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So there are strings attached on who you allow America to violate your airspace and kill, as long as they are not Paki nationals but who cares if they take Paki national civilians with them, right?Originally posted by Orakzai View PostLike I said, Pakistani is a stretch. I don't consider an Afghan with a Pakistani CNIC a Pakistani. I don't call that Afghan's Jihadi brother from Tunisia or Chechnya or Uzbekistan a Pakistani either. Maybe you'd welcome those guys with open arms, but I don't. That's where the problem lies I guess.
You are detracting from the original point of Pakistan allowing its sovereignty to be violated. First you say it was the past gov't who was complicit now that it continues and the current military has no response, its well....they are uzbeks, arabs, blah, blah, and blah so for some reason it is respectable for a strong nuclear nation like Pakistan to be assulted with drones with no response.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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No reason? I find it more disturbing and outrageous that there are people in my country who want to gun my children and behead me for not believing in their twisted version of Islam than I am by American drones aimed at killing those people. You being an Afghan, will most likely not understand this sentiment, given that your government is filled with those kind of people.Originally posted by randolph85 View PostSo there are strings attached on who you allow America to violate your airspace and kill, as long as they are not Paki nationals but who cares if they take Paki national civilians with them, right?
You are detracting from the original point of Pakistan allowing its sovereignty to be violated. First you say it was the past gov't who was complicit now that it continues and the current military has no response, its well....they are uzbeks, arabs, blah, blah, and blah so for some reason it is respectable for a strong nuclear nation like Pakistan to be assulted with drones with no response.
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Good for them. Pakis will provide whatever they can for some bucks, I bet not much, so it aint too much of a big thing you are going retard about. What about the smile on your tv channel in Kabul? (Sigh like a retard again).Originally posted by Orakzai View PostNah, I don't think you do. There are already a few million of your proud countrymen living with Pakistani CNICs. They'd jump for real citizenship.
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Considering the fact that your people are either Hindu or crazy pretend Muslims, I would say your fears are well founded.Originally posted by Orakzai View PostNo reason? I find it more disturbing and outrageous that there are people in my country who want to gun my children and behead me for not believing in their twisted version of Islam than I am by American drones aimed at killing those people. You being an Afghan, will most likely not understand this sentiment, given that your government is filled with those kind of people.
You don't live in Pakistan but if you did I would say good luck and watch your back.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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No there is a big difference. That difference once again, is that if it were not for this war in Afghanistan and it were not for the Pakis feeling the heat - Nek Mohmad Wazir would still be riding his jeep around that region and hailed as a hero.Originally posted by Orakzai View PostUnfortunate, but I fail to see what's your point. No state is innocent. You, being an Afghan whose state has been involved with major drug-traffickers, child-rapists and warlords should definitely know that. For every one journalist killed in Pakistan, how many journalists have been brutally tortured in a prison by some ex-Soviet strongman, huh?
The warlord and the Afghan governmental officials have their own retarded narrative but its one that is obvious.
The reason why ISI and the military had Rahmatullah killed was that he exposed collusion on the part of the Pakis against their own denizens.
The self same citizenary that cheered on Talibs, Mullah Omar, and Nek Mohmad and the same military men in the field who called them holy warriors suddenly felt it inconvenient to do so.
So they invented/plagiarized a label (i.e. terrorist) and applied it so that they could keep getting their money that partially funnels into the pockets of the feudals and partially into toward its intended purposes.
THey also were dumb enough to think that these people would just go march across the border like automatons where the deep state's strategy has been: "we are fighting a war of attrition - sometimes we will sacrifice a few of these guys for appearances and we will also send them to be cannon fodder and we will also keep the supply lines open to make money and to also keep up appearances."
Instead these guys turned their guns on you guys because they asked you, politely first, to stop getting drunk all the time but more importantly, to stop shipping arms that were being used to murder them, to their adversary. They threatened to create internal conflict and you morons flipped a coin which was that you could maintain internal stability and keep killing your own citizens, especially since they were disenfranchized ethnics/tribals.
The fat, biryani eating, fickle populace also began to consume the 24 hour army approved news cycle that reprogrammed them to view the world in this oxymoronic, paradoxic way compared to the 1990s and 1980s where the deep state sang a different tune.
So what it boils down to is that
1. Your soldiers are not brave - they are murderous bi-tches that seem to take pride in abusing their own citizens
2. Your government is horribly corrupt and still feudal dominated
3. You invented a narrative to feed the congitive dissonance."2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote
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