Gen Kayani, Gen Pasha ensured no resistance to US Abbottabad raid

[khushal]

You guys should really stop insulting one another's women folk. When one does that, he is purposefully inviting the opponent to attack his own namos.

Anyways, [MENTION=1444]Azmal[/MENTION],
I am not convinced that the Taliban are Pakistans proxies. What proof or argument do you have to convince me or others that are in the same boat as I am opinion wise.

[tilla_jogian]

Seem like Afghanis don't know anything about Pakistanis as expected. Likes of Asad Durrani and Hamid Gul maybe punjabi-pathans but they are well aware of their pathan identity and are not wannabes like muhajir pathans and pirachas. Neither they hate Afghan pashtuns but the problem is they don't exactly like anyone else in Afghanistan.

Which is the reason they never liked anyone else but pashtuns ruling Kabul. They also convinced their non-pathan punjabi colegues that if tajiks, uzbeks, hazaras etc ever got in to power in Kabul, they will work against Pakistan.

But now things are different, there has been policy shift and establishment have decided let anyone who can rule Kabul. Afghani taliban who are mostly pashtuns no longer enjoy Pakistan support.

[Azmal]

Your ability to find random pictures of girls posing and drinking spirits really gives away your adept ability to feed a porno addiction

Saima Shahnawaz Khan Durrani aka Sam Durrani is niece of your auntie Taminah Durrani--which makes her your cousin. She was even in American show "Survival of the Richest" and claim her family is worth $1 billion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_Richest

here is more pic of her.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Sam+Durrani&biw=1440&bih=770&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=LWdXVbDxM8KkNr7ZgKAI&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

All decedents of same traitor -----no wonder you don't care about holy Afghanistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Hayat_Khan

[Azmal]

You guys should really stop insulting one another's women folk. When one does that, he is purposefully inviting the opponent to attack his own namos.

Anyways, @Azmal,
I am not convinced that the Taliban are Pakistans proxies. What proof or argument do you have to convince me or others that are in the same boat as I am opinion wise.

I would have, but your statement "you need to settle pashtonistan with Pakistan" makes it worthless.

[Azmal]

Seem like Afghanis don't know anything about Pakistanis as expected. Likes of Asad Durrani and Hamid Gul maybe punjabi-pathans but they are well aware of their pathan identity and are not wannabes like muhajir pathans and pirachas. Neither they hate Afghan pashtuns but the problem is they don't exactly like anyone else in Afghanistan.

Which is the reason they never liked anyone else but pashtuns ruling Kabul. They also convinced their non-pathan punjabi colegues that if tajiks, uzbeks, hazaras etc ever got in to power in Kabul, they will work against Pakistan.

But now things are different, there has been policy shift and establishment have decided let anyone who can rule Kabul. Afghani taliban who are mostly pashtuns no longer enjoy Pakistan support.

You little Paki cockrouch, HamidGul is Siriki born in Taksila. Same with Asad Durrani---posted about his grandfather. Just because some Afghan guy had roam Hindustan does not makes these people Afghan! Abdul de Paki mule aka Idon'tcareaboutAfghanistan is prove of it.
As i stated before, the only Pashton dominated govt that Pakistan and these Panjabis can tolerate in Afghanistan is Taleban and other Jehadists who could be politically controlled from Mansoora, Lahore and who would be dependent on Punjabistan. They, i.e. Punjabis, cannot tolerate a Pashton ruler at Kabul that can think and act independently as a Pashton even in matters of Islam. That is why Pakistan eliminated all the nationalist Pashton leadership during "Afghan Jehad" and afterwards and installed Talebans and others instead.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Saima Shahnawaz Khan Durrani aka Sam Durrani is niece of your auntie Taminah Durrani--which makes her your cousin.

This is hilarious. Not only do you invent shajaraats for yourself, which per your own admission somehow link you to three different unrelated lineages (e.g. Khalid Hosseini, a Safi "concubine" that cannot be found in any records of consorts of AbduRahman, and then also Zahir Shah via Telai) and as if locked away in some fantasy world you are now intent on inventing nonexistent lineages to random girls you stalk on the net.

She was even in American show "Survival of the Richest" and claim her family is worth $1 billion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_Richest

LOOOOL, now you are into you reality TV? Maybe they can put you on some survivor island so you can learn the skills you need to fight your own battles instead of sending white hillbillies to help and bone you and Saleh?

here is more pic of her.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Sam+...ed=0CAcQ_AUoAg


LOOOOL, Beghairaata Parsiwaan, Im not clicking on the links you use to whack your micro dong to. Go post your female stalking crap elsewhere.

All decedents of same traitor -----no wonder you don't care about holy Afghanistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Hayat_Khan

Says the King of Tajikaam who had to invent a lineage to become Afghan LOOOOOL. Keep em coming fa-g-got, I'm having too much fun with this.

Im going to go eat lunch and work out a bit. That will give you some disabled peoples advantage time to work up a response I can at least humor. Up till now what we discovered is you are pretty much a traitor to Afghanistan and an avowed adherent to neocon ideologies so you also bend over for Jewish militants and imperials galore. I bet a UV light would reveal a lot of different DNA trails on your face LOOOOL.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I would have, but your statement "you need to settle pashtonistan with Pakistan" makes it worthless.

Not as worthless as the claim that has been preserved here for countless others regarding a nonexistent safi grandma that spawned the Zekria clan when the actual shajaraat traces back to a Lahori that Telai was canoodeling. But hey, to each his own right? Perhaps that explains your obsession with "Pathans" since by your own retarded mental entrapment you became one with the pseudo shajaraat LOL.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

You little Paki cockrouch, HamidGul is Siriki born in Taksila. Same with Asad Durrani---posted about his grandfather. Just because some Afghan guy had roam Hindustan

Like Telai happened to "roam" his traitorous STD laced pecker into that Lahori? Ironic eh? You basically meet the definition. It explains your psychiatric complex actually, rather well. Inventing Shajaraats doesnt alter DNA parsiwaan, so on the one hand you are Tajikaam buttbuddy and on the other you mentally created a persona that is the very thing you claim to abhor - you are King Pathan b-itch LOOOL.

does not makes these people Afghan! Abdul de Paki mule aka Idon'tcareaboutAfghanistan is prove of it.
As i stated before, the only Pashton dominated govt that Pakistan and these Panjabis can tolerate in Afghanistan is Taleban and other Jehadists who could be politically controlled from Mansoora, Lahore and who would be dependent on Punjabistan. They, i.e. Punjabis, cannot tolerate a Pashton ruler at Kabul that can think and act independently as a Pashton even in matters of Islam. That is why Pakistan eliminated all the nationalist Pashton leadership during "Afghan Jehad" and afterwards and installed Talebans and others instead.

Yeah because Rabbani was a "Pashtun nationalist" you handicap f-uck.

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[tilla_jogian]

You little Paki cockrouch, HamidGul is Siriki born in Taksila. Same with Asad Durrani---posted about his grandfather. Just because some Afghan guy had roam Hindustan does not makes these people Afghan! Abdul de Paki mule aka Idon'tcareaboutAfghanistan is prove of it.
As i stated before, the only Pashton dominated govt that Pakistan and these Panjabis can tolerate in Afghanistan is Taleban and other Jehadists who could be politically controlled from Mansoora, Lahore and who would be dependent on Punjabistan. They, i.e. Punjabis, cannot tolerate a Pashton ruler at Kabul that can think and act independently as a Pashton even in matters of Islam. That is why Pakistan eliminated all the nationalist Pashton leadership during "Afghan Jehad" and afterwards and installed Talebans and others instead.

Teri maa bhen coackroch. Now coming back to real topic on hand. Hamid is punjabi pathan born in Sargodha. Hamid Gul always loved Afghani pashtuns, he consider them his brothers. Same thing with Asad Durrani. But problem is these people hate non-pashtun afghanis and don't want them in Kabul.

Obviously this doesn't mean giving away Pakistan land to mongol sons aka tajiks, uzbeks, hazaras etc in Afghanistan. No one want that including Pakistani pashtuns.

Ghani is pashtun and our relations with Afghanistan never have been better, so there is some truth in theory of mongol sons working against Pakistan with help of India. Some say ISI helped Ghani win election, which is posible.

Edit: just watched Hamid Gul interview, he is not even proper punjabi pathan like Niazis or Kasuris who are in punjab for centuries. His father was from Swat who moved to Sargodha. His wife is pashtun, her father was from Afghanistan and mother Quetta. Both are youfzai pashtun.

[khushal]

I would have, but your statement "you need to settle pashtonistan with Pakistan" makes it worthless.

That's what I thought. The foundation of everything you say and argue is Insurgent=ISI, if you cant back this up, then everything you have said and argued is basically rubbish. Your foundation does not even exist. That goes for people like Marwat, Toramana, the many persiofacists members, Comradepashtun(who foolishly thinks the ISI can be trusted) and others.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

You are hiding your quote to make your nonsense less readable..Even for a paki you are pathetic.

Since when stating the fact Islam is Arab imperialism makes one an atheist? Do you even know what an atheist is?

"An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab" Abul Qasim Muhammad Bin Abdullah circa 10 AH

I know what a dumb a-s-s is and you fit the bill

Let's deconstruct your attempts at pseudo intellectualism below, piece by piece.



You know what is funny? You a Talibian support being in love with white supremacist American isolationist. Some historian even believe that American Isolationist party--- American first organization under German propaganda might have kept the united states out of the war had it not been for Pearl Harbor.

Charles Lindbergh was an all-American hero and the American First Party, organized under him, after his career spying on Germany for the US, was based purely on his belief that America need not insert herself into a conflict created Wilsonian politics creating the ripe environs for German Nationalist Socialism to arise ala the Treaty of Versailles.

Additionally, Lindbergh and co represented the will, desires, and motivations of their people accurately:

A pre-war Gallup poll showed 88 percent of Americans opposed U.S. involvement in the European war. Citizens realized that U.S. participation in World War I had not made a better world, and in a 1940 (election-year) speech, Roosevelt typically stated: "I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.

And just like you like to poke your micro sized pecker into random things like electric sockets, FDR was pretty avid to do so too and instigated the attack:

In Day of Deceit: The Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor (2000), the book so brusquely dismissed by director Bruckheimer, Stinnett reveals that Roosevelt's plan to provoke Japan began with a memorandum from Lieutenant Commander Arthur H. McCollum, head of the Far East desk of the Office of Naval Intelligence. The memorandum advocated eight actions predicted to lead Japan into attacking the United States. McCollum wrote: "If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better." FDR enacted all eight of McCollum's provocative steps — and more.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4740-pearl-harbor-hawaii-was-surprised-fdr-was-not

Politics makes strange bed fellow, nephew of Taminah Durrani in intimacy with US far right to support dark force of ignorance Taliban. Indeed what Ron Paul preach fits perfected with Hitler’s idea, Nazis to wanted to create an isolationist German that need not reply on international economics and thereby would not be effect by them. In essence, Hitler felt that the strongest should always stand-alone and not merge or otherwise engaged them with the weaker. Ron Paul has similar attitude towards the US involvement in the United Nations and constantly reiterates their view that US should withdraw from such a coalition.

Fascinating how your midget mind draws and redraws the temporal goalposts when it suits you. You forget the role of WWI when wad rags like you were clamoring for interventionalism from Brits and the like. Buchanon comments well on this:

To liberal internationalists, the lesson of Munich is that we must stand up to every new Hitler, go to war, if necessary, to deny aggression any reward, and never again “isolate America” from any crisis or conflict on the continent of Europe. But the road to Munich began back in 1919 at Versailles, where 3 million Sudeten Germans were put under Czech rule in flagrant violation of Woodrow Wilson’s own principle of self-determination. Unless Germany was to be forever occupied by Allied soldiers, the Germans were going to rise up one day and take back what had been stripped from them in violation of Wilson’s Fourteen Points.

Close your ape mouth, read, and listen so that your IQ can inch upwards by a 0.5 point Azmule the fool. "Power projection" and the like would go on to reap devastating effects and lock America onto the trajectory away from republic on the path to empire which is slowly entering its red sun phase per the lessons and historical attributes described by Glubbs in his renowned essay, Fate of Empires:

http://www.newworldeconomics.com/archives/2014/092814_files/TheFateofEmpiresbySirJohnGlubb.pdf

He make the same claims as Hitler himself for such a notion specifically the protection of American job and the projection of American economy as a whole, both of which easily be placed on the inadequacies of capitalism in general.

Ahhhh, LOOOOL, I see a little fear surfacing. If the Parsiwanaan and Tajikaam trash like you lose their red white and blue mega dong backing then you know what the outcome will be . Thats why you fear and malign Dr. Paul who has spoken out against destroying Iran and conducting international killings and inserting America's army into third world conflicts. Its because your parsiwaan nature is parasitic - hence the affinity to neocon pro Israeli logic

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[Toramana]

One can understand the inner rage in Barakzai. Actaully, one of his hero has been given a death sentence in Egypt.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

One can understand the inner rage in Barakzai. Actaully, one of his hero has been given a death sentence.

LOL. Hardly my hero. Only a fool would have assumed that a "democratically elected goverment" in a military state that drinks the milk from super power "meme-te" would flourish. It was like walking toward a pointed gun.

Nonetheless, the one useful thing he did was expose the fact that your "secular" "democratic" leanings in those regions translates into a bunch of lower caste, non sunni se-x ad-dicts and alcoholics creating secular political parties to subvert the will of the majorities when they lose elections.

Amusement, lol, not rage. Now you and Azmal D-ick can go back to deciding which caucasoid power is more worth kow-towing to and provides more perks post the aggressive fellatio your ilk are willing to engage in.

[khushal]

I dont know why Azmal is regarded as a giant when he lacks basic education. Everyone knows that the Rise of Hitler and his war machine was set in stone at Versailles. It is very similar to the Rise of the Taliban and the Rise of ISIS. You give a group a bad deal, there is bound to be more bloodshed.

[Al-Afghani]

That's what I thought. The foundation of everything you say and argue is Insurgent=ISI, if you cant back this up, then everything you have said and argued is basically rubbish. Your foundation does not even exist. That goes for people like Marwat, Toramana, the many persiofacists members, Comradepashtun(who foolishly thinks the ISI can be trusted) and others.

The movement’s command structure has seen profound change – partly in response to the US wiping out whole layers of the old, mid-level insurgent leadership through ‘capture-or-kill’ operations, but also because of direct interference by Pakistan’s intelligence apparatus. As of yet, the old Emirate command structure remains active in the Taleban’s southern heartland, but the east, Loya Paktia and the north have all seen the impact of Pakistani efforts to select and promote its own proxies within the Taleban, men who have been given special training and, frequently, Pakistani citizenship.

https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/the-evolving-taleban-changes-in-the-insurgencys-dna/

You can't completely rule out paki interference and infiltration in the taliban command structure. Of course that doesn't mean taliban are all punjabis.