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  • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
    Stolen AID hoarded by Pakistan's military establishment.



    Yet it took you nearly a decade to defeat a bunch of Madrassa students with barely any military training, and even then they're still functional.



    North Korea also has nukes, and much like Pakistan, their people suffered by resources going towards nukes.



    The place you couldn't control even pouring billions into Taliban who eventually turned on you.



    22 Attacks even after Zarb-e-Azab was declared a "success"



    Didn't know having your terrorists turning on you was what counted as stability these days.


    Which Pakistan wanted to stimulate by your own admission.


    Future



    Sex Trafficking hub to sell Paki women to Arab Sheikhs, coincidence?




    Again, 22 Terror attacks after zarb-e-azab was declared a success.




    Narrative looks logical to the brainwashed.
    $ 100 billion went into Afghanistan . That's more than all the money Americans gave the europeans after World war 2 . But still your economy is stuck with chars and drugs ?

    Turkey is Fighting it a war within for a while now and even they have a hard time controlling it . It takes a few years to overwhelm it .

    By Stability I mean out of 70 years of our existence , only few years were bad that too limited to FATA and balochistan . Comparing North Korea with us ? Get a grip .

    By Future I mean winning meaningful things like this all over the world .

    Pakistan wins three golds, six silvers at international ICT Awards | Pakistan | thenews.com.pk

    Or exporting planes to Africa's biggest country Nigeria .

    Last edited by Peshawer_222; 12-07-2016, 02:55 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
      I wouldn't call insecure cyber warriors getting triggered by online comments as "solid".

      Not sure what your point about this guy is ...I refer you to house ****** phenomenon to explain these types.
      You were caught with your pants down about outskirts thing . Luton isn't exactly London is it ? Postdam is in outskirts of Berlin doesn't mean its Berlin .

      You have been nowhere else but Afghan forums . Brainwashed by your loy Afghanistan stuff . KP is currently the fastest growing province in the country both in terms of governance and Reforms .

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      • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
        Bangladesh was never Pakistan to begin with
        .

        What a beghairat response. Bengalis were at the forefront of Pakistan movement and had more role than any other community of present-day Pakistan, and now a Punjabi-wannabe like you have the audacity to not acknowledge their Pakistani history at all. If they were not Pakistanis from the begining then why Urdu was imposed on them? why military action was taken against them to keep them part of Pakistan in which lakhs of Bengalis were killed and thousands of women were raped?

        Did your sucker grandfather in Pakistani army also participated in the rapes of Bengali women in 1971?

        I can ask you the same thing why dont you go back to Afghanistan Namak Haram ?
        I am in "Afghania"...........

        Have a look at his zeal and conviction . Listen from 1.58. His family is from Swabi btw .
        And Fazlullah graduated from his Panjpir madrassa....like i said Taliban are creation and assets of ISI

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        • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
          .
          I am in "Afghania"...........
          I


          Have a look at this delusional man here . Thinking he is living in 15th century . WTF Is Afghania ? Is that the name of madrassa you studied in ? Do you drive a car or a chariot ? Do light fire with a match box or by friction of stones ? Do you wear normal clothes or dress up like african tribals in leaves ?

          WTF is wrong with you ? Your body seems to be in 2016 but mentaly you are stuck in some bygone era . Seek help seriously .

          Beghairata . Warsha alta kabul ta laarh sha amreeka darna moor aow khor alee ta dalta khabari kay namak harama .
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          • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post


            Have a look at this delusional man here . Thinking he is living in 15th century . WTF Is Afghania ? Is that the name of madrassa you studied in ? Do you drive a car or a chariot ? Do light fire with a match box or by friction of stones ? Do you wear normal clothes or dress up like african tribals in leaves ?

            WTF is wrong with you ? Your body seems to be in 2016 but mentaly you are stuck in some bygone era . Seek help seriously .
            By bygone era you mean the years when Chauhdri Rahmat Ali said that "Alif" or "A" in Pakistan stands for Afghania......Allama Iqbal was also from bygone era when he addressed Wazirs and Mahsuds as 'Afghan' and advised them to wear 'khilat-i-Afghaniat' instead of remaining confined to their tribe's interests?





            Beghairata . Warsha alta kabul ta laarh sha amreeka darna moor aow khor alee ta dalta khabari kay namak harama .
            So you have learnt the few lines of Pashto name callings from the Youtube videos you shared. How old are you?

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            • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
              By bygone era you mean the years when Chauhdri Rahmat Ali said that "Alif" or "A" in Pakistan stands for Afghania......Allama Iqbal was also from bygone era when he addressed Wazirs and Mahsuds as 'Afghan' and advised them to wear 'khilat-i-Afghaniat' instead of remaining confined to their tribe's interests?





              So you have learnt the few lines of Pashto name callings from the Youtube videos you shared. How old are you?
              It has been NWFP since 1947 . There never was a time when KP was named Afghania . Your Quote is from 1933 when there was no Pakistan . Allama Iqbal again may have called them Afghans because there was no Pakistan at the time . From 1947-2016 show me an era where any Prominent Nationalist leader has called this land Afghania ? You are clearly grasping for straws . You don't fit inside Pakistan because you are basically a caveman so you want to get in touch with your Afghan brethren by mentally living in a bygone era .

              I can quote your posts in Pashto no problem by me . Just have your ghairat in right places next time .

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              • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                From 1947-2016 show me an era where any Prominent Nationalist leader has called this land Afghania ? You are clearly grasping for straws . You don't fit inside Pakistan because you are basically a caveman so you want to get in touch with your Afghan brethren by mentally living in a bygone era .
                Allama Iqbal was also a cavemen mentally living in bygone era?. Pakistani nationalists consider Allama Iqbal to be the second greatest leader of Pakistani ideology after Jinnah and attribute two nation theory to him.......and yet Allama Iqbal of "bygone era" is advising Wazirs and Mahsuds to shed tribalism and wear "khilat-i-Afghaniat"......If you are a Pakistani nationalist then you can not dismiss his words by saying that he said such things before creation of Pakistan...well his khutb-i-Allahbad was also before creation of Pakistan and he died before creation of Pakistan....

                And in the above couplet he is quoting Sher Shah Suri of medieval times. Was Allama Iqbal stuck in past and was a "cavemen" in your opinion?. On defence.pk you were insulting Khushal Khan and his poetry that it has no place in modern times , that we should rather read Allama Iqbal's poetry.......but Allama Iqbal himself was greatly inspired from Khsuhal Khan Khattak and has paid tribute to him by translating some of his poems in his own style. How old are you exactly? You are very immature and stupid.
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                • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                  Allama Iqbal was also a cavemen mentally living in bygone era?. Pakistani nationalists consider Allama Iqbal to be the second greatest leader of Pakistani ideology after Jinnah and attribute two nation theory to him.......and yet Allama Iqbal of "bygone era" is advising Wazirs and Mahsuds to shed tribalism and wear "khilat-i-Afghaniat"......If you are a Pakistani nationalist then you can not dismiss his words by saying that he said such things before creation of Pakistan...well his khutb-i-Allahbad was also before creation of Pakistan and he died before creation of Pakistan....

                  And in the above couplet he is quoting Sher Shah Suri of medieval times. Was Allama Iqbal stuck in past and was a "cavemen" in your opinion?. On defence.pk you were insulting Khushal Khan and his poetry that it has no place in modern times , that we should rather read Allama Iqbal's poetry.......but Allama Iqbal himself was greatly inspired from Khsuhal Khan Khattak and has paid tribute to him by translating some of his poems in his own style. You are very immature and stupid
                  Again name me a time from 1947 -2016 when KP was called Afghania ?You can't tell me because it was never called as such after the creation of Pakistan .

                  Pakistani's revere Iqbal . There is no doubt about that . But most Pakistani's don't use history to create a sense of superiority about themselves or live mentally 100-200 years ago . You might have noticed most of the posts and threads on Defence .Pk are about present and future developments . Again you are making **** up . I never said one shouldn't read up on Khushal khan Khattak . In Pakistan in all provinces most of the literature taught is about Pakistan in general with a little references to Ethnic Sindhi , Pashtun , Punjabi leaders unless you want to do Masters or PHD in a language than that's another story .

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                  • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                    Again name me a time from 1947 -2016 when KP was called Afghania ?You can't tell me because it was never called as such after the creation of Pakistan .

                    Pakistani's revere Iqbal . There is no doubt about that . But most Pakistani's don't use history to create a sense of superiority about themselves or live mentally 100-200 years ago . You might have noticed most of the posts and threads on Defence .Pk are about present and future developments . Again you are making **** up . I never said one shouldn't read up on Khushal khan Khattak . In Pakistan in all provinces most of the literature taught is about Pakistan in general with a little references to Ethnic Sindhi , Pashtun , Punjabi leaders unless you want to do Masters or PHD in a language than that's another story .
                    Salaam brother,

                    I am a Pakistani Punjabi. I am not a super duper nationalist because I take Islam seriously, but I am still loyal to my country Pakistan.

                    You should not say negative things about Afghans. Many of the Afghan refugees that were forced to leave Pakistan are more loyal to Pakistan than people like Samandri and these other western living Pashtuns. To be fair without bias, even in their NIC's Pashtuns are under the title Afghania or Afghan.

                    If some Afghans are racist towards Pakistanis, then why do you feel the need to be the same like them?

                    In Punjab, we have no problems with Afghans. They usually open truck stops and within them dhabbas or restaurants. They are peaceful and earn their money through halal means.

                    Just take it easy man. Pakistan and Afghanistan is the same ****, whether some of these Afghan westerners like to admit or not. Rural Punjabis live in the same kind of mud huts as they do.


                    My final message to you is this:
                    Afghanistan & Pakistan Confederation - YouTube

                    Whether this is possible or not doesn't matter bro. But still, you must give respect to get respect. If you keep hating Afghans, you are no different from the people that you dislike.

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                    • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                      Again name me a time from 1947 -2016 when KP was called Afghania ?You can't tell me because it was never called as such after the creation of Pakistan .

                      Pakistani's revere Iqbal . There is no doubt about that . But most Pakistani's don't use history to create a sense of superiority about themselves or live mentally 100-200 years ago . You might have noticed most of the posts and threads on Defence .Pk are about present and future developments . Again you are making **** up . I never said one shouldn't read up on Khushal khan Khattak . In Pakistan in all provinces most of the literature taught is about Pakistan in general with a little references to Ethnic Sindhi , Pashtun , Punjabi leaders unless you want to do Masters or PHD in a language than that's another story .
                      You have not answered my question......Alif or 'A' in Pakistan word stands for Afghania, thus Pakistan is acknowledging the fact that Afghan is another term for Pashtun, both are interchangeable, while you and other Punjabis are refusing to accept this fact. Allama Iqbal, who is credited with two nation theory and who is called 'Mufakir-i-Pakistan' , also use Afghan in the same meaning of Pashtun. Land revenue records of Pakistan have registered the nasal/qaum of Pakistani Pashtuns as 'Afghan' even though they are not citizens of Afghanistan.

                      You dismiss history for obvious reasons, your grandfathers kissed the asses of Angraiz shamelessly but its on the basis of history that Jinnah said that Pakistan came into being when first one in India converted from Hinduism and Islam...we on the basis of historical facts, also say that Pashtuns were also called Afghans long before creation of Afghanistan state and are still Afghan and will always be Afghans. Punjabi tactics and schemes to create confusion about Pashtun identity, wont work.

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                      • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                        You have not answered my question......Alif or 'A' in Pakistan word stands for Afghania, thus Pakistan is acknowledging the fact that Afghan is another term for Pashtun, both are interchangeable, while you and other Punjabis are refusing to accept this fact. Allama Iqbal, who is credited with two nation theory and who is called 'Mufakir-i-Pakistan' , also use Afghan in the same meaning of Pashtun. Land revenue records of Pakistan have registered the nasal/qaum of Pakistani Pashtuns as 'Afghan' even though they are not citizens of Afghanistan.

                        You dismiss history for obvious reasons, your grandfathers kissed the asses of Angraiz shamelessly but its on the basis of history that Jinnah said that Pakistan came into being when first one in India converted from Hinduism and Islam...we on the basis of historical facts, also say that Pashtuns were also called Afghans long before creation of Afghanistan state and are still Afghan and will always be Afghans. Punjabi tactics and schemes to create confusion about Pashtun identity, wont work.
                        Uh hello?


                        Punjabi is trying to make peace with everyone, but still you bringing up Punjabis? Wtf Luffy?

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                        • Originally posted by Sher-E-Punjab View Post
                          Uh hello?


                          Punjabi is trying to make peace with everyone, but still you bringing up Punjabis? Wtf Luffy?
                          He is going on every forum and bringing up the topic of how Pashtuns and Punjabi's are at loggerheads when in reality Pashtuns and Punjabi's live very peacefully and inter mingle alot .

                          He is just irritated because no Pakistani Pashtun agrees with him . I told him before to go to any Market in KP and call any Pashtun Kabulay or Afghanay he will probably be lynched .

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                          • Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                            You have not answered my question......Alif or 'A' in Pakistan word stands for Afghania, thus Pakistan is acknowledging the fact that Afghan is another term for Pashtun, both are interchangeable, while you and other Punjabis are refusing to accept this fact. Allama Iqbal, who is credited with two nation theory and who is called 'Mufakir-i-Pakistan' , also use Afghan in the same meaning of Pashtun. Land revenue records of Pakistan have registered the nasal/qaum of Pakistani Pashtuns as 'Afghan' even though they are not citizens of Afghanistan.

                            You dismiss history for obvious reasons, your grandfathers kissed the asses of Angraiz shamelessly but its on the basis of history that Jinnah said that Pakistan came into being when first one in India converted from Hinduism and Islam...we on the basis of historical facts, also say that Pashtuns were also called Afghans long before creation of Afghanistan state and are still Afghan and will always be Afghans. Punjabi tactics and schemes to create confusion about Pashtun identity, wont work.
                            Your are irritated for obvious reasons because Pakistani nationalism has trumped ethnic superiority and racial hate to live peacefully . What does it Say on your ID and passport? Does it say you are Afghan ? Did Jinnah call the land Afghania ? Because he was alive for a year after independence . Nopes . Allama Iqbal called it because there was no Pakistan back then . You are making **** up and living in your own 15th century world where you are sitting on a horse and ruling your lands .

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                            • Originally posted by Sher-E-Punjab View Post
                              Uh hello?


                              Punjabi is trying to make peace with everyone, but still you bringing up Punjabis? Wtf Luffy?
                              I disagree. Almost every Punjabi (with the exception of few rare gems) is spreading the propaganda that Pashtun and Afghan are not the two names for the same qaum. They are also stressing on the point that those Pakistani Pashtuns who are calling themselves ethnic Afghans, are traitors and should be kicked out of Pakistan......they are simply asking Pakistani Pashtuns to give up on their Afghan identity and history associated with it, and are demanding that each Pakistani Pashtun should hate Afghanistan and its people just like they are hating Hindus and India on their east. At the same time they are called us "Pathans" (word coined by Hindus) instead of proper word Pashtun/Pakhtun

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                              • Originally posted by Peshawer_222 View Post
                                He is going on every forum and bringing up the topic of how Pashtuns and Punjabi's are at loggerheads when in reality Pashtuns and Punjabi's live very peacefully and inter mingle alot .

                                He is just irritated because no Pakistani Pashtun agrees with him . I told him before to go to any Market in KP and call any Pashtun Kabulay or Afghanay he will probably be lynched .
                                Punjabis and Pashtuns are pretty chill with eachother.

                                A lot of Pashtuns come to Punjab, but you don't see us trying to bully them or mess with them. They come and work honestly so there is no tension.

                                I've seen Samandri call an Afghan a maajar, just because he liked living in Pakistan and called himself a Pakistani. I believe the guy was Khilji Pashtun. It was surprising.

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