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  • #46
    Originally posted by dawn View Post
    ??

    "Former US military commander Gen (R) David Petraeus has said that during his long association with his Pakistani counterparts and interaction with ISI as head of CIA, he could never find a convincing piece of evidence which supported the alleged double game by ISI or its explicit support to elements associated with terrorism."
    Totally different time period, he wasn't an intelligence source during the period we speak of as far as you reference is concerned.

    Pashto music is from India considering most of classical pashto singers are of mirasi caste.
    1.) Irrelevant
    2.) Pashtuns don't have a caste system
    Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 11-29-2016, 05:10 PM.

    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
    don’t try to be smart.

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    • #47
      This myth was destroyed a long time ago in Afghanistan. But its Pakis that still belive in this.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        Most of Pakistanis mistake NA and Jamiat Islami.
        Most pakistanis dont know anything about afghan demoghraphics.To them afghanistan is all about pashtuns and its leader according to pakistani pathans must also be pashtun.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
          Totally different time period, he wasn't an intelligence source during the period we speak of as far as you reference is concerned.



          1.) Irrelevant
          2.) Pashtuns don't have a caste system
          Then why pashto singers are mirasis if there is no caste system?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by dawn View Post
            Then why pashto singers are mirasis if there is no caste system?
            You say this as if it's a universal fact; which it's not. If you mean the royal Kharabat in Kabul, they were classical musicians, who were trained in India, but not a "caste"

            Either way irrelevant to anything we discussed here.

            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
            don’t try to be smart.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
              You say this as if it's a universal fact; which it's not. If you mean the royal Kharabat in Kabul, they were classical musicians, who were trained in India, but not a "caste"

              Either way irrelevant to anything we discussed here.
              I don't know who are kharabuts but classical pashto singers are all from mirasi caste. Singing and dancing is looked down upon in caste system.
              Last edited by dawn; 11-30-2016, 04:51 PM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by dawn View Post
                I don't know who are kharabuts but classical pashto singers are all from mirasi caste. Singing and dancing is looked down upon in caste system.
                No such thing as Pashtun caste system.

                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                don’t try to be smart.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                  No such thing as Pashtun caste system.
                  I don't know about afghanis but in Pakistan there is caste system, pathan being one such caste. And pashto singers are from mirashi caste.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by dawn View Post
                    I don't know about afghanis but in Pakistan there is caste system, pathan being one such caste. And pashto singers are from mirashi caste.
                    Pathan are NOT a caste, they;'re an ethnic group. Pathan is what muck mouth Indics call Pashtuns.

                    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                    don’t try to be smart.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                      Pathan are NOT a caste, they;'re an ethnic group. Pathan is what muck mouth Indics call Pashtuns.
                      Not really, pashto singers are mirasis but not of ethnic pathan caste. You being afghani don't know much about Pakistan.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by dawn View Post
                        Not really, pashto singers are mirasis but not of ethnic pathan caste. You being afghani don't know much about Pakistan.
                        No such thing as caste among Pashtuns Tilla Jogian I've never even heard of mirasis, so hence it's not a Pashtun thing.

                        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                        don’t try to be smart.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                          No such thing as caste among Pashtuns Tilla Jogian I've never even heard of mirasis, so hence it's not a Pashtun thing.
                          And? just because you never heard of one doesn't mean much. I don't expect you being from USA to know all about habshis and afghanis let alone Pakistan.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by dawn View Post
                            And? just because you never heard of one doesn't mean much. I don't expect you being from USA to know all about habshis and afghanis let alone Pakistan.

                            This is from a self hating Indic that calls "Pathan" a caste and

                            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                            don’t try to be smart.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by dawn View Post
                              I don't know about afghanis but in Pakistan there is caste system, pathan being one such caste. And pashto singers are from mirashi caste.
                              What stupidness. Pathan is a caste and pashto singers are another caste? A caste within a caste? "Pathan" is not a caste, you idiot.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by dawn View Post
                                Not really, pashto singers are mirasis but not of ethnic pathan caste. You being afghani don't know much about Pakistan.
                                My brain hurts.

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