Pakistan's Swat Operation and Failure

[Toramana]

Promotion reports are signed and finalized in June and are signed in August. Only if you knew :D

Haha what a joke the wife of a Lt General visiting the Army Chief. Who told you this? Your friend who used to be inside the Army House :D

Reports are written in December. Promotion are handed in June, moron.

The name of the ISPR chief at that time was Major General Shaukat Sultan. And it was a common knowledge at that time that he was the favorite of General Musharaf because his wife was closer to Musharaf.

But a lowly Paki with mind bastar-dized by the Mutalia Pakistan propaganda may be in the habit of seeing their morally depraved generals as gods.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

1) The bank that Agha Hassan Abdi founded was named as United Bank Limited, UBL.

2) Just visit the slums of Pindi and Islamabad and see what the Afghans do for money?

Last but not the least, Are you nationalists the supporters of an Army operation or the opposers?

Come on man have some decency. A poor refugee with 3 to 6 kids, no food or potable water even doing physical prostitution is far better... far far better as a human being then a pot bellied bungalow endowed general with 3 drivers acting as judge, jury, executioner, and chief mercenary (international prostitute) for the imperium.

Remember the Prophet Muhammad (S) has said that by a simple act of kindness to animal a physical prostitute can go to heaven... but you and I know what he said about those that create fasad and spill blood of innocents. So I hardly think the Pot bellied general is in a figuratively better position than the poor Afghan paisha ( I assume that is what you are insinuating about them...).

[Toramana]

1) The bank that Agha Hassan Abdi founded was named as United Bank Limited, UBL.

2) Just visit the slums of Pindi and Islamabad and see what the Afghans do for money?

Last but not the least, Are you nationalists the supporters of an Army operation or the opposers?

Moron, before opening that ignorant mouth of yours, go do some research. Paki media and Mutalia Pakistan are not the only sources that you get the entire true information from. Agha Hassan Abedi was the person who established BCCI. And it is a fact that high Paki govt official used to entertain Arab shiekhs with prostitutes in 1970s in the hope of getting aid money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agha_Hasan_Abedi

Rest, as for Afghans and Rawalpindi slums, Afghans are doing what a dignified brave people should do, i.e., hard-work. Had any other ilk passed through the same ordeal as Afghans have been through the past few decades, their mothers and sisters would have long ended up in the harems of the Arab overlords.

Bending to and serving invaders from Greeks to Kushans to Turks to Mughals to British is what you people have been doing throughout history. So think a bit before talking about others. Don't forget that seven of your generations were born to Britsh slavery(before that under Mughal subjugation). One can guess how much did all these invades contribute to the gene pool of your lot.

[کیش]

The reason people who live in the west can comment about the economy, government, and legislative of other countries is we have waaay better education. There are no biased, or exaggerated teachings of a subject.

Pakistan sucks as a nation (Afghanistan obviously too) but the problem is their youth are brainwashed into believing how much they don't suck but are very educated, historically relevent and powerful.

Why is their still people taking dumps in the middle of the street in cities like Peshawer? I mean come on, you won't find that in any city in American (even rural areas) urinating at most. The government is bias towards ethnicities of other provinces. Going so deep that they don't care how much they destroy, kill, steal from those other ethnicities.

But, Pakistan Zindabaad!! !!

[Toramana]

This low-life Paki thinks we are lying. Below is the information about the Shiekh Zaid Bin Nahyan link with BCCI. It was a common knowledge then that the Lahore branch of BCCI supplied the newly rich Arab Shiekhs with prostitutes.

"One of the first to comprehend the opportunities offered by the oil boom in the Persian Gulf, Mr Abedi pioneered close economic collaboration in the private sector between Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). The UAE President, Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, extended his patronage to UBL operations both in Pakistan and abroad."

[Toramana]

http://fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/

[Toramana]

THE BCCI AFFAIR

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
1. BCCI CONSTITUTED INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL CRIME ON A MASSIVE AND GLOBAL SCALE.

BCCI's unique criminal structure -- an elaborate corporate spider-web with BCCI's founder, Agha Hasan Abedi and his assistant, Swaleh Naqvi, in the middle -- was an essential component of its spectacular growth, and a guarantee of its eventual collapse. The structure was conceived by Abedi and managed by Naqvi for the specific purpose of evading regulation or control by governments. It functioned to frustrate the full understanding of BCCI's operations by anyone.

Unlike any ordinary bank, BCCI was from its earliest days made up of multiplying layers of entities, related to one another through an impenetrable series of holding companies, affiliates, subsidiaries, banks-within-banks, insider dealings and nominee relationships. By fracturing corporate structure, record keeping, regulatory review, and audits, the complex BCCI family of entities created by Abedi was able to evade ordinary legal restrictions on the movement of capital and goods as a matter of daily practice and routine. In creating BCCI as a vehicle fundamentally free of government control, Abedi developed in BCCI an ideal mechanism for facilitating illicit activity by others, including such activity by officials of many of the governments whose laws BCCI was breaking.

BCCI's criminality included fraud by BCCI and BCCI customers involving billions of dollars; money laundering in Europe, Africa, Asia, and the Americas; BCCI's bribery of officials in most of those locations; support of terrorism, arms trafficking, and the sale of nuclear technologies; management of prostitution; the commission and facilitation of income tax evasion, smuggling, and illegal immigration; illicit purchases of banks and real estate; and a panoply of financial crimes limited only by the imagination of its officers and customers.

Among BCCI's principal mechanisms for committing crimes were its use of shell corporations and bank confidentiality and secrecy havens; layering of its corporate structure; its use of front-men and nominees, guarantees and buy-back arrangements; back-to-back financial documentation among BCCI controlled entities, kick-backs and bribes, the intimidation of witnesses, and the retention of well-placed insiders to discourage governmental action.

2. BCCI SYSTEMATICALLY BRIBED WORLD LEADERS AND POLITICAL FIGURES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

BCCI's systematically relied on relationships with, and as necessary, payments to, prominent political figures in most of the 73 countries in which BCCI operated. BCCI records and testimony from former BCCI officials together document BCCI's systematic securing of Central Bank deposits of Third World countries; its provision of favors to political figures; and its reliance on those figures to provide BCCI itself with favors in times of need.

These relationships were systematically turned to BCCI's use to generate cash needed to prop up its books. BCCI would obtain an important figure's agreement to give BCCI deposits from a country's Central Bank, exclusive handling of a country's use of U.S. commodity credits, preferential treatment on the processing of money coming in and out of the country where monetary controls were in place, the right to own a bank, secretly if necessary, in countries where foreign banks were not legal, or other questionable means of securing assets or profits. In return, BCCI would pay bribes to

http://fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/01exec.htm

[Smarty]

A young fresh lieutenant, a pathan, was bragging to us that middle aged wife of a punjabi colonel has set her eyes on him and is interested in doing sex with him. One guy asked him what has possessed him that he is having scandal with old lady. He replied vulgarly, "who said i am interested in screwing old lady, my eyes are set on her young daugher". Then he made some vulgar gestures. Another guy asked him why the risk?, he said "for promotion, in good books, the wife would talk her husband into giving me safarish".
Wives of pathan faujis, are once decent ladies, but their beghairat husbands force them into wife-swapping or sending them to their bosses. They also lose haya and sharam and begin to do masti with junior and young recuits. Its army culture which is corrupt and degenerated, faujis become like this for higher pay and quick promotion.

[jankhan]

Proof of your false allegations if you have any? And if you don't have any this is called 'Bohtaan' so avoid what you don't know about..

I've met Army officials ranking from common soldiers to Generals and I can for sure tell you that this thing that you're referring to I never witnessed. If you have witnessed or have proof for it. Share it, else your empty words don't mean a thing.
[MENTION=17535]jankhan[/MENTION]

So they can't be published but you still came to know about. And you know that because you have been to Army and their mentality, is the stupidiest reason you are giving me. Because I breath with Army look at this avatar carefully the sign on my right it says 'Pakistan Navy Central Library' and you want me to believe you because you have met and you know about Army mentality. Ghalay kena mara!
Ok, you have been to, so why don't you meet me someday, and show me a single person that you know of? What happens gets published as well from example we all know about the General Yahya's very personal General Rani don't we?

Yes sure, we will meet someday if you leave karachi and come to pashtunkhwa or islamabad.

[jankhan]

Shehbaz khan wrora, one clarification.
They are doing all this no salah no saum and other acts, i have no problem these are their personal acts but my problem is calling themselves mujahideen and shaheed and ghazi and jihad. please don't mis use the name of Islam for your vested interests. these two are contradictory actions. and i have problem with the munafiqat of army and isi. they want islam and law for others but themselves they are holy cows.
please ask your army friends next time about this as well when you meet them.
thanks.

[Kushan Prince]

Moron, before opening that ignorant mouth of yours, go do some research. Paki media and Mutalia Pakistan are not the only sources that you get the entire true information from. Agha Hassan Abedi was the person who established BCCI. And it is a fact that high Paki govt official used to entertain Arab shiekhs with prostitutes in 1970s in the hope of getting aid money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agha_Hasan_Abedi

Rest, as for Afghans and Rawalpindi slums, Afghans are doing what a dignified brave people should do, i.e., hard-work. Had any other ilk passed through the same ordeal as Afghans have been through the past few decades, their mothers and sisters would have long ended up in the harems of the Arab overlords.

Bending to and serving invaders from Greeks to Kushans to Turks to Mughals to British is what you people have been doing throughout history. So think a bit before talking about others. Don't forget that seven of your generations were born to Britsh slavery(before that under Mughal subjugation). One can guess how much did all these invades contribute to the gene pool of your lot.

I'm glad you brought this. The former paki president mushsaraf was notable for attending private screenings at night clubs with eastern european prostitutes to fill his sexual desires, not only that but he offered one of them to come back to pakistan with him until after laughing in his face.

A short quote from this article,

Former Pakistani ruler Pervez Musharraf, who came back to Pakistan yesterday after more than four years, is already craving to go back to Dubai, UAE.
Reportedly, Musharraf is already missing the Lebanese belly dancers that he used to frequent every night in Dubai.
“We had requested few of the favorite Lebanese dancers of Mr. Musharraf to relocate to Pakistan, so that General doesn’t miss them, but the dancers burst into laughter as soon as they heard about relocating to Pakistan,” Mr. Ahmed, a close aide of the former dictator told Faking News

http://www.fakingnews.firstpost.com/2013/03/pervez-musharraf-missing-exotic-belly-dancers-of-dubai/

caught on video in action

https:///tune.pk/video/25282/pervez-...i-party-night#

"Dirty" musharaf and pakis have no shame for themselves.