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  • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post


    99 % of Kids in KP don't even know what lar aw bar means let alone being Afghan . You are running into a brick wall here . Maybe we should make a united states of pashtunistan and make you the president ?
    Tell us the stories of your grandfather who was serving in the army of Angraiz

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    • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
      Tell us the stories of your grandfather who was serving in the army of Angraiz
      I can tell you stories of Pakistan army who is saving your tiny ass from India . You would probably be a jamadaar by now serving hindus if not for them .

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      • Originally posted by Sher-E-Punjab View Post
        Chalo khair Samandri saab. Hum saab Punjabi buraay he. Ao to humay khatham kar do.


        Maar do.


        Magar, me apko apna Musalman bhai samaj ta hun. Jo karna he kar lo. Zulam ka badla lena he to mujse hi le lo.
        What a terrible reaction. Someone criticises the inherent racism very many Punjabi Pakistanis have, and you respond by saying "go ahead... kill us all".

        Stop crying. If you truly sympathize with us, we have no reason to want to punish you.

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        • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
          I can tell you stories of Pakistan army who is saving your tiny ass from India . You would probably be a jamadaar by now serving hindus if not for them .
          Why you dodged my request? please tell us about the adventures of your grandfather who was a sipahi in British Indian Army and polished the boots of Angraiz.......

          You can also tell me about the adventures of your rapist grandfather in Pakistan army who raped Bengali women in 1971.

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          • Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
            You were the one triggered, since you felt so compelled to resort to the personal jab. Things were civil until childish slurs like "D-list forum member" and "nimrod" were flung at me. I was merely responding in kind.
            Basically the content level of this post: "No, you!!!!"

            I didn't get personal, you were reaching hard and I had to call you out on it.

            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
            don’t try to be smart.

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            • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
              You were caught with your pants down about outskirts thing . Luton isn't exactly London is it ? Postdam is in outskirts of Berlin doesn't mean its Berlin .

              You have been nowhere else but Afghan forums . Brainwashed by your loy Afghanistan stuff . KP is currently the fastest growing province in the country both in terms of governance and Reforms .


              Usually when you say something and someone shows you something that debunks what you said. It means your pants were down But I understand in this world of Fragile Pakistani Jingoist Identity crisis, things often get spun around. but just so this sinks in, Outskirts of a city, are apart of the totality OF the city ....ZING!!! Actually Luton, Lewisham and Croydon etc. are parts of London, they're boroughs. Even says it right here.

              Croydon is a large town in south London, England, the principal settlement of the London Borough of Croydon. It is located 9.5 miles (15.3 km) south of Charing Cross

              The fact you're still tripping over this stuff tells it's eating away at you. lol Oh wow, The Paki Drone who admitted he got indoctrinated into Paki Nationalism is accusing others of being brainwashed. lol
              Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 12-07-2016, 09:15 AM.

              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
              don’t try to be smart.

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              • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                Why you dodged my request? please tell us about the adventures of your grandfather who was a sipahi in British Indian Army and polished the boots of Angraiz.......

                You can also tell me about the adventures of your rapist grandfather in Pakistan army who raped Bengali women in 1971.
                Why would that interest you ? Namak harams dont deserve anything related to Pakistan .

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                • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                  Usually when you say something and someone shows you something that debunks what you said. It means your pants were down But I understand in this world of Fragile Pakistani Jingoist Identity crisis, things often get spun around. but just so this sinks in, Outskirts of a city, are apart of the totality OF the city ....ZING!!! Actually Luton, Lewisham and Croydon etc. are parts of London, they're boroughs. Even says it right here.

                  Croydon is a large town in south London, England, the principal settlement of the London Borough of Croydon. It is located 9.5 miles (15.3 km) south of Charing Cross

                  The fact you're still tripping over this stuff tells it's eating away at you. lol Oh wow, The Paki Drone who admitted he got indoctrinated into Paki Nationalism is accusing others of being brainwashed. lol
                  These Christian slums are in the I-11 sector of Islamabad city, which means they are within Islamabad city, not Pindi.....

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                  • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                    $ 100 billion went into Afghanistan . That's more than all the money Americans gave the europeans after World war 2 . But still your economy is stuck with chars and drugs ?

                    Turkey is Fighting it a war within for a while now and even they have a hard time controlling it . It takes a few years to overwhelm it .

                    By Stability I mean out of 70 years of our existence , only few years were bad that too limited to FATA and balochistan . Comparing North Korea with us ? Get a grip .

                    By Future I mean winning meaningful things like this all over the world .

                    Pakistan wins three golds, six silvers at international ICT Awards | Pakistan | thenews.com.pk

                    Or exporting planes to Africa's biggest country Nigeria .

                    ]

                    More money? Firstly that's not even a sourced statement, but you're comparing money values in 1945 to 2001 lol

                    Pakistan has been an AID recipient its entire tenure, and you're bragging about exporting obsolete commuter planes left over by the British. That link is just some international competition for IT; great when we want someone who can data mine medical insurance fraud, we'll call you. LOL

                    Turkey's been fighting a war within for decades with the Kurds, but Turkey isn't fighting their own State-Packed terrorist entities as blowback. That is a title Pakistan proudly holds. Only a few years were bad LOL, You got whopped by India each time you went at them lol
                    Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 12-07-2016, 09:28 AM.

                    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                    don’t try to be smart.

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                    • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                      More money? Firstly that's not even a sourced statement, but you're comparing money values in 1945 to 2001 lol

                      Pakistan has been an AID recipient its entire tenure, and you're bragging about exporting obsolete commuter planes left over by the British. That link is just some international competition for IT; great when we want someone who can data mine medical insurance fraud, we'll call you. LOL

                      Turkey's been fighting a war within for decades with the Kurds, but Turkey isn't fighting their own State-Packed terrorist entities as blowback. That is a title Pakistan proudly holds. Only a few years were bad LOL, You got whopped by India each time you went at them lol
                      Why the US Spent More on Afghanistan Than on the Marshall Plan | The Diplomat

                      The value is adjusted for Inflation . But still a drug afeem economy ? What exactly do Afghans make ?

                      India biggest recipient of US economic assistance over 66-year period: USAID - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

                      Total US aid since 1947 is $44 billion . Thats not even 1/5 of our total economy . Try harder .


                      Nigerian Air Force Chief confirms expected JF-17 deliveries

                      Myanmar buys fighter jets JF-17 Thunder |

                      Burn much ?

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                      • Originally posted by Sher-E-Punjab View Post
                        You should not say negative things about Afghans. Many of the Afghan refugees that were forced to leave Pakistan are more loyal to Pakistan than people like Samandri and these other western living Pashtuns. To be fair without bias, even in their NIC's Pashtuns are under the title Afghania or Afghan.
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                        brother don't write non sense, bacha khanis are still loyal to Pakistan unlike afghanis. I didn't knew about Afghan history of interference in Pakistan internal affairs from 1947-1979. I used to feel bad for what ISI did but not anymore. And even now afghani refugees can blame their Modi loving president after going back.

                        Afghani refugees are threat to integrity of Pakistan, make no mistake about it. We especially need to hunt those with forged CNIC.

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                        • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                          I disagree. Almost every Punjabi (with the exception of few rare gems) is spreading the propaganda that Pashtun and Afghan are not the two names for the same qaum. They are also stressing on the point that those Pakistani Pashtuns who are calling themselves ethnic Afghans, are traitors and should be kicked out of Pakistan......they are simply asking Pakistani Pashtuns to give up on their Afghan identity and history associated with it, and are demanding that each Pakistani Pashtun should hate Afghanistan and its people just like they are hating Hindus and India on their east. At the same time they are called us "Pathans" (word coined by Hindus) instead of proper word Pashtun/Pakhtun
                          Don't blame us, no paki pathan call himself afghan lol Afghan for any Pakistani mean someone from Afghanistan. What identity are you talking about, other day I was reading article on Balochistan pakhtuns and how they get mistaken for ethnic Baloch by KPK pakhtuns. And here you are going gaga over punjabis saying Afghan mean someone form Afghanistan. And about pathan word, first ask KPK CM khattack to stop using it before blaming punjabis.
                          Last edited by dawn; 12-07-2016, 11:20 AM.

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                          • Every important and famous pakhtun in Pakistan have either called himself pathan or pakhtun, I've never heard anyone say afghan. And now you expect punjabis to suddenly identify you as afghans just because someone like Achakzai with questionable background want afghani refugees for his own political career in Balochistan. Not going to happen bro.

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                            • Originally posted by dawn View Post
                              Every important and famous pakhtun in Pakistan have either called himself pathan or pakhtun, I've never heard anyone say afghan. And now you expect punjabis to suddenly identify you as afghans just because someone like Achakzai with questionable background want afghani refugees for his own political career in Balochistan. Not going to happen bro.
                              I am content with just being called Pakhtun or Pashtun, thats the word we use for ourselves in daily life conversations........but Afghan word is also part of our identity and we use it in our literature. The issue with ultra-Pakistani-natioanlists is that they insist that we give up on word Afghan and that we should consider Pashtuns on both sides of Durand line to be different people.....

                              Pakistani bigots/nationalists are not pioneer of this attempt......They are following the footsteps of British. i was a reading a paper of H.G.Raverty, a historian, dating 1895 in which he was criticizing the attempt of British officers to use word "Pathan" for Pashtuns under British jurisdiction and word Afghan for those under Amir of Kabul, and trying to prove the divided people to be different and distinct from each other, he criticzed the usage of word "Pathan" by British , thats its an Indian word and Pashtuns dont use it for themeselves.....Later we see Olaf Caoe, governor of NWFP, came up with absurd definitions of Pathan and Afghan.

                              If some Pakistani Pashtun is calling himself Pathan, its Desi/Pakistani/Hindi influence on him, as Pakistani is a Hindi identity
                              Last edited by Samandri; 12-07-2016, 12:20 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                                I am content with just being called Pakhtun or Pashtun, thats the word we use for ourselves in daily life conversations........but Afghan word is also part of our identity and we use it in our literature. The issue with ultra-Pakistani-natioanlists is that they insist that we give up on word Afghan and that we should consider Pashtuns on both sides of Durand line to be different people.....

                                Pakistani bigots/nationalists are not pioneer of this attempt......They are following the footsteps of British. i was a reading a paper of H.G.Raverty, a historian, dating 1895 in which he was criticizing the attempt of British officers to use word "Pathan" for Pashtuns under British jurisdiction and word Afghan for those under Amir of Kabul, and trying to prove the divided people to be different and distinct from each other, he criticzed the usage of word "Pathan" by British , thats its an Indian word and Pashtuns dont use it for themeselves.....Later we see Olaf Caoe, governor of NWFP, came up with absurd definitions of Pathan and Afghan.

                                If some Pakistani Pashtun is calling himself Pathan, its Desi/Pakistani/Hindi influence on him, as Pakistani is a Hindi identity
                                I don't think anyone say pakhtuns are different, apart from maybe racist afghanis on internet calling you dhalkhors and indian looking, pathans etc. But now afghan mean someone from Afghanistan. Like for average Pakistani everyone in balochistan is ethnic Baloch.

                                Punjabis think every afghan is pathan by default. And even someone like me recently found out that afghan pakhtuns make minority in Kabul.

                                You can't blame Pakistani nationalists for taking on bacha khanis like Achakzai who clearly have hidden agenda when he says afghan mean pakhtun.

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