12 'terrorists' killed in Khyber Agency air strikes

[Peacelove]

He is going on every forum and bringing up the topic of how Pashtuns and Punjabi's are at loggerheads when in reality Pashtuns and Punjabi's live very peacefully and inter mingle alot .

He is just irritated because no Pakistani Pashtun agrees with him . I told him before to go to any Market in KP and call any Pashtun Kabulay or Afghanay he will probably be lynched .

I agree that we live in peace at Paksitan. I have visited so many places in Pak when i was there from Quetta to karachi, Lahore and sukkur no body hated me just because of ethnic.
Samandari bro is saying the same thing what my PMAP friends says..

[Peshawer_222]

Salaam brother,

I am a Pakistani Punjabi. I am not a super duper nationalist because I take Islam seriously, but I am still loyal to my country Pakistan.

You should not say negative things about Afghans. Many of the Afghan refugees that were forced to leave Pakistan are more loyal to Pakistan than people like Samandri and these other western living Pashtuns. To be fair without bias, even in their NIC's Pashtuns are under the title Afghania or Afghan.

If some Afghans are racist towards Pakistanis, then why do you feel the need to be the same like them?

In Punjab, we have no problems with Afghans. They usually open truck stops and within them dhabbas or restaurants. They are peaceful and earn their money through halal means.

Just take it easy man. Pakistan and Afghanistan is the same ****, whether some of these Afghan westerners like to admit or not. Rural Punjabis live in the same kind of mud huts as they do.


My final message to you is this:
Afghanistan & Pakistan Confederation - YouTube

Whether this is possible or not doesn't matter bro. But still, you must give respect to get respect. If you keep hating Afghans, you are no different from the people that you dislike.

You are embarrassing yourself by comparing Punjab and Afghanistan . Even FATA is far ahead of them . As for confederation well it will be a big headache. Pakistani's are not mentaly compatible with these people believe me . There was this Afghani in my neighbourhood who thought learning english is a sin . Plus its a war wrecked country for 40 years we have to rebuild it from scratch . If they ate up all the $ 100 billion american aid what chance do we have to make them stand on their feet?

[Sher-E-Punjab]

I disagree. Almost every Punjabi (with the exception of few rare gems) is spreading the propaganda that Pashtun and Afghan are not the two names for the same qaum. They are also stressing on the point that those Pakistani Pashtuns who are calling themselves ethnic Afghans, are traitors and should be kicked out of Afghanistan......they are simply asking Pakistani Pashtuns to give up on their Afghan identity and history associated with it, and are demanding that each Pakistani Pashtun should hate Afghanistan and its people just like they are hating Hindus and India on their east. At the same time they are called us "Pathans" (word coined by Hindus) instead of proper word Pashtun/Pakhtun

I am not one of those people Luffy. Pashtuns are Afghan, even if they hold Pakistani nationality. And I am not like those chuttus on PDF that hates on Afghan refugees in Pakistan. They are our brothers and for them Afghanistan and Pakistan should be like the same country.

But the problem is that your brothers across the border consider Tajiks, Uzbeks and everyone else as 'Afghan'. So that is something you should sort out with the Afghans here. Me, you know me. I am simple guy. Who am I to oppress or try to withhold your identity from you?

You are what you are. I respect the Pashtun quam in general. The thing is that after APS Peshawar, Pakistanis have become extremely bigoted towards Afghan citizens in general, and for good reason.

I don't care what justification you want to use, but to shoot over 100 children in the head point blank is not justifiable. Pakistani Army bombs did not have children's names written on them, but during APS each and every bullet was directed at a child. It's just something to think about, because Pakistan has always been the most pro Afghan country on Earth.

[Samandri]

Did Jinnah call the land Afghania ? Because he was alive for a year after independence ..

Your Jinnah baba used the corrupt word "Pathan" for us , instead of proper word Pashtun or Pakhtun.....and his choice of word for 'Pashtunistan' was 'Pathanistan' .....what the fck is 'Pathanistan'?. Jinnah was not an intellectual , just a lawyer and an arm-chair politician.

When NWFP was getting renamed to Pakhtunkhwa in 2008-2010...Punjab and Punjabis were opposing it and were creating the noise that such move is treason with Pakistan and it will damage the integrity of Pakistan and that it is path to separation of NWFP from Pakistan. Renaming of NWFP to Pakhtunkhwa was failure of Punjabism and Pakistani nationalism.........the same paranoia and mistrust exists in them about word Afghan and its association with Pashtun people.

[Samandri]

I am not one of those people Luffy. Pashtuns are Afghan, even if they hold Pakistani nationality. And I am not like those chuttus on PDF that hates on Afghan refugees in Pakistan. They are our brothers and for them Afghanistan and Pakistan should be like the same country.

But the problem is that your brothers across the border consider Tajiks, Uzbeks and everyone else as 'Afghan'. So that is something you should sort out with the Afghans here. Me, you know me. I am simple guy. Who am I to oppress or try to withhold your identity from you?

You are what you are. I respect the Pashtun quam in general. The thing is that after APS Peshawar, Pakistanis have become extremely bigoted towards Afghan citizens in general, and for good reason.

I don't care what justification you want to use, but to shoot over 100 children in the head point blank is not justifiable. Pakistani Army bombs did not have children's names written on them, but during APS each and every bullet was directed at a child. It's just something to think about, because Pakistan has always been the most pro Afghan country on Earth.

Your views are not representative of majority of the Punjabis......leave PDF aside, i am also on twitter and facebook and the views of the Punjabis (calling themselves patriotic Pakistanis) are same as i have mentioned. If you are disagreeing with me on this then you are not being honest.

[Samandri]

I've seen Samandri call an Afghan a maajar, just because he liked living in Pakistan and called himself a Pakistani. I believe the guy was Khilji Pashtun. It was surprising.

You mean the member "Ghilzai"? that guy was a member here by name of "Gadoonwal" and he was extremely anti-Pakistani and a separatist, and was fooling you guys by posing as patriotic Pakistani........ He was attacking me here as well as there, so i exposed him here as well as there.

He claimed to be Ghilzai from FATA but was refusing to give further details. When i told him that only Ghilzais in FATA are Suileman Khels of South Waziirsitan and they speak a soft dialect while he was speaking hard dialect of Peshawar valley.......in response to that he claimed that he is an Afghan refugee of 80s and he has acquired Pakistani citizenship. He was not that bright

[Sher-E-Punjab]

Your views are not representative of majority of the Punjabis......leave PDF aside, i am also on twitter and facebook and the views of the Punjabis (calling themselves patriotic Pakistanis) are same as i have mentioned. If you are disagreeing with me on this then you are not being honest.

I am not on facebook or twitter, but you should know there are segments of Punjabi people that think along the same lines of your tribals.

As long as you acknowledge that, then I know what you are upset about is not bs. It might be my family or Arains in general that hold a very conservative outlook on life and Islam.

To be honest, all my cousins travel with Tableegh and hold the same views.


My views are a bit different, but I don't think I am an unfair person. Also, you've barley ever been to Punjab other than probably Lahore. Why don't you come and travel to Punjabi villages and try to see their viewpoints? It's not much different from yours, yet you want to use the word 'Punjabi'. How about you use the word 'elites', because plenty of your Pashtuns are part of that circle.

[Samandri]

How about you use the word 'elites', because plenty of your Pashtuns are part of that circle.

OK , i will use the term 'Punjabi elites' and 'Punjabi intelligentsia'

[Peshawer_222]

Your Jinnah baba used the corrupt word "Pathan" for us , instead of proper word Pashtun or Pakhtun.....and his choice of word for 'Pashtunistan' was 'Pathanistan' .....what the fck is 'Pathanistan'?. Jinnah was not an intellectual , just a lawyer and an arm-chair politician.

When NWFP was getting renamed to Pakhtunkhwa in 2008-2010...Punjab and Punjabis were opposing it and were creating the noise that such move is treason with Pakistan and it will damage the integrity of Pakistan and that it is path to separation of NWFP from Pakistan. Renaming of NWFP to Pakhtunkhwa was failure of Punjabism and Pakistani nationalism.........the same paranoia and mistrust exists in them about word Afghan and its association with Pashtun people.

Which world do you live in ? What integrity ? There never has been an insurgency in KP against Pakistan . You have a habit of making **** up . Only ANP nationalists which are very few in numbers say this . Nobody amongst Pakistani Pashtun say they are Afghan . Like I said why don't you tell a Peshawariwaal of being a Afghanay? Lets see what he tells you ? .

You have this habit of trying to stir **** up out of nothing . You never been outside Lakki marwat or Afghanistan in your life that is why your judgement is clouded by your clear bias towards ethnic topics .

[Sher-E-Punjab]

OK , i will use the term 'Punjabi elites' and 'Punjabi intelligentsia'

Maulana Diesel bhi unkay saath he?

[Samandri]

Which world do you live in ? What integrity ? There never has been an insurgency in KP against Pakistan . You have a habit of making **** up . Only ANP nationalists which are very few in numbers say this . Nobody amongst Pakistani Pashtun say they are Afghan . Like I said why don't you tell a Peshawariwaal of being a Afghanay? Lets see what he tells you ? .

You have this habit of trying to stir **** up out of nothing . You never been outside Lakki marwat or Afghanistan in your life that is why your judgement is clouded by your clear bias towards ethnic topics .

Every Pashtun is an Afghan and Lar or Bar You Afghan, meaning Pashtuns of both countries are one and same people........just like Kurds of four countries are one and same poeple

[Samandri]

Maulana Diesel bhi unkay saath he?

He is not a Pakistani nationalist (Zahid Hamidi), just a power-hungry maulana

[Sher-E-Punjab]

Chalo khair Samandri saab. Hum saab Punjabi buraay he. Ao to humay khatham kar do.


Maar do.


Magar, me apko apna Musalman bhai samaj ta hun. Jo karna he kar lo. Zulam ka badla lena he to mujse hi le lo.

[Peshawer_222]

Every Pashtun is an Afghan and Lar or Bar You Afghan, meaning Pashtuns of both countries are one and same people........just like Kurds of four countries are one and same poeple

99 % of Kids in KP don't even know what lar aw bar means let alone being Afghan . You are running into a brick wall here . Maybe we should make a united states of pashtunistan and make you the president ?

[Samandri]

Chalo khair Samandri saab. Hum saab Punjabi buraay he. Ao to humay khatham kar do.


Maar do.


Magar, me apko apna Musalman bhai samaj ta hun. Jo karna he kar lo. Zulam ka badla lena he to mujse hi le lo.

Luffy jo bi kahe ga such aur saaf baat kahe ga, chache kisi ko wo baat kitni bi buri lagay