacelove]

Afghanistan did try to instigate separatist movements but they were all in vain. Their best attempt to conquer Pakhtunkhwa and FATA saw them getting routed by tribals of Waziristan. In essence, the most Afghan of all the Afghans, defeated the Afghans to stay with Pakistan. Tells you a lot about greater Afghanistan.

Afgahns have delusions.. They are mentally living in 18th or 17th century..Thats what i am trying to said..Its not We its They who started all this mess and then putting blame on others.. They don't accept there responsibilities.Make pashtun ruler some tajik will revolt make tajik some hazar will revolt then Uzbek there racism will just bite them.They need to control there issues instead of blaming Pakistn all time. The problem with them they think we are commodity sell one day and then buy it another day.They are just jealous nothing else.
There ego hurts there false pride jolted when they see pakistan progressing and same pakhtuns here.
They just want us to fight with Pakistan on the name of Punjabis Punjabis..The more they speak of this the more we got suspected.. Even ANP does not speak this.. See PTI in KP and check khattak comments about afghanistan you will come to know the people perceptions.Did you remeber when one aghan crickter in last ramadan living and staying in pakistan during night match raised afghanistan flag and bad mouth paksitan..People beat him **** out of him and then organizers come to save him..Afghans rulers have no Gahirat now..Karzai said ""we want Islamabad to understand and recognize that Afghanistan has not accepted the line as border since the beginning" Good Luck then Afghanistan.."Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. As long as Afghanistan doesn’t recognise the Durand border agreement, its state apparatus will naturally have to keep kicking the dead horse of Pashtunistan and create trouble for Pakistan, and Pakistan will naturally reply .
I hate these KABUL leader they are making life difficult for pashtuns in aghanistan also.
The day Afghanistan accept Pakistan sovereignty the same will be reciprocate.. They started this and they have to end it.. Afghanistan should accept the border and leave false hops or beating dead horse again again..The ROOT cause off all this problem is started by Afghanistan

[~Zarlakhta~]

It's because of the desire to control Afghanistan's foreign policy.

Honestly, we didn't have to conquer Afghanistan to make their lives miserable. We did it simply by pinning Afghans against each other... in the process we made their lives more miserable than anyone else has in the last few hundred years.

I honestly feel that Afghanistan would've done well under Soviet rule, as economic growth in the country was at its highest back then. Culturally speaking, Kabul wasn't that far off from being Atheist/Communist, people were really liberal back then.

At the end of the day, Saudi, U.S. and Pakistan brought misery to the Afghan people, so it's no surprise they hate all of us combined. The difference is Pakistan still wants a say in how the government in Kabul should behave. We want to own the Afghans as our second-tier slaves, because we think all Afghans are dumb, low-IQ and a bunch of opium addicted peasants who don't know how to take care of themselves. Punjabis think they can civilise the Afghans, being a much more urbanised and educated race. Unfortunately, that won't work.

This has got to be the sanest reply I've ever read by a Pakistani. Well done for being so well informed and I only wish those delusional Pakistanis who believe we live on their mercy get the same sense knocked into their heads.

[~Zarlakhta~]

Peacelove, lemme send a long rant to you as you need it and if you're to learn from the silliness even slightest then you should know that you're as delusional about Afghans and Afghanistan as some Afghans are about Pakistan. Let me make it clear that it A, the leader that sold Pakhtunkhwa was ours AND your leaders at the time too. Calling us sellers doesn't take away the fact that you were actually sold by your own leaders, too. By calling it a regime of Kabul doesn't take away the fact Abdur Rahman was a Pashtun and should have protected ENTIRE of Loy Afghanistan at the time. And he didn't create the treaty with British to save Kabul, but to save Herat from Iranian/Russian meddling.

Second, Pakistan was more of a movement for Indic Pakistanis than Pashtuns. I'm sure you're aware of the protests following by the imprisonment that happened in Pakhtunkhwa where not even 10% of the province qualified to vote? And the aftermath of the referendum? Besides that, when Zahir Shah's forces tried to meddle with Pakhtunkhwa and were ousted by the tribals, Zahir Shah pretty much got his answers and was the one opposing Daud Khan's campaign of greater Pakhtunistan. Daud Khan also, once in leadership, moved into partnership with Western powers to modernise Afghanistan. The mistake he made there was being indecisive between Russia and USA for a long amount of time.

Even Najibullah didn't follow on any Loy Afghanistan project, but he DID propose imminent Afghan nationality to all Pakistani Pashtuns so they can move freely between both countries with dual nationalities. As for the military presence, current day ANA doesn't hold the strength of yesteryear's Mujahideen. Mujahideen were fighting from the mountains and as much you'd like to deny it now, you now this very well that in your very same Pakistan those very same Mujahideen were seen as the unbeatable force of Islam that would conquer any enemy. You can boost about supporting them with weapons as much as like (through American money) but you know that money and weapon are not the sole way to success to defeat your enemy. Same wise, NATO might not have been able to train ANA properly, but even Pakistani army is strong due to Western money, weapon and probably even establishment. Before talking about anything of warthorn Afghanistan being foreign run, don't forget Pakistan is one of those countries which huge part of economy runs on aid.

By the way, when did any Tajik, Uzbek or Hazara leader even revolt against Pashtun presidency or kingdom throughout our history? And when did a Pashtun revolt just because a Tajik is in power? Listen to Porus on this one, Pakistani government HAS ever since fall of Soviets try to throw the ethnic minorities on Pashtuns and it worked. It worked when Hekmatyar's tanks raided Kabul all the way from Pakhtunkhwa, it worked non-Pashtun members of Taliban maligned Uzbek and Tajik farmers in North up to the extend they felt harassed and cheated by Pashtuns for allowing this (if you don't believe any Pakistani to be involved in Taliban movement back in nineties then search for Ahmad Shah Massoud's captives), and the ethnic tension escalated to next level ever since.

TTP got defeated because they were always under the government's control. Havoc wa created in Pakhtunkhwa for a few years, a few more billions of Dollars poured into Islamabad, and once the sight of aid got reduced, so this all of a sudden the militancy and all of a sudden problem of every scenario in Pakistan became the illiterate tribal and backward Afghan refugees: same refugees that a few decades back were warriors of Islam in the same land. In case you didn't know, about 90% of Pakistanis believe that of Soviets hadn't been stopped by the Afghans then the matter would have caused bloodbath in Pakistan. If you also are among those 90% then I don't get how allowing millions of Afghan refugees into the country (in turn of billions of Dollars; and stronger Western ties) is a bigger favour than Soviets from being prevented into Pakistan? Or are you one of those delusional who believes even if Pakistan hadn't been able to win any war with its other neighbour, even though it took them centuries to get rid of British slavery, were all of a sudden mighty enough to fight a war on behalf of Afghanistan?

Having said all of that, I do NOT believe in Loy Afghanistan but do believe in better ties among Pashtuns on both sides of the border. This could be through any link that comes our way. I acknowledge the Afghan Kingdom started off its ties with Pakistan on a shady note, and I get the revolt against the forces or the kingdom back in the days. I also acknowledge the fact that the Afghan government is biggest and foremost responsible for today's mess, for lack of understanding of situations in the country, and for lack of protection of ordinary citizens. These are things 90% of Afghans acknowledge, and those 90% are INSIDE Afghanistan or elsewhere and not those you speak to online. But the thread maker asked why there's hostile feeling towards Pakistanis, and what I initially states and what Porus states are the reasons. You cannot sugarcoat it with 'we've allowed millions of refugees', or 'we've helped oust the Soviets', or 'India is using Afghans against us' (biggest and most delusional myth), or 'Afghans are namak-haram' (don't understand what we as country owe you anyway).

I've been living in Afghanistan in '80's and '90's, the general public did NOT hate Pakistanis. Even of our politicians Pakistan wasn't their concern. But yes, the double policy of Pakistani government WAS an issue. Taliban were pretty much puppets or Pakistani government, they ran the country exactly as your government wanted them to be. No India, USA or even Israel was to be even seen in Afghanistan. Taliban was a tool to provide better ties with Pakistan and better picture of Pakistanis, but not only did they fail miserably but instilled hate left right and centre which shouldn't have happened. Average Afghans do acknowledge the state they're in, same wise average Pakistanis also need to accept that not everything happening in your country is a conspiracy theory instilled by foreigners. End of.

[~Zarlakhta~]

I am not saying that Taliban regime was stable.. It was stated in a context that even before taliban there was a civil war in afghanistan and pakistan was not the reason for that

You haven't read ANYTHING about Rabbani's presidency, Hekmatyar's conversation with Massoud, and the fall of Najibullah, have you? And I'm not talking about what you've seen on Pakistani media on those events; by actual facts of what happened and how Pakistani government was involved? Videos? Links? Books? If not then I'll happily provide you the sources; sources documented by different countries so you don't call them biased. But only if you're willing to learn and not throw further assumptions.

[~Zarlakhta~]

New Logical Question
The majority of this hate seems to center around Loy Afghanistan/Pashtunistan
the durrand line and that kind of stuff.
So yes, Pashtun Nationalists have big reasons to hate Pakistan.....

However,

Do Non-Pashtunist Afghans have a logical reason to hate Pakistan?
Because non-Pashtuns were againts the idea of loy Pashtunistan in the first place so Pakistan sort of did the non-Pashtuns of AFG a favor...
considering that many Afghans i meet are becoming Persianized,

i mean, the Non-Pashtuns of Afg wanted to seperate, right?

Illogical question and wrong assumption. There are no Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan movements ongoing in Afghanistan. Yes, recognition of Durrand Line is a topic but the increase or decrease of current land. Not every Pashtun in Afghanistan is a Pashtun nationalist, and Pashtun nationalists have decreased with time and have become Afghan nationalists so no, the fact Loy Afghanistan isn't happening is NOT main reason of wary of Afghan Pashtuns.

Non-Pashtuns have never protested for a separate state, nor has there ever been a movement for it. There was a small noise about changing name back to Khorasan but the issue has become so small now that those Khorasani chanters (mostly living in West) haven't shown their faces in public for at least 6 years now. The non-Pashtuns have issues with how Pakistani government handled Taliban regime in Afghanistan and because they believe the government is still trying to impose a backward regime on our country. There were also Pakistanis among Taliban back in nineties most of whom killed by Dostum in Dashte Laili. That played another factor.

And what do you mean by Pashtuns becoming Persianized? Afghanistan is a Pashtun term. Our national anthem is in Pashtu. Our national dress is Kuchi dress. Our national dance is Attan. The military oath is first taken in Pashtu. Institute, banks, parliaments and other official premises are run on Pashtu writings and vocabulary. We've Pashtunised the country more than us losing it to Tajiks. If you consider speaking Farsi as being fully Persianised then entire of Pakistan is Persianised-Arabised as Urdu itself breathes from Arabic/Farsi words and vocabulary.

And after centuries, Pashtuns and Tajiks have mingled so much and to an extend that I personally cannot see the difference between them until they speak or tell me where they're from. That isn't called Persianised or Pashtunised, but integrated both ways.

[Shapur]

Afghanistan did try to instigate separatist movements but they were all in vain. Their best attempt to conquer Pakhtunkhwa and FATA saw them getting routed by tribals of Waziristan. In essence, the most Afghan of all the Afghans, defeated the Afghans to stay with Pakistan. Tells you a lot about greater Afghanistan.

what? When did this conquest of Pakhtunkhwa and FATA happen?

If you are referring the to the 1961 Bajaur incursions then read this thread, there was no conquest but it was a dispute between the ruler of Dir which was an independent princely state back then and the rulers of Bajaur. Afghanistan side wanted to help the ruler of Dir to declare independence but the ruler of Bajaur was bribed and supported by Pakistani army to fight the lashkar sent from the Afghan side to support the ruler of Dir in case of violence.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/pashtun-history-/49630-declassified-documents-pakistan-afghanistan-conflict-bajaur.html

[Peacelove]

Peacelove, lemme send a long rant to you as you need it and if you're to learn from the silliness even slightest then you should know that you're as delusional about Afghans and Afghanistan as some Afghans are about Pakistan. Let me make it clear that it A, the leader that sold Pakhtunkhwa was ours AND your leaders at the time too. Calling us sellers doesn't take away the fact that you were actually sold by your own leaders, too. By calling it a regime of Kabul doesn't take away the fact Abdur Rahman was a Pashtun and should have protected ENTIRE of Loy Afghanistan at the time. And he didn't create the treaty with British to save Kabul, but to save Herat from Iranian/Russian meddling.

Second, Pakistan was more of a movement for Indic Pakistanis than Pashtuns. I'm sure you're aware of the protests following by the imprisonment that happened in Pakhtunkhwa where not even 10% of the province qualified to vote? And the aftermath of the referendum? Besides that, when Zahir Shah's forces tried to meddle with Pakhtunkhwa and were ousted by the tribals, Zahir Shah pretty much got his answers and was the one opposing Daud Khan's campaign of greater Pakhtunistan. Daud Khan also, once in leadership, moved into partnership with Western powers to modernise Afghanistan. The mistake he made there was being indecisive between Russia and USA for a long amount of time.

Even Najibullah didn't follow on any Loy Afghanistan project, but he DID propose imminent Afghan nationality to all Pakistani Pashtuns so they can move freely between both countries with dual nationalities. As for the military presence, current day ANA doesn't hold the strength of yesteryear's Mujahideen. Mujahideen were fighting from the mountains and as much you'd like to deny it now, you now this very well that in your very same Pakistan those very same Mujahideen were seen as the unbeatable force of Islam that would conquer any enemy. You can boost about supporting them with weapons as much as like (through American money) but you know that money and weapon are not the sole way to success to defeat your enemy. Same wise, NATO might not have been able to train ANA properly, but even Pakistani army is strong due to Western money, weapon and probably even establishment. Before talking about anything of warthorn Afghanistan being foreign run, don't forget Pakistan is one of those countries which huge part of economy runs on aid.

By the way, when did any Tajik, Uzbek or Hazara leader even revolt against Pashtun presidency or kingdom throughout our history? And when did a Pashtun revolt just because a Tajik is in power? Listen to Porus on this one, Pakistani government HAS ever since fall of Soviets try to throw the ethnic minorities on Pashtuns and it worked. It worked when Hekmatyar's tanks raided Kabul all the way from Pakhtunkhwa, it worked non-Pashtun members of Taliban maligned Uzbek and Tajik farmers in North up to the extend they felt harassed and cheated by Pashtuns for allowing this (if you don't believe any Pakistani to be involved in Taliban movement back in nineties then search for Ahmad Shah Massoud's captives), and the ethnic tension escalated to next level ever since.

TTP got defeated because they were always under the government's control. Havoc wa created in Pakhtunkhwa for a few years, a few more billions of Dollars poured into Islamabad, and once the sight of aid got reduced, so this all of a sudden the militancy and all of a sudden problem of every scenario in Pakistan became the illiterate tribal and backward Afghan refugees: same refugees that a few decades back were warriors of Islam in the same land. In case you didn't know, about 90% of Pakistanis believe that of Soviets hadn't been stopped by the Afghans then the matter would have caused bloodbath in Pakistan. If you also are among those 90% then I don't get how allowing millions of Afghan refugees into the country (in turn of billions of Dollars; and stronger Western ties) is a bigger favour than Soviets from being prevented into Pakistan? Or are you one of those delusional who believes even if Pakistan hadn't been able to win any war with its other neighbour, even though it took them centuries to get rid of British slavery, were all of a sudden mighty enough to fight a war on behalf of Afghanistan?

Having said all of that, I do NOT believe in Loy Afghanistan but do believe in better ties among Pashtuns on both sides of the border. This could be through any link that comes our way. I acknowledge the Afghan Kingdom started off its ties with Pakistan on a shady note, and I get the revolt against the forces or the kingdom back in the days. I also acknowledge the fact that the Afghan government is biggest and foremost responsible for today's mess, for lack of understanding of situations in the country, and for lack of protection of ordinary citizens. These are things 90% of Afghans acknowledge, and those 90% are INSIDE Afghanistan or elsewhere and not those you speak to online. But the thread maker asked why there's hostile feeling towards Pakistanis, and what I initially states and what Porus states are the reasons. You cannot sugarcoat it with 'we've allowed millions of refugees', or 'we've helped oust the Soviets', or 'India is using Afghans against us' (biggest and most delusional myth), or 'Afghans are namak-haram' (don't understand what we as country owe you anyway).

I've been living in Afghanistan in '80's and '90's, the general public did NOT hate Pakistanis. Even of our politicians Pakistan wasn't their concern. But yes, the double policy of Pakistani government WAS an issue. Taliban were pretty much puppets or Pakistani government, they ran the country exactly as your government wanted them to be. No India, USA or even Israel was to be even seen in Afghanistan. Taliban was a tool to provide better ties with Pakistan and better picture of Pakistanis, but not only did they fail miserably but instilled hate left right and centre which shouldn't have happened. Average Afghans do acknowledge the state they're in, same wise average Pakistanis also need to accept that not everything happening in your country is a conspiracy theory instilled by foreigners. End of.

Ok pakistan is the only evil and cause of what ever happening in Afghanistan..Afghans can never do anything wrong they are spirtual people who can't commit any mistake..Invade pakistan and clear all this mess.Regarding Pakistan is for whom we people in KP 1000 times better then we would have been in aghanistan.So thank you what just matter to us is only good life, better education better healthcare and overall balanced life that we are getting in Pakistan so we will remain loyal to pakistan and will fight and die for this country for this simple reason.
I wish IK a PUUUNJAAABI countinue to rule us to save us from Asfandyarwali and achakzai type nationlists pakthun who can just raise slogans and done 0 on ground .Period

PS: I love pashtuns in afghanistan and want them to join pakistan and pakistan to provide nationality to them.I never call some one Namak........ type words..Rizq is from GOD and i am not entitiled to use bad words for any one either afghan, pujabi, sindhi or baloch as all are muslim..For me i am First Muslim 2) Pakistani 3) Pakhtun..I will always follow this order and will never put my ethnicity above any of the 2..So i will always put interest of Pakistan first rather then Afghanistan..

[Peacelove]

You haven't read ANYTHING about Rabbani's presidency, Hekmatyar's conversation with Massoud, and the fall of Najibullah, have you? And I'm not talking about what you've seen on Pakistani media on those events; by actual facts of what happened and how Pakistani government was involved? Videos? Links? Books? If not then I'll happily provide you the sources; sources documented by different countries so you don't call them biased. But only if you're willing to learn and not throw further assumptions.

Yes please why not i am open to read.But i will always defend/ fight and live for my country that is called Pakistan

[~Zarlakhta~]

Yes please why not i am open to read.But i will always defend/ fight and live for my country that is called Pakistan

If you were actually open minded enough and open to learn, then you would have learned from my previous comment. I didn't blame Pakistan for Afghanistan's entire misery, I just answered the thread maker's question and I can back my claims up with sources and links. If any part of my previous comment is wrong, feel free to do the same if you think I can learn from you instead.

As for where Pashtuns are better off, that wasn't even the purpose of my comments. I personally believe had Pashtuns never been separated by Abdur Rahman, we would have been best of than in any of our current nations. But that's a separate discussion altogether, which is futile in today's date and age. And you might not call us namak haram, but a huge majority of Pakistanis do and their back up reasons are truly laughable. Having said, my interaction with Pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa has been very good and they're not as ignorant on facts, figures, history and politics as are rest of Pakistan.

I'll provide you with the sources around Rabbani regime and Taliban's inquest of Panjsher. Lemme fish the links and sources out, so you can decide their credibilities, so it'll take me some time.

[toughpashtun]

If you were actually open minded enough and open to learn, then you would have learned from my previous comment. I didn't blame Pakistan for Afghanistan's entire misery, I just answered the thread maker's question and I can back my claims up with sources and links. If any part of my previous comment is wrong, feel free to do the same if you think I can learn from you instead.

As for where Pashtuns are better off, that wasn't even the purpose of my comments. I personally believe had Pashtuns never been separated by Abdur Rahman, we would have been best of than in any of our current nations. But that's a separate discussion altogether, which is futile in today's date and age. And you might not call us namak haram, but a huge majority of Pakistanis do and their back up reasons are truly laughable. Having said, my interaction with Pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa has been very good and they're not as ignorant on facts, figures, history and politics as are rest of Pakistan.


I'll provide you with the sources around Rabbani regime and Taliban's inquest of Panjsher. Lemme fish the links and sources out, so you can decide their credibilities, so it'll take me some time.

Please do provide the links and sources, on this thread. I'll be very interested to read them.

[Porus]

what? When did this conquest of Pakhtunkhwa and FATA happen?

If you are referring the to the 1961 Bajaur incursions then read this thread, there was no conquest but it was a dispute between the ruler of Dir which was an independent princely state back then and the rulers of Bajaur. Afghanistan side wanted to help the ruler of Dir to declare independence but the ruler of Bajaur was bribed and supported by Pakistani army to fight the lashkar sent from the Afghan side to support the ruler of Dir in case of violence.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/pashtun...ct-bajaur.html

Referring to the incursions in 1950s by Daud Khan's government. Tribal Lashkars crossing the border into Quetta and the tribal areas.

Pashtunistan

In the summer of 1950, armed clashes occured between Afghanistan and Pakistan in the neighborhood of Gwazha, north of Quetta. On September 30, 1950, a more serious incident took place when a large Afghan force (commanded by a brigadier and supported by artillery and machine guns,) invaded Pakistan in Dobandi area, about 30 miles north east of Chaman. In the initial thrust they cleared a border security post of section strength comprising twelve persons and occupied the Bogra Pass(about four miles inside the Pakistan territory.) Their objective, it seemed, was to cut off the strategic Chaman-Quetta railway line passing through the Khojak Pass. On October 5, they were driven out by Pakistan Army which was supported by Pakistan Air Force. On October 7, Prime Minister Liaquat Ali Khan said in the Parliament that "having utterly failed to suborn the loyalty of our tribesmen, they have started organizing raids into our territory by Afghan tribesmen and elements of the Afghan Army".

[Kabulistan]

Because 'beghairat' Pakistan is a regional power and one of the next big things while 'ghairatmand' Afghanistan has nothing to show for except ruins and stoneage mentality . When Afghans see this they have resentment towards Pakistan .

Lol Pakis and their delusions...

Next Big things surely Look like this:







Instead of building nuclear bombs to boast to your daddy India, start cleaning your streets first and teach your population not to **** everywhere...Pakistan is a litteral toilet, sh...


Whats there to envy Pakiland? You guys have nothing...its a joke you call Pakiland a regional Power, when your country is getting orders from USA and your president ordered around like a dog....and the fact that you prioritize nuclear bombs over cleaning the garbagefilled toilet you consider country shows how dumb you people really are....its really no Wonder a few 100 British managed to enslave and rule your kind for 400 years...