Why Afghans hate Pakistan

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Major Sins Don’t Take One Out of Islam:

Abdullah ibn Masud [ra] said:
When the words “It is those who believe and confuse not their Belief with Zulm[wrong]…” were revealed, the companions of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ were distressed and asked, “Who among us has not wronged himself?”
The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: “It is not as you think; rather it is shirk. Have you not heard what Luqman said to his son when exhorting him: ‘O my son! Join not in worship others with Allah. Verily, joining others in worship with Allah is a great Zulm (wrong) indeed’ [Qur’an,31:13]" ?
[Bukhari and Muslim]

Imam An-Nawawi said: “This hadith contains a wealth of knowledge, such as the fact that sins, even if major, do not constitute kufr.” [Sharh Sahih Muslim]

Imam Al-Bukhari iis known to have held this belief as he said in Kitabul‘ Iman in his Sahih,
"Sins are the matter of ignorance (jahiliyyah )but the sinner who commits them does not become an unbeliever (kafir )except in the case of shirk, because the Prophet ﷺ said “You are a man in whom there is some jahiliyyah” and Allah says: “Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills.”
[Qur’an, 4:48]

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American presence is in every country but spy vs spy game is always on between patriots of a particular country and cia global network.Ultimately a time ll come when these spies wont be able to hold the global cia network for long.In thislight i was referring to americans presence in pakistan.They ve deserted them except for dollors supply ...that too unwillingly because they needed land desperately to bomb afghans ...yup same afghans withstockholm syndrome.Its nukeof pakistan thats holding them back ...till the time they get hold on nukes civil crisis is there.So they cant get hold of pak politic fully compare to afg that didnt had nukes.

What are you talking about... Maybe you should stop watching James bond movies, and actually learn facts/reality. Right now, you're literally talking jibberish, and blabbering regarding random terms you heard, but never understood.

Pakistan have had an American presence for 60+ years, and right now you're complaining about American presence in Afghanistan, which is no longer than 10 years.

If you haven't noticed, the Americans have been bombing Pakistan with drones for 14+ years. The Pakistanis even went as far and going to war with TTP, because USA gave them a direct order to attack(literally). So now tell me, who got stockholmsyndrome(a term you most likely don't know).
Compared to the US control over Pakistan, the Afghans are free as the eagle.

So now you guys deny that you guys were involved in nationalism and racisn and insult of indics?? And now posting hadeeths to declare others kaffir when proven wrong.The word murtad is seen on lips of khawarij mostly.Be careful.

Are you saying that you heard/read 30+ million Afghans being racist toward Indic people... From my knowledge, it is you Pakistanis who got inferiority complex, and pretend to be descended from Arabs, Afghans/Pashtuns. While insulting Indians, and other Muslims. That is also how you lost east Pakistan. Bangladeshi people were good and religious people, yet because of your Pakistani inferiority complex, you discriminated against them. Well, what can one expect from a Murtad.
You're exposing your own munafiqueen

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What are you talking about... Maybe you should stop watching James bond movies, and actually learn facts/reality. Right now, you're literally talking jibberish, and blabbering regarding random terms you heard, but never understood.

Pakistan have had an American presence for 60+ years, and right now you're complaining about American presence in Afghanistan, which is no longer than 10 years.

If you haven't noticed, the Americans have been bombing Pakistan with drones for 14+ years. The Pakistanis even went as far and going to war with TTP, because USA gave them a direct order to attack(literally). So now tell me, who got stockholmsyndrome(a term you most likely don't know).
Compared to the US control over Pakistan, the Afghans are free as the eagle.



Are you saying that you heard/read 30+ million Afghans being racist toward Indic people... From my knowledge, it is you Pakistanis who got inferiority complex, and pretend to be descended from Arabs, Afghans/Pashtuns. While insulting Indians, and other Muslims. That is also how you lost east Pakistan. Bangladeshi people were good and religious people, yet because of your Pakistani inferiority complex, you discriminated against them. Well, what can one expect from a Murtad.
You're exposing your own munafiqueen

What you call james bonds etc ..are spies that are real.Alongwith media to brain wash population and spies vast network manipulating politics with lastly the armies...a country is invaded but not fully till nukes are in control.
Americans cant ve full control until it gets its hands on nukes it seems you cant grasp this simple fact.Its the range of nukes that are important.Having ties as an alley is different than being a slave.One is willing association other is forceful.Hence you see pakistanis hate americans...but what can you explain for the love of afghans with the same regime that invaded them..installed puppets...sitying in west paying taxes to them.Pakistan had became slave recently in few decades...Even if you call it slave of 60 yrs...doesnt effect to the reality that i dont see things with nationalistic views but through the scope of khilafa....when it was finished from 1919 to 1924.Exactly same time period when amir AbdurRehman made nayionalistic treaties for bar pashtuns...lol.co incidence eh?

Pakistanis and indians do ve a blood of turks,iranians,arabs etc.There is no doubt in this.Just like tatars left their gene pool pretty much in majority parts of the world.
Calling me murtad ll only add good deeds to my list.You ve an angel on your left side writing your deeds..lol.

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Just for the sake of accuracy.


MUNAFIQ = Hypocrite. One who possesses "Nifaq". It can mean someone in life who is a hypocrite or what is called the "shar'ee" (legal) meaning which is someone who pretends to be a Muslim but inside does not believe in Islam.

MURTAD = Apostate. One who leaves Islam. This act is called "rida".

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What you call james bonds etc ..are spies that are real.Alongwith media to brain wash population and spies vast network manipulating politics with lastly the armies...

Do you even know how one becomes a spy... or becomes part of an intelligence agency... Even more importantly, what their jobs are... Go learn the basic stuffs, before you throw random terms, which you have no slightest idea what means.

a country is invaded but not fully till nukes are in control.
Americans cant ve full control until it gets its hands on nukes it seems you cant grasp this simple fact.Its the range of nukes that are important.

Let me make it clear for you. The industrialized world do not fear the nukes of a third world country. Nukes only have symbolic meaning. In practical use it does more harm than good. Actually even just having them got several negative effect.

In the side note. The US or any other industrialized world is capable of destroying any nuclear attack before it even reaches their country. The most likely scenario would be that the nukes get destroyed in their own country. Basically if Pakistan fires the nuke, it will most likely be destroyed within the Pakistani own range.

Having ties as an alley is different than being a slave.One is willing association other is forceful.Hence you see pakistanis hate americans...but what can you explain for the love of afghans with the same regime that invaded them..installed puppets...sitying in west paying taxes to them.

Afghanistan got a mutual corporation with the US. We both got the same enemy at our sight.
In the other hand, Pakistan is forced and thrown around by Americans. You yourself said that Pakistan hate America, but yet America forces Pakistan to corporate, and do it bidding. Basically the relation between Pakistan and US is, slave and master. The US orders, and Pakistan obeys. That why no matter how many times Pakistan begged the US to stop drone bombing them, the US just simply ignored and continued.

Pakistan had became slave recently in few decades...Even if you call it slave of 60 yrs...

Do you know what a decade is... 1 decade equals 10 years. Saying a few decades basically implies 60+ years... which is Pakistan's entire lifespan.

doesnt effect to the reality that i dont see things with nationalistic views but through the scope of khilafa...

Pakistanis are all nationalists. No, actually they're not nationalists, but rather extreme fascists.
I have no idea what a ''khilifa'' is, but if you're speaking of a caliphate, then I am sorry to break it to you, but Pakistan have no intention or even remotely slightly interested in caliphate. They're actually directly fighting against it.
The only thing Pakistan is interested in, is its struggle to become a 'nation' state. Yes exactly, it not even a proper nation state yet...

when it was finished from 1919 to 1924.Exactly same time period when amir AbdurRehman made nayionalistic treaties for bar pashtuns...lol.co incidence eh?

I have no idea what you're talking about, or how it is relevant to our discussion. Maybe if you educate yourself and took a few English lesson, then this kind of problem wouldn't be here to begin with. I am not saying you should become expert in English, and have no grammatical errors. I am simply saying that you should acquire and understand English to a point, that other people be able to understand you.

Pakistanis and indians do ve a blood of turks,iranians,arabs etc.There is no doubt in this.Just like tatars left their gene pool pretty much in majority parts of the world.

Of course they have. They're all descended of mighty Arabs, Pashtuns/Afghans, Turks, Persians. I am glad that Pakistanis have an inferiority complex that puts everyone but themselves on a pedestal. Yet, kinda sad in the other hand. No wonder you Pakistanis are so quickly to become munafiques.

Calling me murtad ll only add good deeds to my list.You ve an angel on your left side writing your deeds..lol.

I hope there is an Angel writing my deeds. Unlike you, I am not a munafique and have nothing to fear.

There is a saying In Afghanistan: If you're not the thief, do not fear the king.

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The Differences between Major and Minor Hypocrisy:

Major hypocrisy constitutes apostasy, while minor hypocrisy does not.
Major hypocrisy signifies dissimilarity between the inner and outer beliefs, while minor hypocrisy signifies dissimilarity between public and private actions, not beliefs.
Major hypocrisy does not belong to a believers, while minor hypocrisy may belong to a believer.
A person who upholds major hypocrisy does not usually repent, but even if he does so, scholars are at variance with regards to accepting his repentance by a judge. Whereas minor hypocrisy when one upholds it and repents to Allah, Allah will accept his repentance.

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Do you even know how one becomes a spy... or becomes part of an intelligence agency... Even more importantly, what their jobs are... Go learn the basic stuffs, before you throw random terms, which you have no slightest idea what means.

Let me make it clear for you. The industrialized world do not fear the nukes of a third world country. Nukes only have symbolic meaning. In practical use it does more harm than good. Actually even just having them got several negative effect.

In the side note. The US or any other industrialized world is capable of destroying any nuclear attack before it even reaches their country. The most likely scenario would be that the nukes get destroyed in their own country. Basically if Pakistan fires the nuke, it will most likely be destroyed within the Pakistani own range.

Afghanistan got a mutual corporation with the US. We both got the same enemy at our sight.
In the other hand, Pakistan is forced and thrown around by Americans. You yourself said that Pakistan hate America, but yet America forces Pakistan to corporate, and do it bidding. Basically the relation between Pakistan and US is, slave and master. The US orders, and Pakistan obeys. That why no matter how many times Pakistan begged the US to stop drone bombing them, the US just simply ignored and continued.

Do you know what a decade is... 1 decade equals 10 years. Saying a few decades basically implies 60+ years... which is Pakistan's entire lifespan.

Pakistanis are all nationalists. No, actually they're not nationalists, but rather extreme fascists.
I have no idea what a ''khilifa'' is, but if you're speaking of a caliphate, then I am sorry to break it to you, but Pakistan have no intention or even remotely slightly interested in caliphate. They're actually directly fighting against it.
The only thing Pakistan is interested in, is its struggle to become a 'nation' state. Yes exactly, it not even a proper nation state yet...

I have no idea what you're talking about, or how it is relevant to our discussion. Maybe if you educate yourself and took a few English lesson, then this kind of problem wouldn't be here to begin with. I am not saying you should become expert in English, and have no grammatical errors. I am simply saying that you should acquire and understand English to a point, that other people be able to understand you.

Of course they have. They're all descended of mighty Arabs, Pashtuns/Afghans, Turks, Persians. I am glad that Pakistanis have an inferiority complex that puts everyone but themselves on a pedestal. Yet, kinda sad in the other hand. No wonder you Pakistanis are so quickly to become munafiques.
I hope there is an Angel writing my deeds. Unlike you, I am not a munafique and have nothing to fear.

There is a saying In Afghanistan: If you're not the thief, do not fear the king.

All i see in your post is your denial of spies,nukes and its ranges ,the role of nationalism in afghan brainwshing and then passing fatwa like khawarij passes over muslim saying they are murtad.The rule itself averts to you.
My advise read more about nukes ranges a bit.
Pakistani dont bash about indic muslims..like you guys do.Atleast speak up against their govts and politics.I see only appraisal of you guys of your afghan invaded govt.I see no strikes in afg regarding the corruption of afg govt.They are quite happy with it.Few decades means 20 to 30 yrs not 60.The racism and nationalism in afghans is instilled round about 100yrs...even more old than pakisran...not just 10yrs.In 10 yrs it has become apparent.

Caliphate or khilafa ll come for sure inshAllah.Whether someone supports it or not be a country or an empire.With or without the support of govts or countries or majority people...when right time ll come...people ll rise.
Keep up with your jahiliyya of racism suits you.And the nerve of calling people murtad.Now you act like fake mullah.

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There is difference between russian,pakistani,american,iranian pashtuns etc than that of cry for 'pure afghan' that is usually seen here and on top of that pakistani pashtuns are bashed about and the 'pure afghan ' are considered bar pashtuns,hazara tajik uzbek.So much changing the statememts of 'pure afghans'.
I ll duscuss half breeds as well soon.

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All i see in your post is your denial of spies,nukes and its ranges ,

What you mean denying nuke range, spies... What the heck does it even mean. As I said before, learn to comprehend English at least to the degree that makes it possible for others to understand you.

the role of nationalism in afghan brainwshing and then passing fatwa like khawarij passes over muslim saying they are murtad.The rule itself averts to you.

It is kinda funny how you basically describe Pakistan, but instead of mentioning Pakistan, you simply replace it with Afghans. The brainwashing of Pakistanis happened the day Pakistan was created. Every single ethnicity residing in the area called Pakistan today, wanted justice. Baloch, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Bangladesh, all of them asked for equal rights within Pakistan, but got responded with bombs. I may open a thread regarding this in the near future to explain in more details.
The fatwas was also passed by Pakistani mullahs/government/people against Afghans. You guys are nothing but munafiques.

My advise read more about nukes ranges a bit.

I already have, and have researched the subject many times. The nuke range is based on the launcher, if that what you're asking. The more important thing is, what the nuke range have anything to do with the topic...

Pakistani dont bash about indic muslims..like you guys do.

Afghans have never bashed indic Muslims, unlike you guys. Whose inferiority complex does nothing but bash on them. Why did Bangladesh get separated from you guys, go ahead tell me.

Atleast speak up against their govts and politics.I see only appraisal of you guys of your afghan invaded govt.I see no strikes in afg regarding the corruption of afg govt.They are quite happy with it.

The most critical people against their own government is the Afghans. Since the day one, Afghans have been critical of their government. Unlike Pakistanis, who bombs an entire province and make more than 1 million people on the run from their own houses. After displacing more than 1 million people, they are not even allowed in other provinces of their own country. Yes, I am talking about north wazirstan, if you haven't figured it out yet.

Few decades means 20 to 30 yrs not 60.

A few decades means anything from 20 years to 90 years. After reaching 100 years, then it becomes a century.

The racism and nationalism in afghans is instilled round about 100yrs...even more old than pakisran...not just 10yrs.In 10 yrs it has become apparent.

The last 100 years we were there and teaching people like you Islam. We were the forefront against British India, and the only country who remained independent from British claws.

Caliphate or khilafa ll come for sure inshAllah.Whether someone supports it or not be a country or an empire.With or without the support of govts or countries or majority people...when right time ll come...people ll rise.

Inshallah it will. The day when true Muslims rise and teach a munafique like you some Islam.

Keep up with your jahiliyya of racism suits you.And the nerve of calling people murtad.Now you act like fake mullah.

I have never in my life said anything racist toward anyone. Yes, I have been angry and insulted due to my short temper, but never have I said anything that was remotely racist. Unlike the munafique you're, I can give at least 100 quotes of yours and prove your racism, and fake mullah-i-tup. Just say the word, and I even make a whole new thread dedicated to your quotes, and I will even analyses your quotes. So before you humiliate yourself, I as a Muslim will give you a brotherly advice, stop your racism toward Afghans, before I expose every racist quotes of yours, and the murtad tendency you have.
I forgive kids, ignorant people or people who act out of emotions, but beware that I will never forgive a munafique.

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What you mean denying nuke range, spies... What the heck does it even mean. As I said before, learn to comprehend English at least to the degree that makes it possible for others to understand you.




It is kinda funny how you basically describe Pakistan, but instead of mentioning Pakistan, you simply replace it with Afghans. The brainwashing of Pakistanis happened the day Pakistan was created. Every single ethnicity residing in the area called Pakistan today, wanted justice. Baloch, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Bangladesh, all of them asked for equal rights within Pakistan, but got responded with bombs. I may open a thread regarding this in the near future to explain in more details.
The fatwas was also passed by Pakistani mullahs/government/people against Afghans. You guys are nothing but munafiques.


I already have, and have researched the subject many times. The nuke range is based on the launcher, if that what you're asking. The more important thing is, what the nuke range have anything to do with the topic...



Afghans have never bashed indic Muslims, unlike you guys. Whose inferiority complex does nothing but bash on them. Why did Bangladesh get separated from you guys, go ahead tell me.


The most critical people against their own government is the Afghans. Since the day one, Afghans have been critical of their government. Unlike Pakistanis, who bombs an entire province and make more than 1 million people on the run from their own houses. After displacing more than 1 million people, they are not even allowed in other provinces of their own country. Yes, I am talking about north wazirstan, if you haven't figured it out yet.



A few decades means anything from 20 years to 90 years. After reaching 100 years, then it becomes a century.



The last 100 years we were there and teaching people like you Islam. We were the forefront against British India, and the only country who remained independent from British claws.



Inshallah it will. The day when true Muslims rise and teach a munafique like you some Islam.



I have never in my life said anything racist toward anyone. Yes, I have been angry and insulted due to my short temper, but never have I said anything that was remotely racist. Unlike the munafique you're, I can give at least 100 quotes of yours and prove your racism, and fake mullah-i-tup. Just say the word, and I even make a whole new thread dedicated to your quotes, and I will even analyses your quotes. So before you humiliate yourself, I as a Muslim will give you a brotherly advice, stop your racism toward Afghans, before I expose every racist quotes of yours, and the murtad tendency you have.
I forgive kids, ignorant people or people who act out of emotions, but beware that I will never forgive a munafique.

There are certain nukes that even stopped with in a country have their ranges of damage than can go to target countries.And no nuke can easily be neutralised right in the start but covers range upto mid atleast before neutralised.

Bengalis fate was as much decided by politicians as today you see musharraf or nawaz baldy.Nothing to do with masses of pakistanis.These are bunch of politicians like warlords of afg...However racism in afghans is such that they cant stand their own country fellows let alone pakistanis or indics etc.And this is prevelant in public not politicians only.Seems like politicians are copied fully by afg masses unlike us who criticise our govts.

Go out on expedition of my quotes ...you wont find anything thats without evidences lol.
Pakistan is used by americabs only...afg is used by russians,pakistanis,anericans,indians now...every tom ...and harry decides you guys ' fate.Why? Because when you fight for racism...not religion Allah humiliates.Same ll be fateofpakistanis ifthey follow same footstepsof racism...which you guys are trying best to instill.

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The last 100 years we were there and teaching people like you Islam. We were the forefront against British India, and the only country who remained independent from British claws.*

The last 100 yrs your amir signed treaty of seperation for pashtuns and hit nail in last coffin.Yet i see fans of amir Abdur Rehman.Not only this but later on secularism was intilled so much that its effects can be seen even today.Islam was left for poor and villagers while rich got secular as much as pakistanis.So whats the fuss over criticising others and not accepting own faults.

1970 zahir shah era was like bhutto ..secular.

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@DSM...i appreciate your efforts for pashtuns with regard to islam and liberation of lands as such but many afg dont think it like this way.They see this only through race issue...I dont deny pakistanis who are becoming secular by media day by day...and ones seeing through islamic point of way are less on both sides.But we ve people preaching and refirming lives of seculars...i see no effort on afghan side.

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There are certain nukes that even stopped with in a country have their ranges of damage than can go to target countries.And no nuke can easily be neutralised right in the start but covers range upto mid atleast before neutralised.

Wow, I thought your English was bad before, lol. I couldn't understand neither head or the tail in your comment.

Bengalis fate was as much decided by politicians as today you see musharraf or nawaz baldy.Nothing to do with masses of pakistanis.These are bunch of politicians like warlords of afg...

It was the masses of Pakistanis that had the racist tendency. When their British masters told them that they were a matial race. The Pakistani took it to their head, and started acting on it. When Bangladeshis won the vote fair and squre. The Pakistanis invaded and committed crimes not even kuffr would do.

However racism in afghans is such that they cant stand their own country fellows let alone pakistanis or indics etc.And this is prevelant in public not politicians only.Seems like politicians are copied fully by afg masses unlike us who criticise our govts.

You have never seen an Afghan in real life, and you haven't even been near Afghanistan. So try your luck with your Murtad tendency somewhere else.
In Afghanistan, not a single person misses a prayer. Unlike in Pakistan where they watch chubby women dance, and drink alcohol til their heart contains.

Go out on expedition of my quotes ...you wont find anything thats without evidences lol.

Your English... its so bad... Did you just say that I wont find anything without evidence, lol. If this was a comedy show, you would definitely win.
Even in this discussion of ours, I can find at least 10 instances that you have been racist.

Pakistan is used by americabs only...afg is used by russians,pakistanis,anericans,indians now...every tom ...and harry decides you guys ' fate.Why? Because when you fight for racism...not religion Allah humiliates.Same ll be fateofpakistanis ifthey follow same footstepsof racism...which you guys are trying best to instill.

Afghanistan have beaten the Persian, British, Russians, Indians and any other force that tried to lay a finger in our land. Unlike Pakistan who obey on a command from the US. Even in map, the Pakistani country is shaped like a dog.
Allah have truly humiliated indecent people. Losing 3 wars in a row against Indians, and shaping your country to what you guys are. Gave freedom to brave Bangladeshi people from the clutch of munafique country of Pakistan.
God in the other hand, have shaped Afghanistan as a heart. A symbol for the world to see, that Afghanistan have fought for Islam for centuries, and now have become a heart of it

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DSM0305,

What you mean denying nuke range, spies... What the heck does it even mean. As I said before, learn to comprehend English at least to the degree that makes it possible for others to understand you.

I ve made it clear that its not possible to neutralise nukes right in start...takes midway distance.Range too goes to usa s fav countries.

It was the masses of Pakistanis that had the racist tendency. When their British masters told them that they were a matial race. The Pakistani took it to their head, and started acting on it. When Bangladeshis won the vote fair and squre. The Pakistanis invaded and committed crimes not even kuffr would do.*

Afghans have been brainwashed from head to toe by first brits,then russians and then americans.I see it no different as you say so...rather 3 times brain washing is worse.

Also see contradicting statements to your claim of islam and promoting racism.

Afghanistan have beaten the Persian, British, Russians, Indians and any other force that tried to lay a finger in our land. Unlike Pakistan who obey on a command from the US. Even in map, the Pakistani country is shaped like a dog.*
Allah have truly humiliated indecent people. Losing 3 wars in a row against Indians, and shaping your country to what you guys are. Gave freedom to brave Bangladeshi people from the clutch of munafique country of Pakistan.
God in the other hand, have shaped Afghanistan as a heart. A symbol for the world to see, that Afghanistan have fought for Islam for centuries, and now have become a heart of it*

Racism again.
I ve yet to see more racist comments from you...

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I ve made it clear that its not possible to neutralise nukes right in start...takes midway distance.Range too goes to usa s fav countries.

What in the god name are you talking about...

Afghans have been brainwashed from head to toe by first brits,then russians and then americans.I see it no different as you say so...rather 3 times brain washing is worse.

If brainwashing means defeating the kuffr, then I guess we are brainwashed. While you Pakistanis licked British boots for 100 years, we Afghans were free and promoted Islam.
So spread your murtad tendency somewhere else.

Also see contradicting statements to your claim of islam and promoting racism.

Racism again.

Do you even know what racism is... Racism is when you hate someone due to their race. Defeating kuffr empires is considered a honor, not racism.
The way you guys threated Bangladeshi people is what racism is. And with gods grace, the brave Bangladeshi rebelled and got their freedom.
One can also see the punishment of god toward munafiques. One can see on a munafique like you, and the lack of knowledge you got. Its a punishment by god for your murtad tendency.

I ve yet to see more racist comments from you...

''I have yet to see racist comments from you'' means that you haven't seen any racist comments form me. Well, I am glad that you finally accepted the fact that I haven't said anything racist