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  • #46
    Originally posted by marwat View Post
    in geography Afghanistan never have an access to the sea. those who had access to sea was not able even single time to behold the Afghan blow and always lost it. but then again Afghanistan never used sea for big trade or from strategic point of view.
    Your ignorance is beyond belief.

    Your blabbering nonsense that has nothing to do with the debate.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
      I don't think you understood my point. If the embargo on Iran is lifted, other countries are allowed to trade with Iran and use their sea ports. Which means Afghanistan has an alternative to Karachi.
      There is only one thing of value you can offer to Iran and The only thing you have accomplished with their assistance is the destruction of your own country.

      Other than that you offer nothing strategically nor resource wise which is why they have allowed the Taliban to open up an office on their soil because the geography pashtuns occupy has value to them.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        There is only one thing of value you can offer to Iran and The only thing you have accomplished with their assistance is the destruction of your own country.

        Other than that you offer nothing strategically nor resource wise which is why they have allowed the Taliban to open up an office on their soil because the geography pashtuns occupy has value to them.
        Taliban take Iranian weapons to kill Afghan people.



        The IRGC supports nearly any anti American terrorist organization in the region, they and the Taliban both have an interest in continuing the war.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
          Taliban take Iranian weapons to kill Afghan people.

          http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-bac...rms-1434065528

          The IRGC supports nearly any anti American terrorist organization in the region, they and the Taliban both have an interest in continuing the war.

          And they're going to use those weapons on your people. Which makes it bizarre you have these doting eyes towards Iran.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Brown Skinned Savage View Post
            And they're going to use those weapons on your people. Which makes it bizarre you have these doting eyes towards Iran.
            Iran and Pakistan can give Afghanistan access to the sea, but that doesn't imply they are our friends. It's the job of a good leader to balance these two dishonest neighbors and minimize their stranglehold over Afghanistan.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
              Iran and Pakistan can give Afghanistan access to the sea, but that doesn't imply they are our friends. It's the job of a good leader to balance these two dishonest neighbors and minimize their stranglehold over Afghanistan.
              hahah were you not arab? how can you be Afghan or even pure Pashtun? :D
              To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                Iran and Pakistan can give Afghanistan access to the sea, but that doesn't imply they are our friends. It's the job of a good leader to balance these two dishonest neighbors and minimize their stranglehold over Afghanistan.
                Iran and Pakistan dont care about you Ghul. How are you going to balance them when you have no leverage. Prostituting yourself for the white man is going to help you long term.

                If you want access to the sea, you have to take it. Its best for your people to work with pashtuns. Your persiofacism will prolong the suffering of your people.
                Last edited by khushal; 07-28-2015, 01:28 PM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  Iran and Pakistan dont care about you Ghul. How are you going to balance them when you have no leverage. Prostituting yourself for the white man is going to help you long term.

                  If you want access to the sea, you have to take it. Its best for your people to work with pashtuns. Your persiofacism will prolong the suffering of your people.
                  Pashtuns have been living under the boots of foreigners since the very start of Afghanistan, 100 years ago. They can not help themselves, nor others. Only to drag TajiksUzbeksHazaras down with them.
                  Last edited by Al-Afghani; 07-28-2015, 07:00 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Second round of the talks will be held in Pakistan.

                    PESHAWAR, Pakistan — Afghan government officials and Taliban representatives are set to meet again for a second round of peace talks on Friday, two Pakistani government officials said Tuesday.
                    The meetings, to be held in Pakistan, are expected to be more substantive than the previous round of talks, raising hopes that the two sides will be able to find a way to end the conflict in Afghanistan, the senior Pakistani officials said.
                    The first round of talks was also held in Pakistan on July 7. But the entire process “is an Afghan-led and Afghan-owned peace initiative,” said one Pakistani official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity “out of deference” to the Afghans. “We are here to facilitate.”
                    “The second round will be more substantive and detailed,” the senior government official said. “The fact that the two sides are reconvening in less than a month is encouraging.”
                    But another official cautioned about raising “the expectations bar too high.”
                    “This is just the beginning of a long process,” the official said, who also requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press. “Both sides will have to understand each other’s positions and make a determined effort to meet halfway.”
                    “We expect both sides to discuss confidence-building measures, including steps to bring down the level of violence before they move on to discuss the more complex issues to end the conflict in Afghanistan,” he said. He said that Afghan officials seemed ready to hold open discussions with the Taliban.
                    The official said that efforts were being made to persuade the Taliban to send more senior representatives to the talks. “If this happens, the Afghan government would also raise the level of their delegation,” he said.
                    In the first round of talks, the Afghan government was represented by Hekmat Khalil Karzai, the deputy foreign minister, and the Taliban delegation was led by Mullah Abbas Durrani.
                    Asked about reports of a rift within the Taliban ranks over the peace talks, the official said there could be some groups that oppose them. “There are people who want to talk, and there could be people who would want to fight,” the official said.
                    “But the group that has the largest number of fighters on the ground and is able to make an impact will have the sway,” the official said. “And that is the mainstream group that is holding the talks.”


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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                      Pashtuns have been living under the boots of foreigners since the very start of Afghanistan, 100 years ago. They can not help themselves, nor others. Only to drag TajiksUzbeksHazaras down with them.
                      AUYAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      Maybe you can move back to Arabia, Mongolia and Iran if Pashtuns drag you down.

                      Bye bye. Take care quest hope you liked your 1300 long visit in our holy and noble lands.
                      To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
                        AUYAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                        Maybe you can move back to Arabia, Mongolia and Iran if Pashtuns drag you down.

                        Bye bye. Take care quest hope you liked your 1300 long visit in our holy and noble lands.
                        The 15+ million TajiksUzbeksHazaras will go and take their land with them, so be careful what you wish for.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                          The 15+ million TajiksUzbeksHazaras will go and take their land with them, so be careful what you wish for.
                          GO its your free choice. We Pashtuns has not forced you to stay on our lands. You came TO OUR NOBLE LANDS fleeing the savage Arabs, mongolism, and Hellenism and searching for a better life, learn the difference. The thing is our pure, noble and golden hearted ancestors welcomed you and sheltered you from savagery, injustice and SAVED you. Otherwise you would not exist.

                          Mr half arab! What land? You think you own something inside our Pashtunistan/Ariana? Haha boy you dreaming? :D
                          Last edited by Loy Afghanistan; 07-29-2015, 11:17 AM.
                          To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
                            We Pashtuns has not forced you to stay on our lands.
                            Actually this part is not true. The Afghan rulers of the past incorporated non Pashtun land without giving the people a say in the matter. Today this would be considered illegal of course.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                              Pashtuns have been living under the boots of foreigners since the very start of Afghanistan, 100 years ago. They can not help themselves, nor others. Only to drag TajiksUzbeksHazaras down with them.
                              100 years ago is when the brits labeled it the graveyard of empires.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Al-Afghani View Post
                                Actually this part is not true. The Afghan rulers of the past incorporated non Pashtun land without giving the people a say in the matter. Today this would be considered illegal of course.
                                This is persiofacist fantasy. You guys have too much false pride in nothing to be proud of. Your people know better than to be fooled by empty slogans that has nothing to back it up which is why in Badakhshan and other northern areas, People are aligning with Taliban to prevent persiofacist from destroying their own people. You have no long term survival strategy. The US will not fund you forever which is why they are begging the taliban for talks and IRan is not only recognizing the taliban but aiding them. The mullahs in Iran are not persiofacists like yourself. You have no allies.

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