Turkey loves Pakistan lol

[Azmal]

Whats up with your whining ? You being butthurt doesnt make a difference to a Pakistan . Let me make you more butthurt . Its the 25th largest economy PPP wise and a global military power .

Have you been to turkey?I have been there and they respect the hell out of Pakistanis .

What you mean 25th economy PPP wise? In term of GDP? GDP is not a good indicator of success, a country with a high GDP can be a country in which only 1% of the population benefits from the growth of GDP while 99% of the population lives in poverty. GDP doesn't take into account literacy rate, number of years of education, life expectancy, infant mortality, civil liberties (ex: freedom of speech), number of people in poverty.
Here is are some facts and comparison between Pakistan—a country that has cash the blood of Afghans for past 40 years and Afghanistan—a country was totally ruined—including but not limited to 2 million death, 1.5 million war handicaps, 1 million widows, 6 million refugees and tens of millions of lands mines.


http://country-facts.findthedata.com...an-vs-Pakistan

Almost identical...except the Intentional Homicide rate per 100,000 people Pakistan is 7.8 while Afghanistan is 6.6---homicide rate also takes in account the ISI brainwashed Madrassa kids into suicide bombers that are being sent to Afghanistan for past 15 years.

[Peshawer_222]

What you mean 25th economy PPP wise? In term of GDP? GDP is not a good indicator of success, a country with a high GDP can be a country in which only 1% of the population benefits from the growth of GDP while 99% of the population lives in poverty. GDP doesn't take into account literacy rate, number of years of education, life expectancy, infant mortality, civil liberties (ex: freedom of speech), number of people in poverty.
Here is are some facts and comparison between Pakistan—a country that has cash the blood of Afghans for past 40 years and Afghanistan—a country was totally ruined—including but not limited to 2 million death, 1.5 million war handicaps, 1 million widows, 6 million refugees and tens of millions of lands mines.


http://country-facts.findthedata.com...an-vs-Pakistan

Almost identical...except the Intentional Homicide rate per 100,000 people Pakistan is 7.8 while Afghanistan is 6.6---homicide rate also takes in account the ISI brainwashed Madrassa kids into suicide bombers that are being sent to Afghanistan for past 15 years.

Are you braindead comparing Pakistan and Afghanistan ? Pakistan is atleast 100 years ahead in everything . You are free to tag me when you have cities like Karachi , Lahore , Islamabad or industrial centres like Faisalabad and Sialkot .

OK leave GDP lets see on per capita terms .

Pakistan GDP per capita = $5100
Afghanistan = $1600

Nominal GDP per capita (IMF 2016)

Pakistan = $1600
Afghanistan = $527

Publications - Credit Suisse

Mean wealth per adult

Pakistan = $4450
India = $ 4300
Bangladesh = $ 220
Afghanistan = NA (Am guessing 5 times less than Pakistan)

So an Average Pakistani is probably 3-5 times more richer than an Average Afghan .

Now lets come to the basics

Science

Most scientific citations per country

SJR - International Science Ranking

Pakistan ranked 43 10000 citable documents
Afghanistan ranked 162 63 citable documents

Absolutely no Comparison Afghanistan is basically in stoneage

Education

Six Pakistani institutes among world's top 8 universities - The Express Tribune

6 Pakistani Universities in QS top 800 world ranking

I am not even sure if Afghanistan has a decent university . Again no comparison

Quality of Life

Pakistan ranked 92 in Happiness index while Afghanistan is 158

Sanitation

Improved sanitation facilities (% of population with access) | Data

Pakistan 64 % of population
Afghanistan 32 %

Internet users per 100 people

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.NET.USER.P2

Pakistan 18
Afghanistan 8

Corruption

http://www.transparency.org/country

Pakistan 117/168
Afghanistan 166/168 ( probably the most corrupt country in the world )

Military and geopolitically Pakistan is a regional power and Afghanistan is irrelevant . If you want more index rankings I can give you those . As you can see there is absolutely no Comparison . Pakistan is better off comparing with Indonesia , Vietnam or India rather than an LDC like Afghanistan .

[marwat]

I do I just gave you the facts in another thread . You should check that out . You guys are good in things like opium , chars and afeem leave the complicated things to other people .

Pakistan PPP total = $ 1 trillion (25th largest in the world )
Per capita PPP = $ 5100 ( Somewhere in 120's still better than 70-80 other countries)


Corruption Index of Pakistan has improved tremendously over the past 5 years . It was ranked in 130's before it is ranked 117 now . Compared to Afghanistan which is the most corrupt country in the world (No comparison really )

Exports have been declining because the global economy is in decline . It will rise again soon .

Pakistanis continue to be happier than Indians: UN report - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

ROME: Pakistanis are happier than Indians once again, according to findings of a United Nations-sanctioned report released on Wednesday.

Out of a total 157 countries that were evaluated, Pakistan came in at 92, while India was placed at 118. Both countries have slipped as last year's rankings had Pakistan at 81 and India at 117.

Aiming to "survey the scientific underpinnings of measuring and understanding subjective well-being," the report, now in its fourth edition, ranks countries by happiness levels using factors such as:

Read: I can see Pakistan rise once more.

GDP per capita, healthy years of life expectancy, social support (as measured by having someone to count on in times of trouble), trust (as measured by a perceived absence of corruption in government and business), perceived freedom to make life decisions, and generosity (as measured by recent donations).

Differences in social support, incomes and healthy life expectancy are the three most important factors.

Pakistan at 92 and Afghanistan 158 ( second last only to syria)


Publications - Credit Suisse

Download the 2015 wealth Index and See the difference .

Global Rankings 2�16 | Logistics Performance Index

Logistics Index

Pakistan at 68 and Afghanistan at 150 .

Happy to educate your kind any day . Keep on burning

Here we go again, pako you have insects in your kulme, stop dodging the question. You want to tell us about your economy, explain the things I have asked about. Your export are declining because pako can't compete.
Why are you telking mw that pako are happier than indian? What a stupid **** you are. If being happier than indian is a criteria for rising economy. Then
Pakistan ranks second for most selfie deaths - The Express Tribune
This may be the criteria for being second worst failed country.
Anyway I will school you tomorrow about you country economy when I am home. It will be fun don't run away by then. Ok pako

[Peshawer_222]

Here we go again, pako you have insects in your kulme, stop dodging the question. You want to tell us about your economy, explain the things I have asked about. Your export are declining because pako can't compete.
Why are you telking mw that pako are happier than indian? What a stupid **** you are. If being happier than indian is a criteria for rising economy. Then
Pakistan ranks second for most selfie deaths - The Express Tribune
This may be the criteria for being second worst failed country.
Anyway I will school you tomorrow about you country economy when I am home. It will be fun don't run away by then. Ok pako

Like I said you are an afghan you shouldn't be talking about complicated stuff like economy . Your total economy is a paltry $ 8 billion ( 18 billion in total but 50 % of it is from chars and drugs ) . $ 8 billion seriously ? That might be the output of 2-3 factories in Sialkot .

Let me educate you again And I think I have quoted enough articles from 2016 . I will quote them for you again .

http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/Economy/Pakistan-Asia-s-next-growth-engine

Dailytimes | Pak’s economic growth soars to highest mark in eight year: WB

KSE 1: Move over, India. Pakistan is the hottest equity market in South Asia — Quartz

Pakistan rated among top emerging economies - The Express Tribune

You can talk about economy when you can atleast have a stock exchange in Kabul .

[asif86]

Only weak countries give a damn what others think about them . Do you think israel or russia gives a damn what others think about them? Pakistan is not USA but its 100 years ahead of your country and better than your dear friend India.

Why are you comparing with afghanistan when you know there is no comparison between pakistan and afghanistan.We are 100 years ahead of them.

[Azmal]

Are you braindead comparing Pakistan and Afghanistan ? Pakistan is atleast 100 years ahead in everything . You are free to tag me when you have cities like Karachi , Lahore , Islamabad or industrial centres like Faisalabad and Sialkot .
OK leave GDP lets see on per capita terms .

Pakistan GDP per capita = $5100
Afghanistan = $1600

Nominal GDP per capita (IMF 2016)

Pakistan = $1600
Afghanistan = $527

Publications - Credit Suisse

Mean wealth per adult

Pakistan = $4450
India = $ 4300
Bangladesh = $ 220
Afghanistan = NA (Am guessing 5 times less than Pakistan)

So an Average Pakistani is probably 3-5 times more richer than an Average Afghan .

Now lets come to the basics

Science

Most scientific citations per country

SJR - International Science Ranking

Pakistan ranked 43 10000 citable documents
Afghanistan ranked 162 63 citable documents

Absolutely no Comparison Afghanistan is basically in stoneage

Education

Six Pakistani institutes among world's top 8�� universities - The Express Tribune

6 Pakistani Universities in QS top 800 world ranking

I am not even sure if Afghanistan has a decent university . Again no comparison

Quality of Life

Pakistan ranked 92 in Happiness index while Afghanistan is 158

Sanitation

Improved sanitation facilities (% of population with access) | Data

Pakistan 64 % of population
Afghanistan 32 %

Internet users per 100 people

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.NET.USER.P2

Pakistan 18
Afghanistan 8

Corruption

http://www.transparency.org/country

Pakistan 117/168
Afghanistan 166/168 ( probably the most corrupt country in the world )

Military and geopolitically Pakistan is a regional power and Afghanistan is irrelevant . If you want more index rankings I can give you those . As you can see there is absolutely no Comparison . Pakistan is better off comparing with Indonesia , Vietnam or India rather than an LDC like Afghanistan .

GDP doesn't take into account Individuals wellbeing, education, health, distribution of income. Average Pakistanis are being cornholed by military, corrupt politician and their feudal lords---Sindhi's worships their Wadera's and Punjos their Chudari/Maliks.

A good measurement indexes which more accurately reflect a societies well being is : Word Index of Social Progress (WISP) which gauges school enrolment, life expectancy, and external national debts.
Check war torn Afghanistan and Pakistan—leching blood of Afghans for past 40-Pakistan…ranked 132 and 131 respectively.
http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/global-index/

In term of poverty……
Third of Pakistanis are living below poverty line.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1250694
Almost identical to war torn Afghanistan.
http://borgenproject.org/poverty-in-afghanistan/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._literacy_rate
Literacy rate… Pakistan 56%
Afghanistan 38% --keeping in mind 3-5 million(out of 25-30 million population) Afghans refuges around the world were the most literate ones. In addition to thousands of schools that has been burn by Pakistani train savages…more than 300 in last two months alone.
http://www.samaa.tv/international/20...h-afghanistan/

Ground realities of Pakistan where 1/3 of mothers and babies sleep hungry at nights, girls are sold in prostitution—Hermandi, caste system and federal system—Mukhtar Mahi..Jahadi culture where men strapping bombs to their heads or bicycles have long passed the signposts of dignity and honor that you were talking about.

[Azmal]

Here we go again, pako you have insects in your kulme, stop dodging the question. You want to tell us about your economy, explain the things I have asked about. Your export are declining because pako can't compete.
Why are you telking mw that pako are happier than indian? What a stupid **** you are. If being happier than indian is a criteria for rising economy. Then
Pakistan ranks second for most selfie deaths - The Express Tribune
This may be the criteria for being second worst failed country.
Anyway I will school you tomorrow about you country economy when I am home. It will be fun don't run away by then. Ok pako

Indeed, check there news...always wondering what other thinks of them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_BZZzRSJyY
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fiuys9jBYD8


Do Arabs HATE PAKISTANi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbyoXbZUNcM

[Peshawer_222]

GDP doesn't take into account Individuals wellbeing, education, health, distribution of income. Average Pakistanis are being cornholed by military, corrupt politician and their feudal lords---Sindhi's worships their Wadera's and Punjos their Chudari/Maliks.

A good measurement indexes which more accurately reflect a societies well being is : Word Index of Social Progress (WISP) which gauges school enrolment, life expectancy, and external national debts.
Check war torn Afghanistan and Pakistan—leching blood of Afghans for past 40-Pakistan…ranked 132 and 131 respectively.
http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/global-index/

In term of poverty……
Third of Pakistanis are living below poverty line.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1250694
Almost identical to war torn Afghanistan.
http://borgenproject.org/poverty-in-afghanistan/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._literacy_rate
Literacy rate… Pakistan 56%
Afghanistan 38% --keeping in mind 3-5 million(out of 25-30 million population) Afghans refuges around the world were the most literate ones. In addition to thousands of schools that has been burn by Pakistani train savages…more than 300 in last two months alone.
http://www.samaa.tv/international/20...h-afghanistan/

Ground realities of Pakistan where 1/3 of mothers and babies sleep hungry at nights, girls are sold in prostitution—Hermandi, caste system and federal system—Mukhtar Mahi..Jahadi culture where men strapping bombs to their heads or bicycles have long passed the signposts of dignity and honor that you were talking about.

You dodged all of my questions . Where does Afghanistan stand in Science and Education? How many world class universities it has? How many scientific research is done ? What percent of population has electricity , clean water or internet ? There is no comparison .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

Data is collected from people in over 150 countries. Each variable measured reveals a populated-weighted average score on a scale running from 0 to 10 that is tracked over time and compared against other countries. These variables currently include: real GDP per capita, social support, healthy life expectancy, freedom to make life choices, generosity, and perceptions of corruption. Each country is also compared against a hypothetical nation called Dystopia.

Pakistan is ranked 92 while Afghanistan is 154

Life expectancy in Afghanistan is 50-55 while it is 68 here .

http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/policy/cdp/ldc_info.shtml

List of least developed countries by united nations . Afghanistan ofcourse is mentioned and Pakistan is not there .

What is the household income of Afghanistan? How big is its middle class? Its probably one of the poorest countries in the world whom are you kidding comparing it with Pakistan . We have the 18th biggest middle class in the world .

http://tribune.com.pk/story/973649/pakistan-has-18th-largest-middle-class-in-the-world-report/

Your total economic output is not bigger than Peshawar .

Countries by Economic freedom Pakistan is 122/178 and Afghanistan wasn't even ranked and put alongside countries like Somalia .

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

I can go on and on here about any index you like . Afghanistan in last 5 of any index there is .

[Dovahkiin]

GDP doesn't take into account Individuals wellbeing, education, health, distribution of income. Average Pakistanis are being cornholed by military, corrupt politician and their feudal lords---Sindhi's worships their Wadera's and Punjos their Chudari/Maliks.

The most extreme form of this is in Balochistan, with the Sardars and Mirs and KPK isn't exempt from this as there are many such political/landowning families like Sherpaos, Saifullahs, Hotis etc. so singling out Punjabis and Sindhis for this doesn't make sense.

[Karachi]

Only weak countries give a damn what others think about them . Do you think israel or russia gives a damn what others think about them? Pakistan is not USA but its 100 years ahead of your country and better than your dear friend India .

Pakistanis continue to be happier than Indians: UN report - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Pakistanis continue to be happier than Indians: UN report
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ROME: Pakistanis are happier than Indians once again, according to findings of a United Nations-sanctioned report released on Wednesday.

Out of a total 157 countries that were evaluated, Pakistan came in at 92, while India was placed at 118. Both countries have slipped as last year's rankings had Pakistan at 81 and India at 117.

Aiming to "survey the scientific underpinnings of measuring and understanding subjective well-being," the report, now in its fourth edition, ranks countries by happiness levels using factors such as:

Read: I can see Pakistan rise once more.

GDP per capita, healthy years of life expectancy, social support (as measured by having someone to count on in times of trouble), trust (as measured by a perceived absence of corruption in government and business), perceived freedom to make life decisions, and generosity (as measured by recent donations).

Differences in social support, incomes and healthy life expectancy are the three most important factors.

Pakistan 92 , India 118 and Your dear Afghanistan is 158 (second lowest only surpassed by Syria)

Pakistanis are among the most depressed people I have seen in the world, Indians are actually much happier despite being poor. the reason for pakistani depression is extremism in society, which has grown like a cancer in pretty much all parts of the society. Back in the 60, 70's when my parents grew up, it was much better, because the society was much more free then.

[Peshawer_222]

Pakistanis are among the most depressed people I have seen in the world, Indians are actually much happier despite being poor. the reason for pakistani depression is extremism in society, which has grown like a cancer in pretty much all parts of the society. Back in the 60, 70's when my parents grew up, it was much better, because the society was much more free then.

Depends whom you meet . I find them quite opposite to what you said .

[Shapur]

The most extreme form of this is in Balochistan, with the Sardars and Mirs and KPK isn't exempt from this as there are many such political/landowning families like Sherpaos, Saifullahs, Hotis etc. so singling out Punjabis and Sindhis for this doesn't make sense.

The Sherpao, Saifullahs and other families rose to prominance because of their sub serviance to British Raj. Among pashtuns there is no concept of Sardars, waderas etc. Of course there are rich and poor in Pashtun society just like every where else but even a rich person has to sit on the ground when attending a Jirga next to a poor Pashtun and they are all subjected to the same pashtunwali law. You can google egalitarianism among pashtuns and the articles will explain what I mean. Things are changing though with urbanization, break down of tribal structures being replaced by the state or religious mullahs etc.

[Dovahkiin]

The Sherpao, Saifullahs and other families rose to prominance because of their sub serviance to British Raj. Among pashtuns there is no concept of Sardars, waderas etc. Of course there are rich and poor in Pashtun society just like every where else but even a rich person has to sit on the ground when attending a Jirga next to a poor Pashtun and they are all subjected to the same pashtunwali law. You can google egalitarianism among pashtuns and the articles will explain what I mean. Things are changing though with urbanization, break down of tribal structures being replaced by the state or religious mullahs etc.

I know Pashtun culture is egalitarian, but it's not as if they are totally exempt from this, whether due to the British or not. And most of this is reserved to Balochistan with the Tumandari system, which is an extreme version of this and Sindh with waderos. Central Punjab does not have much of these, as individual landholdings aren't that large.

[Samandri]

I know Pashtun culture is egalitarian, but it's not as if they are totally exempt from this, whether due to the British or not. And most of this is reserved to Balochistan with the Tumandari system, which is an extreme version of this and Sindh with waderos. Central Punjab does not have much of these, as individual landholdings aren't that large.

I have to agree with you on this. The extreme oppressive kind of "wadera" with very large holdings found in Sindh and South Punjab, is largely product of Baloch rule......the Chauhdries or equivalents , is product of early Turkish rule of Sultanate period......in Tughlaq period sources, word "Chauhdri" is mentioned , and they were the local headmen who were administering the villages for the sultanate....they were placed under "amiran-i-sada". I read a book about Tughlaqs and this entire administration setup was discussed in detail with all the names of the contemporary sources given, and i recall one source was famous Ibn-i-batuta who mentions 'Chauhdries".

The Saifullahs owe their rise to British. They were nobodies before 1900.The Nawabs of Tank, were tribal chieftains but became "Nawabs" due to their allegiance to British. Many of these "Khans" were 'Khan Bahadur' of British.....they are not be confused with the Maliks of Pashtuns.......Once upon time these headmen of the clans used to sit in circle with villagers. But under British and Pakistan, they became some thing else. Saifullahs are not be seen in public.Yet when election comes, they have to visit each and every village and beg for votes or bribe people (votes are sold in Lakki Marwat).....so even though there are very wealthy and powerful people like Saifullahs in Lakki Marwat, people are not their subjugates like they are to waderas to Sindh and Balochistan.

[Dovahkiin]

I have to agree with you on this. The extreme oppressive kind of "wadera" with very large holdings found in Sindh and South Punjab, is largely product of Baloch rule......the Chauhdries or equivalents , is product of early Turkish rule of Sultanate period......in Tughlaq period sources, word "Chauhdri" is mentioned , and they were the local headmen who were administering the villages for the sultanate....they were placed under "amiran-i-sada". I read a book about Tughlaqs and this entire administration setup was discussed in detail with all the names of the contemporary sources given, and i recall one source was famous Ibn-i-batuta who mentions 'Chauhdries".

This 'oppressive Malik/Chaudhry' of Punjab is more of a cultural meme based on dramas/fiction rather than reality as most landholdings in Punjab are not that big so as to facilitate that.
Even in Sindh and South Punjab 'saeein/sardar' culture is now practiced by many Sindhi tribes like Soomros and in South Punjab by Khars who are Jatts but this is mostly Baloch in origin.

The Baloch system of Sardars or Tumandari system is one of the most hierarchial ones in modern times with individual Baloch chiefs holdings hundrerds of thousands of acres of land. It is a tradition among them to touch the feet of the chief of tribe as a greeting or place their turban on the Sardar's feet.

Here you can see 'Wasu Khan' who was famous Baloch singer singing for his tribe chief and touching his feet

Mir Hazar khan bijarani With Wasoo Ghajani Uplod by Jhan zeb bijarani - YouTube