Islamic State seizes territory from the Taliban, for the first time

[Badlun]

I love the idealism of Loy Afghanistan and his pristine love for Pashtuns and at the same time I love the realism of Brown Savage. The truth is in-between the two. Pashtuns are a great, ancient ,gallant, unique and exceptional ethnic group but at the same time simpleton rather stupid, beggars, uneducated, ignorant , arrogant and unrealistic people.

They were defeated by many and they also defeated many. They were ruled by others but they also ruled others. Rulers like Shershah and poet-warriors like Khushal Baba are our pride.

Today what we need is to defeat Islamism, reform Pashtunwali and get modern education without losing our basic traditions and cultural traits and make Pashto a great language of the world.

[Insight]

correct.
http://dev.thedailystar.net/world/is...anistan-105616

With regards to this article, Afghan officials also said they retook several districts from Taliban insurgents only to have other news organizations reject this claim. In my opinion, judging from past and current record of lies and misinformation, Afghan officials claims about ISIS seizing territory in Afghanistan is not true.

[HalloIsBack]

You realise, you are talking from the bull's ass right? How could the people of Afghanistan/Ariana survive its more than 5000-8000 year of its RICH and powerful history? How could it survive and DEFEND off hordes of barbaric invasions from Alexander, the Arabs, mongolism-turks, Punjabis, English savages etc. And in modern time within 40 years fight against 2 super powers it barely can hold off. It has devastated and destroyed our WHOLE Noble Pashtun REGION!

It seems that you think Red cross, UN, etc was available 5000-80 years ago? Gimme a break please, it make some people here laugh at you! I am not blaming the devastation of my noble lands and people solely on the foreigners but we got a lot of traitors and
parasites just because of the different ethnicity living inside Afghanistan
today. There is no clear unification if you look, and agendas/ideology's are to diverse.

The noble and powerful ancestors of mine should never allowed these foreign people settle here on the first place and give them freedom to shape our noble lands. Surely they don't deserve today. With all these ethnic groups repaying Pashtuns for its hospitality and mercy with a knife on the back.

Afghanistan has not ALWAYS been lived of foreign AID. We don't even need it, because IT MAKES US WEAK. Look at IRAN it become more strong than ever with all the sanctions against it. "Iran supress its own people" Give me a break, I talked to many Iranians, and majority knows its necessary for the greater good or the foreigners will divide and eat them like they done to other countries specially Afghanistan. Only some Iranian faggots, traitors, and Shah parast who like YOLO style western style is against it.

In the 19 century, when Russia and British filth played the Great Game Loy Afghanistan was the chessboard. They corrupted and wanted to BUY Loy Afghanistan, and mostly UK cut off Loy Afghanistan's resources lines etc. Even had 3 huge invasion war Against Loy Afghanistan where they lost DEARLY! The "Mighty" British Empire who the sun never set had its WAR MACHINE raped by the noble AFGHANS not once BUT 3 major times, like EVERY single barbaric invasions before it. Mostly I blame the coward panjabis/hindus today's porkistanis that was in their army for their looses, very easy competition for the noble Pashtun warriors.

Please you seems to be some kind of brainwashed European that some how thinks Afghanistan or its PEOPLE IS SOMEHOW WEAK. Well let me CLEAR this for you. Afghanistan/Pashtunistan and my ancient family line have survived and surpassed thousands of empires/states with its noble cultural, language, traditions and mostly of its homogeneous ethnicity INTACT! Even with 80+ nations inside Afghanistan today, it will survive this bloody 100 year bad luck time line and the pure Pashtuns will live on with pride, honour, and its SOUL INTACT, despite how the rest of the world is being shaped by the Americanised Hollywood freak new globalisation.

TO be exactly CLEAR, there is NOT one single COUNTRY on this planet could survived the invasions of UK, SOVIET and NATO/USA + 78 more nations in the past 100 years. They lost all their true identity, whole state was dissolved and made into new artificial state etc.

Yes we lost some part of our noble lands from our influence because of porkis/british empire in 1948, but its seems mostly cowards live there today, so its not a huge loss, just the noble land is more valuable than all its identity crises people. The Most beautiful thing is that, it can always be repopulated by noble ones later. And you know rich Pashtuns, with 8-15 good nurtured kids, it will take just 5 generations.

So, what did Afghanistan do TO DESERVE THIS? Because we are free people who doesn't take it in the ass by some powerful foreigners we must be punished with this. I will tell you we will never forget these acts on the Afghan/Pashtun people and will repay it 1000 times to all the guilty and their future family lines, let it take 1000 years. It is one of my legacies I will leave when I pass this earth.

The future looks bright for the one who plans for it.

Afghans/Pashtuns will never forget injustice and this time it will not be an eye for an eye for my legacy. It will be 1000 eyes for ever single one eye done to my people.

have i ever attacked you? NO! i have always been polite to you so keep it too!
i did not mean foreing aid for the entire pashtun history but for the last 100 years

im brainwashed? pfffffff calm down boy you should know that im not!
i guess you spoke with iranian who support the shia ideology, but there are lots of iranian who hate this government and they are not shah supporter
do you know how many people were killed by iranian intelligence? do you know the black list of iran government?
do you know anything about evin-prison?
i have seen many times with my own eyes how polite they were towards you afghan (pashtun) but behind your back: ****ing pashtuns, ****ing pashtunwalli, they are so backward etc, they consider the existence of pashtuns as existence of islamism
in iran is personality cult. is this what you want for afghanistan?
women are suppressed in iran. is this what you want for afghanistan, women in burqas?

[HalloIsBack]

I love the idealism of Loy Afghanistan and his pristine love for Pashtuns and at the same time I love the realism of Brown Savage. The truth is in-between the two. Pashtuns are a great, ancient ,gallant, unique and exceptional ethnic group but at the same time simpleton rather stupid, beggars, uneducated, ignorant , arrogant and unrealistic people.

They were defeated by many and they also defeated many. They were ruled by others but they also ruled others. Rulers like Shershah and poet-warriors like Khushal Baba are our pride.

Today what we need is to defeat Islamism, reform Pashtunwali and get modern education without losing our basic traditions and cultural traits and make Pashto a great language of the world.

so my dear badlun, these are only words
does anything happen to realise it?

[HalloIsBack]

What you've been saying has pretty much been true for at least the last 150 years.

From Shah Shuja Al Mulk to Abdur Rahman Khan to Nadir Khan to Zahir Shah, all were basically beggars to the international community, to Europeans.

this is an evidence thats there is soemthign wrong in society
why is it possibly for all foreigners to do it for the last 150 years?
you need reformation like badlun is saying

[Loy Afghanistan]

simply put, most of our narrative is made up and historically inaccurate with no empirical evidence in support of it.

i.) There's no such thing as a 5000 year old Afghanistan, Even the word "Stan" is recent and borrowed from Turkish.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/31/opinion/31iht-edbearden_ed3__3.html

"They are the Pashtuns, and they have lived on their lands without interruption or major migration for about 20,000 years."

http://www.cemml.colostate.edu/cultural/09476/afgh02-02enl.html

3000 BCE-2000 BCE

• Bronze might have been invented in ancient Afghanistan around this time.
• First true urban centers rise in two main sites in Afghanistan--Mundigak, and Deh Morasi Ghundai.
• Mundigak (near modern day Kandahar)--had an economic base of wheat, barley, sheep and goats. Also, evidence indicates that Mudigak could have been a provincial capital of the Indus valley civilization.
• Ancient Afghanistan--crossroads between Mesopotamia, and other Civilizations.

Owned!

ii.) Ariana was a reference term for a region inhabited by various Arian tribes. There's no suggestion that there was an actual empire called Ariana anywhere in history. It may even be anachronistic since no one really knows it became vogue to use the term.

Like the uneducated savage you are, you should know when I mean quote Afghanistan I mean always Ariana, Pashtunistan, the noble people and of course today's region itself. Ariana/Aria today's LOY Afghanistan etc was a province included in the Achamenidien Empire, Parthian Empire, Sassanids Empire. When the filthy Ottomans had their best soldiers provided from Pashtun region.

Owned

iii.) It couldn't defend against Alexander, It's true there were pockets of resistance, but if you mean "Ariana" as in the area now encompassing, Herat, Kandahar, Balkh, Farah, Ghor etc. etc. etc. .....Alexander controlled that, and his predecessors the Seleucids ruled it for a few hundred years until the Parthians, who were Not-Pashtuns or Afghans overthrew it. Parthians spoke Middle Persian. There is some suggeston that possibly Paktiawals were never under the full control of Alexander, but this is most likely mythologized because the actual definitive existence of Pashtuns as a distinct ethnic group has not been confirmed during this era.

Alexander didn't control ****, he burned DOWN ALL Achemenied LIBRARIES, the biggest libraries the EARTH ever seen and most of heritage was lost, until Parthians, Sassanids came, later same did Arabs, burn down most of Libaries and killed all scholars! If you had done SOME research you would know his little campaign lasted just 11 years. And in a second after that he died it VANISHED LIKE IT NEVER WAS EVER THERE. Pashtuns did control their OWN lands 100%, you heard the cry baby letters Alexander the BIG GAY sent to his mother?

Mostly after loosing support by the Pashtuns brave warriors, the "Persian" clan empires get raped. They lost mostly Pashtun support, because they got coocky and lost in their waves with all the gold, girls etc. But still western Iranians are our cousins, I am always on their side rather some other, but you can't always be happy family.

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/An...mpirelarge.jpg

Owned!

iv) Turks ......did you forget about the Saljuks? They had their throne IN Ghazni, Pashtuns willingly served them as soldiers. This is acknowledged by AlBiruni, Bayhaqi etc. etc. etc.

Turks are like gypsies, should never ever been settled in our noble lands, they should live off in the wilderness near Mongolia.

v.) Punjabis, look at Afghanistan right now....and that's all the evidence you need to know this is false.

Punjabis aka Dravidians have always been ghulams for the Arians/Iranians. Who the hell do you think made Avesta and Rigveda books, laws, etc to control you? Do I really need to tell you WHO made Cast system?

vi) English ....OK , now this was a hard and undeniable example of success but only militarily Politically Afghans Kings were their vassals asking them for money ...i.e. FOREiGN AID

Geopolitics, business learn how the power structure works.
+ give me some facts on your statements.

But for the most part you live in a story book fantasy, not reality.

Really? I proven all statements with facts, links, and my own old family records. My family line are ancient, with a recorded family tree dating since 900 AD.

Don't cry to much now!

I am here not for your likes, but to wake up my Pashtun brethren to tell them, do as I. I am very young, but my heart and soul burns solely for you, because either you like it or not, we are one race/people, one mind and one big FAMILY.

So, STUDY HARD in all directions, open your mind, make a huge family, try to sacrifice yourself for your duty, marry a Pashtun and make your legacy that future YOU/grandchildren will talk about 1000 years from now when they rule over their lives, land, freely, proud, powerful, and fair, but 1 million times more smarter like my noble ancestors did. Put a seed now and you will become immortal. Trust me, start all over the world and I promise you my Pashtun brother and sisters, the day we unite in one hand, the future is ours.

I study medicine but still history is just a small HOBBIE. Use your brain Pashtuns your ancestors invented SO MUCH, but you don't know it because mostly foreign parasites burn down our libraries secondly wahabism and other parasites today make sure to not question Pashtun history pre arabisation, you can do it as well when you live in peace.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

this is an evidence thats there is soemthign wrong in society
why is it possibly for all foreigners to do it for the last 150 years?
you need reformation like badlun is saying

I don't think that's the solution either. Since Amanullah Khan people have been trying to "reform" the Pashtun people. The reality is Pashtun society is not meant to be fit into the matrix of the mainstream world. I think Pashtuns are best when they're left to their own devices, without this concept or construct of "nation" impeding on them.

[Loy Afghanistan]

have i ever attacked you? NO! i have always been polite to you so keep it too!
i did not mean foreing aid for the entire pashtun history but for the last 100 years

im brainwashed? pfffffff calm down boy you should know that im not!
i guess you spoke with iranian who support the shia ideology, but there are lots of iranian who hate this government and they are not shah supporter
do you know how many people were killed by iranian intelligence? do you know the black list of iran government?
do you know anything about evin-prison?
i have seen many times with my own eyes how polite they were towards you afghan (pashtun) but behind your back: ****ing pashtuns, ****ing pashtunwalli, they are so backward etc, they consider the existence of pashtuns as existence of islamism
in iran is personality cult. is this what you want for afghanistan?
women are suppressed in iran. is this what you want for afghanistan, women in burqas?

I am sorry sister, I lost my temper a little bit about aid stuff. <3 Hope we are all good.

You are right, I know this. But majority are kind of nice people.

But please, change that your name. hahaha :D

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Don't cry to much now!
[/B]

Did you even read your references?

Your first reference

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/31/op...en_ed3__3.html

"They are the Pashtuns, and they have lived on their lands without interruption or major migration for about 20,000 years."

First off the link is an OPINION piece, which means it's the author's opinion.
Second, it has ABSOLUTELY ZERO citations for it's claims. There's no historical data in the piece that suggests that Alexander was defeated in Malakand by Pashtuns.

Secondly the author said that Pashtuns have been there for 20,000 years People had not even developed written history 20,000 years ago. So the statement is absurd. And then you have the Indus Valley Civilization of Dravidians who had a Provincial Capital in Mundigak near Kandahar. And they were DEFINITELY not Pashtuns,

This is even referenced here: http://www.cemml.colostate.edu/cultu...h02-02enl.html

You clearly do not know what you're reading and grasping for anything that you think favors your narrative., whether factual or not. In this case not.

Owned indeed.

3000 BCE-2000 BCE
Bronze might have been invented in ancient Afghanistan around this time.
First true urban centers rise in two main sites in Afghanistan--Mundigak, and Deh Morasi Ghundai.
Mundigak (near modern day Kandahar)--had an economic base of wheat, barley, sheep and goats. Also, evidence indicates that Mudigak could have been a provincial capital of the Indus valley civilization.
Ancient Afghanistan--crossroads between Mesopotamia, and other Civilizations.
Owned!

Nothing here says anything about Pashtuns ....not a single word ...in fact it says this. This is from the very same link you quoted.

In the long march toward civilization, we find at Mundigak (near modern-day Kandahar) evidence of a true city, perhaps a provincial capital of the Indus valley civilization

Indus Valley civilization was a Dravidian society. Which means as I stated above demonstrates they were not Pashtuns and that Pashtuns did not develop into an ethnic identity at this time.

Once again, Owned indeed.

Like the uneducated savage you are, you should know when I mean quote Afghanistan I mean always Ariana, Pashtunistan, the noble people and of course today's region itself. Ariana/Aria today's LOY Afghanistan etc was a province included in the Achamenidien Empire, Parthian Empire, Sassanids Empire. When the filthy Ottomans had their best soldiers provided from Pashtun region.

Ariana, Pashtunistan, Afghanistan, etc are not the same things, neither in ethnic identity nor cultural relationship. For you to suggest the are is intellectually dishonest attempt at hijacking the identities of others to manufacture a false narrative about Pashtun identity. It's mythology essentially.

Furthermore Ottomans were never in Afghanistan, Saljuks were, the Pashtuns served the Saljuks, which means the Saljuks were ruling over areas which Pashtuns inhabited.

Alexander didn't control ****, he burned DOWN ALL Achemenied LIBRARIES, the biggest libraries the EARTH ever seen and most of heritage was lost, until Parthians, Sassanids came, later same did Arabs, burn down most of Libaries and killed all scholars! If you had done SOME research you would know his little campaign lasted just 11 years. And in a second after that he died it VANISHED LIKE IT NEVER WAS EVER THERE. Pashtuns did control their OWN lands 100%, you heard the cry baby letters Alexander the BIG GAY sent to his mother?

The statement is patently false, the Seleucids were themselves known for having vast libraries and patrons of knowledge and learning. The Seleucids were the Inheritors of the Perso-Helenic Empire started by Alexander, they lasted for centuries And the Achaemenids and Sassanids were not Pashtuns nor did they have any cultural relationship with Pashtuns except possibly language family. So mentioning them is irrelevant in demonstrating any belief regarding the antiquity of Pashtuns. There is absolutely no mention of Pashtuns in any Sassanid or Achamaenid records. So how could they have even been fighting for them?

Alexander's letters? Also no mention of Pashtuns.

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/An...mpirelarge.jpg

The Seleucid Empire (/sɪˈlʲuːsɪd/)[6] was a Hellenistic state ruled by the Seleucid dynasty, 312 BC to 63 BC; it was founded by Seleucus I Nicator following the division of the empire created by Alexander the Great.[7][8][9][10] Seleucus received Babylonia and, from there, expanded his dominions to include much of Alexander's near eastern territories. At the height of its power, it included central Anatolia, Persia, the Levant, Mesopotamia, and what is now Kuwait, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkmenistan and northwest parts of India.

Once again, Owned indeed.

Turks are like gypsies, should never ever been settled in our noble lands, they should live off in the wilderness near Mongolia.

Well they did and they ruled over it and even had their Home-base in Ghazna.

Punjabis aka Dravidians have always been ghulams for the Arians/Iranians. Who the hell do you think made Avesta and Rigveda books, laws, etc to control you? Do I really need to tell you WHO made Cast system?

Even your link earlier suggests that Dravidians had their civilization built in Mundigak. But that's ancient history. The Punjabis now have been controlling Afghanistan for nearly 30 years through their agents. What happened in 1500 BC has no bearing on what's happening now

Geopolitics, business learn how the power structure works.
+ give me some facts on your statements.

In other words living on Foreign Aid just as ImAJew said.

I proven all statements with facts, links, and some old family gospel like I told you. My family line are ancient, with a recorded family tree dating since 900 AD.

Based on your responses it's clear that you had not even taken the time to read or examine any of what you wrongly consider "proofs" in favor of your argument. Much of it says something quite contrary to what you believe, the rest of it is OPINION , written in a News Paper , which has absolutely no sources to support it. This is the very opposite of a proof, as it fails the meet the basic requirements of supportive evidence.

The rest of your ramble is merely inflated bravado of someone suffering a severe emotional crisis.

[khushal]

With regards to this article, Afghan officials also said they retook several districts from Taliban insurgents only to have other news organizations reject this claim. In my opinion, judging from past and current record of lies and misinformation, Afghan officials claims about ISIS seizing territory in Afghanistan is not true.

There is no such thing as ISIS in Afghanistan. It is a made up "boogyman" to encourage the Western public to hand out more money to the failed Afghan gov. The article I posted was to show that the ANA itself admits it does not target ISIS as Atefi in the article states.

Basically it is the CIA death squad militias and NDS created militias that are now flying the black flag pretending to be ISIS to confuse people.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/26/afghanistan-death-squads-torture-militas

http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/afghanistan0911webwcover.pdf

Militias are usually controlled by men described as local strongmen or warlords—typically
former mujahideen commanders who built up power bases during the anti-Soviet jihad—
whose source of protection extends into the heart of local and national government.
Abusive militias have alienated Afghans from the national government and in some places
contributed to the expansion of the insurgency even as the growth in the insurgency has
occasioned periodic spikes in government reliance on militias. It is a classic vicious circle.
For example, Kunduz province in northeastern Afghanistan, long one of the more secure
parts of the country, is now beset with militias. The rise of militias there has been in part a
local response to a rapid decline in security as the Taliban and other insurgent groups
have infiltrated and occupied significant parts of the province since 2008. But their rise
has also been a deliberate policy of the National Directorate of Security (NDS), which has
reactivated militia networks of previous decades, primarily through the Shura-e Nazar
(“Supervisory Council” of the north, formerly led by Ahmed Shah Masood) and Jamiat-i
Islami networks. The NDS has provided money and guns without requisite oversight. With
patronage links to senior officials in the local security forces and the central government,
these groups operate with impunity.

[HalloIsBack]

I am sorry sister, I lost my temper a little bit about aid stuff. <3 Hope we are all good.

You are right, I know this. But majority are kind of nice people.

But please, change that your name. hahaha :D

ask admin khan why he refuses to do it
i guess he wants that i leave the forum

[HalloIsBack]

Really? I proven all statements with facts, links, and my own old family records. My family line are ancient, with a recorded family tree dating since 900 AD.

Don't cry to much now!

I am here not for your likes, but to wake up my Pashtun brethren to tell them, do as I. I am very young, but my heart and soul burns solely for you, because either you like it or not, we are one race/people, one mind and one big FAMILY.

So, STUDY HARD in all directions, open your mind, make a huge family, try to sacrifice yourself for your duty, marry a Pashtun and make your legacy that future YOU/grandchildren will talk about 1000 years from now when they rule over their lives, land, freely, proud, powerful, and fair, but 1 million times more smarter like my noble ancestors did. Put a seed now and you will become immortal. Trust me, start all over the world and I promise you my Pashtun brother and sisters, the day we unite in one hand, the future is ours.

I study medicine but still history is just a small HOBBIE. Use your brain Pashtuns your ancestors invented SO MUCH, but you don't know it because mostly foreign parasites burn down our libraries secondly wahabism and other parasites today make sure to not question Pashtun history pre arabisation, you can do it as well when you live in peace.

he is half arab hahahahaha

[Loy Afghanistan]

Did you even read your references?

Your first reference



First off the link is an OPINION piece, which means it's the author's opinion.
Second, it has ABSOLUTELY ZERO citations for it's claims. There's no historical data in the piece that suggests that Alexander was defeated in Malakand by Pashtuns.

Secondly the author said that Pashtuns have been there for 20,000 years People had not even developed written history 20,000 years ago. So the statement is absurd. And then you have the Indus Valley Civilization of Dravidians who had a Provincial Capital in Mundigak near Kandahar. And they were DEFINITELY not Pashtuns,

This is even referenced here: http://www.cemml.colostate.edu/cultu...h02-02enl.html

You clearly do not know what you're reading and grasping for anything that you think favors your narrative., whether factual or not. In this case not.

Owned indeed.



Nothing here says anything about Pashtuns ....not a single word ...in fact it says this. This is from the very same link you quoted.

In the long march toward civilization, we find at Mundigak (near modern-day Kandahar) evidence of a true city, perhaps a provincial capital of the Indus valley civilization

Indus Valley civilization was a Dravidian society. Which means as I stated above demonstrates they were not Pashtuns and that Pashtuns did not develop into an ethnic identity at this time.

Once again, Owned indeed.


Ariana, Pashtunistan, Afghanistan, etc are not the same things, neither in ethnic identity nor cultural relationship. For you to suggest the are is intellectually dishonest attempt at hijacking the identities of others to manufacture a false narrative about Pashtun identity. It's mythology essentially.

Furthermore Ottomans were never in Afghanistan, Saljuks were, the Pashtuns served the Saljuks, which means the Saljuks were ruling over areas which Pashtuns inhabited.



The statement is patently false, the Seleucids were themselves known for having vast libraries and patrons of knowledge and learning. The Seleucids were the Inheritors of the Perso-Helenic Empire started by Alexander, they lasted for centuries And the Achaemenids and Sassanids were not Pashtuns nor did they have any cultural relationship with Pashtuns except possibly language family. So mentioning them is irrelevant in demonstrating any belief regarding the antiquity of Pashtuns. There is absolutely no mention of Pashtuns in any Sassanid or Achamaenid records. So how could they have even been fighting for them?

Alexander's letters? Also no mention of Pashtuns.




The Seleucid Empire (/sɪˈlʲuːsɪd/)[6] was a Hellenistic state ruled by the Seleucid dynasty, 312 BC to 63 BC; it was founded by Seleucus I Nicator following the division of the empire created by Alexander the Great.[7][8][9][10] Seleucus received Babylonia and, from there, expanded his dominions to include much of Alexander's near eastern territories. At the height of its power, it included central Anatolia, Persia, the Levant, Mesopotamia, and what is now Kuwait, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkmenistan and northwest parts of India.

Once again, Owned indeed.



Well they did and they ruled over it and even had their Home-base in Ghazna.



Even your link earlier suggests that Dravidians had their civilization built in Mundigak. But that's ancient history. The Punjabis now have been controlling Afghanistan for nearly 30 years through their agents. What happened in 1500 BC has no bearing on what's happening now



In other words living on Foreign Aid just as ImAJew said.



Based on your responses it's clear that you had not even taken the time to read or examine any of what you wrongly consider "proofs" in favor of your argument. Much of it says something quite contrary to what you believe, the rest of it is OPINION , written in a News Paper , which has absolutely no sources to support it. This is the very opposite of a proof, as it fails the meet the basic requirements of supportive evidence.

The rest of your ramble is merely inflated bravado of someone suffering a severe emotional crisis.

Seriously, you think BY coming to an empire and PUT YOUR NAME ON IT, IT DOES make all the other previously achievements yours? MY argument IS IT Doesn't!

Iranians people included Pashtuns, Persians, etc etc etc is one of the 3 first civilisations on this earth. That's the clear statement. You are jealous because Like I said before, Pashtuns always fights for their freedom. And that's why we are in war with major leagues. You on the other hand your people has always been nukar/ghulam for other major leagues. That is clear fact.

[Loy Afghanistan]

he is half arab hahahahaha

I am not a half anyting sister. Please don't lower yourself this much! HAHAHAHA

No my family line is from around 1000 BC, but my recorded family tree from 900 AD! To be clear our clan is one of the biggest one in Afghanistan. 4.8 million since 900 AD. So I know exactly who I am and my ancestors live and are immortal through me. That's the beauty of a great legacy.

Or you meant the savage one?

Ahaa. Well Admin Khan is the Khan of this place. I respect his decisions, no matter what.

[HalloIsBack]

I am not a half anyting sister. Please don't lower yourself this much! HAHAHAHA

No my family line is from around 1000 BC, but my recorded family tree from 900 AD! To be clear our clan is one of the biggest one in Afghanistan. 4.8 million since 900 AD. So I know exactly who I am and my ancestors live and are immortal through me. That's the beauty of a great legacy.

Or you meant the savage one?

Ahaa. Well Admin Khan is the Khan of this place. I respect his decisions, no matter what.

his decisions are one sided and he is pretty blind about mods!

savage is half arab, not you

so to which tribe do you belong?
you can retrace your entire lineage? hahahaha