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    KABUL—Afghan presidential candidate Abdullah Abdullah Wednesday said he is suspending cooperation with the country's election commission because of its alleged bias, precipitating a political crisis that threatens to destabilize the country as foreign troops head home.

    "We don't have trust in the commission and in their conduct," Mr. Abdullah told reporters. "We suspend our engagement with the commission. We ask for the counting process to be stopped immediately."

    Mr. Abdullah, a former foreign minister and civil-war era mujahedeen leader, questioned the commission's assertion of a higher-than-expected turnout in Saturday's runoff election, alleging widespread fraud on behalf of his rival, former finance minister Ashraf Ghani.

    The election commission said about 7 million Afghans cast their votes on Saturday, up from 6.6 million in the first round on April 5. While turnout was largely the same or lower in much of the country, initial tallies indicated a dramatic surge—in some provinces nearly threefold—in the areas of eastern Afghanistan that are Mr. Ghani's base.

    Mr. Abdullah previously demanded the removal of the country's chief electoral officer, Ziaulhaq Amarkhil, a request that so far hasn't been satisfied. A spokesman for Mr. Ghani wasn't immediately reachable for comment. Mr. Ghani's representatives have attributed higher voter turnout in parts of the country to better voter mobilization.

    Noor Mohammad Noor, a spokesman for the election commission, said vote counting would continue as planned. "The process is ongoing," said Mr. Noor. He added that the candidates must act in accordance with the code of conduct that they agreed to with the election commission. The code of conduct says candidates must cooperate with the commission and accept its decisions.

    The election's winner would replace President Hamid Karzai, who has ruled the country since the 2001 U.S. invasion, in the first democratic transfer of power in the country's history. A legitimate transition is indispensable for the continuation of massive international aid on which the Afghan government depends, especially after the U.S.-led coalition's combat mission ends in December.

    Mr. Abdullah Wednesday floated the possibility of a forming a joint commission between his representatives and those of Mr. Ghani, under the supervision of the United Nations, to adjudicate the dispute over the election's outcome.

    For the time being, he said his campaign team will pull its monitors from vote-counting centers and from the headquarters of Afghanistan's election commission in Kabul.

    In the first round, Mr. Abdullah garnered 45% of the vote, and Mr. Ghani 31.6%.

    The election's preliminary results are due to be released July 2. Mr. Abdullah's campaign officials say they believe that, thanks to the alleged ballot-stuffing, Mr. Ghani currently has an advantage of as many as one million votes.

    —Nathan Hodge contributed to this article

  • #2
    Sour grapes.

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    • #3
      Is there any possibility that Ashraf Ghani wins?

      Why this hue and cry, Abdullah should be sure of his victory

      Any news what Ashraf Ghani says these days?????????

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      • #4
        Some of the source's put Dr Ghani ahead of Abdullah,could be the reason why he's crying and blaming the election comission of rigging
        "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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        • #5
          there is no election, this is a contest between who can out fraud the other.

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          • #6
            I have no doubt in my mind Ghani will win. He is already leading up by 15% to the extent that abdullah is crying "rigged."
            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

            -Old Pashtun proverb




            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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            • #7
              i am pretty sure it is rigged.

              abdullah went from being ahead like 15 points to now being down like 4.

              the whole thing is a charade, abdullah just got out-abdullah'd. he should of seen it coming.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #8
                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                i am pretty sure it is rigged.

                abdullah went from being ahead like 15 points to now being down like 4.

                the whole thing is a charade, abdullah just got out-abdullah'd. he should of seen it coming.
                What you fail to realize is the first round included 10 or so candidates and this one only involved 2. Abdullah 2X got 45 percent in first round and 45 percent in this round…the simple truth is Abdullah had surrounded himself with Anti-Pashton folks …so he failed to carry the Pashtun electorate. So how is that charade?
                Over all the pissing on pot of democracy by Abdullah only strengthen Taliban—Porkistan position— so what you stay is understandable…for the past 13 years you, Kushal and rest of Paki boys have been insisting that Afghan constitution and democracy is a sham affair, but I wonder what the alternative you offer are? –One eyed village idiot rule until the cow comes home?
                I must say that the bar of democracy is abysmally low in Afghanistan and everyone knows that the elctoral system has many flaws…but what is the alternative-return to 90s?
                ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                • #9
                  The alternative is for you to pick up a gun and fight the one eyed village idiot. Don't tell foreigners to do it.

                  What you should have done was make peace with the one eyed village idiot back in 2002 instead of promoting this Tajik fascist ideology which leaves the majority of the population marginalized and have the porkys use that marginalized population against your Tajik fascist government. Don't be greedy, share with your people.

                  And don't try to say that the most corrupt country in the world according to international orgs is all of a sudden have a legit election. Ghani out frauded Abdullah. If Abdullah was smart, he should have told Karzai that he was not for federalism and then do it anyways after he was president. The doctor is no politician. By saying that he was for federalism, he made enemies at the independent electorial commission which is controlled by Karzai.
                  Last edited by khushal; 06-19-2014, 01:11 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    The alternative is for you to pick up a gun and fight the one eyed village idiot. Don't tell foreigners to do it.
                    Atta boy..how come your forget your Paki and Arab boyfriends or wait you don’t consider them foreigners do you? Im pretty sure you live in comfort of West and your hero lives in comforts of Quatta and Karachi but you romantic the suicide bombing and terrorism on behest of Porkistan as justifiable.
                    What you should have done was make peace with the one eyed village idiot back in 2002 instead of promoting this Tajik fascist ideology which leaves the majority of the population marginalized and have the porkys use that marginalized population against your Tajik fascist government. Don't be greedy, share with your people.
                    And don't try to say that the most corrupt country in the world according to international orgs is all of a sudden have a legit election. Ghani out frauded Abdullah. If Abdullah was smart, he should have told Karzai that he was not for federalism and then do it anyways after he was president. The doctor is no politician. By saying that he was for federalism, he made enemies at the independent electorial commission which is controlled by Karzai.


                    You admit the one eye village idiot is nothing but a condom of pakis. Good we are progressing here. Let’s face the truth, the foreigners invaded b/c of your Arab boyfriends which were more valuable to your village idiot leader then pasthons interest and or the pashtons that were killed in process of invasion. Nonetheless Karzia with all his shortcomings has done his utmost to make peace but at the end these village idiots are nothing but condom of Pakistan---this is why any Taliban leader that try to reach back to Karzia were murdered by ISI.

                    Instead of being all defensive why you don’t state your alternative…come on I’m all ears.
                    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                      Atta boy..how come your forget your Paki and Arab boyfriends or wait you don’t consider them foreigners do you? Im pretty sure you live in comfort of West and your hero lives in comforts of Quatta and Karachi but you romantic the suicide bombing and terrorism on behest of Porkistan as justifiable.




                      You admit the one eye village idiot is nothing but a condom of pakis. Good we are progressing here. Let’s face the truth, the foreigners invaded b/c of your Arab boyfriends which were more valuable to your village idiot leader then pasthons interest and or the pashtons that were killed in process of invasion. Nonetheless Karzia with all his shortcomings has done his utmost to make peace but at the end these village idiots are nothing but condom of Pakistan---this is why any Taliban leader that try to reach back to Karzia were murdered by ISI.

                      Instead of being all defensive why you don’t state your alternative…come on I’m all ears.
                      He has no alternative, like any brainwashed fundy of the west he lacks future vision.

                      Ghani is ahead, that is what I hear most of the time in the Afghan news, how much precent I don't know, but I guess, abdullah knows now for sure that he will not win and this is the reason he is crying like a baby.
                      Last edited by Khostai; 06-19-2014, 12:30 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        there is no election, this is a contest between who can out fraud the other.
                        Karzai has won the contest, and will be the 'elected' president for several months as this sham election goes to the court system. The dispute could last until March 2015. The result is the full US withdrawal by end of this year instead of 2016. This is seems to be the result of Karzai-Taliban talks.

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                        • #13
                          The BBC's Lyse Doucet asks whether dramatic events in Iraq, where insurgents have swept into major cities, could be repeated in Afghanistan.


                          Karzai's full interview with BBC.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                            He has no alternative, like any brainwashed fundy of the west he lacks future vision.

                            Ghani is ahead, that is what I hear most of the time in the Afghan news, how much precent I don't know, but I guess, abdullah knows now for sure that he will not win and this is the reason he is crying like a baby.
                            Come on Khostai, I gave him an alternative. Didn't you at one time say its better to join the Taliban than to accept a gov that would marginalize the majority of the population when Abdullah was ahead of Ghani in the first round. Well most afghans think like that because in the current gov has been doing the same thing.

                            It is evident that you don't care as long as people like you, the Pashtun nationalist, are in power which makes you no different than the people you accuse of only creating destability to grab power.

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                            • #15
                              @Admin,
                              For some reason the site wont let me Quote other people in certain pages. FYI

                              @Azmul,
                              I gave you an alternative, a very simple one but you are too afraid of what you have to do. Just leave it to the indigenous afghans, western afghans like yourself and khostai have neither the balls nor the stomach of what needs to be done.

                              But everyone know that the US did not invade because of Arabs. If that were the case then why not invade Pakistan when they knew for years where that particular wanted Arab and all his friends were. All of them were found in Pakistan. Why invade Iraq whose government was the best killers of those particular Arabs.

                              Besides that Karzai and his administration were turning over his own afghans to be tortured on US bases, He let mercenary armies run free shooting who ever they liked and allowing them to bring drug warlords to transform his own population to nothing but a bunch of drug addicts.

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