Pakistani's low self worth

[Friends of Baloch]

You will also never see a person in Turkey/Anatolia/Thrace with Turkic appearance as Turk emigrants of Seljuk and Ottoman times were absorbed by already existing population, their traits got diluted. The Tatars of Tataristan in Russia do not look like original Tatars/Mongols but are very Caucasian and European looking. You expect Turkic traits of few thousands settlers in medieval period to survive in an ocean like India?

This is false. Turkey, especially the interior of central Anatolia, has many Turks with Turkic looks. Just look at Erdogan, Davutoglu and so on they are clearly Turkic.

[Friends of Baloch]

Proves how worthless Pakistanis think of themselves…especially since a person or people that need the perception of others to evaluate their identity lacks self-esteem, self-respect and most of all is a slave of what others think of them. No wonder Pakistanis hates us Afghans--bc they need our approval--like a child needs parent's... in order to justify their self worth----Pakis are telling themselves---look we are burning a fire in land and People of Ghanzavi, Goris, Lodis, Suri, durranis and rest...we are not good for nothing people that come to being 70 years ago.lol

Exactly this.

[Win Butler]

Well, your example is not of religion so it is pointless to compare.
In Rig Veda, many modern Afghan regions are mentioned especially Kabul, Kurram etc. rivers which are tributaries of the Indus.
Many sources of that time mention them as Hindus, and many Hindu gods/statues are found in Afghanistan.

Ganesha the elephant god from Kabul/Gardez


Shiva's lingam from Afghanistan

Most of Afghanistan is mentioned in the Vendidad (Zoroastrian text part of the Avesta) and in Ferdowsi's Shahnamah as well. Airyanem Vaejah was likely located in the Hindu Kush region so it is important to all Indo-Iranian peoples.

If we compare the first chapter of the Vidēvdād with the passages of geographical interest that we come across mainly in the great yašts, we can conclude that the geographical area of Avesta was dominated by the Hindu Kush range at the center, the western boundary being marked by the districts of Margiana, Areia, and Drangiana, the eastern one by the Indo-Iranian frontier regions such as Gandhāra, Bunēr, the land of the “Seven Rivers.” Sogdiana and, possibly, Chorasmia (which, however, is at the extreme limits) mark the boundary to the north, Sīstān and Baluchistan to the south.

AVESTAN GEOGRAPHY – Encyclopaedia Iranica


Pashais are the biggest Dardic/Indo-Aryan population in Afghanistan and found in many provinces. All that Indic heritage belongs to them, not Punjabis.

[Win Butler]

[MENTION=17351]Friends of Baloch[/MENTION], Parsis are not mainly Indian. They are about 75% Persian 25% Indian genetically. On their paternal side they are overwhelmingly Iranian.

I believe Erdogan is of Georgian descent. Having a moustache doesn't mean you look Turkic!

[Friends of Baloch]

@Friends of Baloch, Parsis are not mainly Indian. They are about 75% Persian 25% Indian genetically. On their paternal side they are overwhelmingly Iranian.

I believe Erdogan is of Georgian descent. Having a moustache doesn't mean you look Turkic!

Erdogan is a typical square headed Turk. He is clearly not Georgian even if he has some Georgian descent.

Parsi males obviously have a Y-SNP that is Iranian in origin but that is not important. They have been mixed so much with Indians over the centuries to the point where they are largely indistinguishable from Indians racially.

Y-SNP in isolation does not define who a person is genetically / ancestrally. That is only one part of a persons root. SNP is not even the complete Y-DNA picture, let alone not saying anything about a person's X chromosome.

[Karachi]

Only in Kabulistan region, which was under rule of Hindu Shahis. In the same region you will find Buddhist artifacts and monuments of the same period, in overwhelmingly larger number than Hindu's , indicating that population was largely Buddhist under Hindu Shahis.

Agra city of India is founded by an Afghan sultan and Afghan monuments are found through out India, it doesnt mean Indian people are Afghans or India is an extension of Afghanistan.

Agra was not founded by Afghans, it has been around since Mahabharata, nor there are afghan monuments through out India, those are mughal monuments, stop speaking out of your behind and making a fool out of yourself

[Forreigner]

We should make a distinction between paractizing Hinduism/follower of Hinduism and a racially Indian....just like there are Blacks who are Muslim, it doesnt mean they are same race as Arabs who are the original/first Muslims.....

Its highly likely Hinduism and Buddism were both created inside Loy Afghanistan region....this would mean original Hindus and Buddhist were white Iranian peoples, not brown/black Indians, though these people get all the credit now, due to populations of the Iranian plateu switching to Islam and only the subcontinental converts have remained Hindu/Buddist...

It would be akin to a situation in middel East if Arabs left Islam, and some 1000 years later only Nigerians remained as the only Muslims...and these Nigerians then claimed themselves as the first/original Muslims and all of West Asia be ancient homeland/cultural hemisphere of Nigerians...

[Kakar-Wardak]

We should make a distinction between paractizing Hinduism/follower of Hinduism and a racially Indian....just like there are Blacks who are Muslim, it doesnt mean they are same race as Arabs who are the original/first Muslims.....

Its highly likely Hinduism and Buddism were both created inside Loy Afghanistan region....this would mean original Hindus and Buddhist were white Iranian peoples, not brown/black Indians, though these people get all the credit now, due to populations of the Iranian plateu switching to Islam and only the subcontinental converts have remained Hindu/Buddist...

It would be akin to a situation in middel East if Arabs left Islam, and only Nigerians remained as the only Muslims...Would Nigerians be remembered as the creator/original Muslims and all of West Asia be ancient homeland/cultural hemisphere of Nigerians?

Hinduism is native to Indus valley whilst buddhism is native to Nepal, the nepalese are hindus and most indus valley people are either muslim or sikh.

[Peshawer_222]

Agra was not founded by Afghans, it has been around since Mahabharata, nor there are afghan monuments through out India, those are mughal monuments, stop speaking out of your behind and making a fool out of yourself

If it was upto him he would say Paris and London were founded by afghan too .

[Samandri]

If it was upto him he would say Paris and London were founded by afghan too .

Punjabi, large number of towns through India are founded by Afghans/Pashtuns, should not be surprising for you and your kin Karachi as Afghans have ruled India in the past. For example Muzaffargarh town of your Punjab is founded by the Afghan ruler of Multan, Muzaffar Khan Saddozai.

And speaking of general knowledge , you curiously got silent when i informed you that "A" in Pakistan word stands for Afghania.........are you dumb-struck Desi-boy?

[Dovahkiin]

Most of Afghanistan is mentioned in the Vendidad (Zoroastrian text part of the Avesta) and in Ferdowsi's Shahnamah as well. Airyanem Vaejah was likely located in the Hindu Kush region so it is important to all Indo-Iranian peoples.



AVESTAN GEOGRAPHY – Encyclopaedia Iranica


Pashais are the biggest Dardic/Indo-Aryan population in Afghanistan and found in many provinces. All that Indic heritage belongs to them, not Punjabis.

You know, Vendidad also mentions Punjab (Hapta Hendu) as part of the sixteen nations.


"Northern valley of the seven Indus rivers** (Upper Indus Basin)
Gandhara (Waihind)***, Punjab and Kashmir in N. Pakistan & NW India"

Aryan Homeland, Airyana Vaeja, in the Avesta. Aryan lands and Zoroastrianism.

[Dovahkiin]

This is false. Turkey, especially the interior of central Anatolia, has many Turks with Turkic looks. Just look at Erdogan, Davutoglu and so on they are clearly Turkic.

Most Anatolian Turks don't have singificant East Asian or Turkic ancestry, atleast not as much to influence phenotype.

[Karachi]

Punjabi, large number of towns through India are founded by Afghans/Pashtuns, should not be surprising for you and your kin Karachi as Afghans have ruled India in the past. For example Muzaffargarh town of your Punjab is founded by the Afghan ruler of Multan, Muzaffar Khan Saddozai.

And speaking of general knowledge , you curiously got silent when i informed you that "A" in Pakistan word stands for Afghania.........are you dumb-struck Desi-boy?

Idiot, so when was Agra founded by afghans, you clearly made a fool out of yourself, and this shows how much you know

[Dovahkiin]

Punjabi, large number of towns through India are founded by Afghans/Pashtuns, should not be surprising for you and your kin Karachi as Afghans have ruled India in the past. For example Muzaffargarh town of your Punjab is founded by the Afghan ruler of Multan, Muzaffar Khan Saddozai.

And speaking of general knowledge , you curiously got silent when i informed you that "A" in Pakistan word stands for Afghania.........are you dumb-struck Desi-boy?

Most of these South Punjabi Pashtuns now speak Seraiki and are into the Seraiki nationalism/Seraiki province and are very Punjab-ized.

[Samandri]

Idiot, so when was Agra founded by afghans, you clearly made a fool out of yourself, and this shows how much you know

Moron , Agra city was founded by Sikander Lodi in 1505 and was made the new capital. This fact is confirmed by Mughal sources like Ain-i-Akbari, Tabqat-i-Akbari, Muntakhib-ul-tawarikh etc.........the region by name of Agra already existed, but the famous city which later became capital of Mughal empire, was founded by Afghans.