Why have Tajiks always supported foreigners ?

[Bost Bastan News]

Dude 90% of Afghanistan income comes from US taxpayers. Your spewing out mental diarrhea.

The world is owned by the people that control the seas. Wake up ghul. Land routes are meaningless without the sea. This is why Europe rose while the Ottomans fell. The Ottomans were using their resources to acquire land trading routes while the Europeans were using their resources to control the seas by building powerful Navy's. Guess who is ruling who today.

Central Asia will eventually be controlled by the ones who control the Indian Ocean. Either the central Asians have to come down and invade and take their border to the sea (which I doubt will happen because central Asian idiot like yourself have to much hatred for each other) or South Asia ie Paki and India will always have influence over Central Asia. Today Afghanistan is the battleground for this struggle and it looks like that struggle is moving northward. All the US did was just slow down that northward movement.

I was refering to the local and civil market... not NATO fundings which is not 90% but 80% (60% of it is spend for security forces) ....Ottomans lost their territory because of Arab revolts and European colonialism on the basis devide and rule.. Arabs and other minorities like Kurds were supported to ring Ottomans.. like always you write your own version of history acting like you are a prof of history, politics and geography ... hahaha I read just three days ago that Turkey is currently the 3rd strongest economy in Europe ... they do this without any real sea-trading.... who will let us to control any sea? Uzbekistan? Pakistan? The Baloches themselves? Iranians? WHOOOOO? ... you have to live with that what you have and do the best of it!!! Crying for not having a port don´t help you either!

[khushal]

America need Pakistan when it has 50 000 - 100 000 soldiers in Afghanistan but it doesn´t need Pakistan anymore if their troop strenghths consists of 10 000- 15 000 soldiers. Why do you think US build large airports in Kabul, Herat, Mazar ... ???? It´s very easy. The costs of providing those 100 000 soldiers with weapons, tanks, ammunitions, buggies via planes is much higher than the sea-route but we are no more talking about 50 000 - 100 000 men. Politically, US is still Pakistan´s ally while a political rival of Iran. If Iran would have been an ally (which is right now turning to be one) US had decided to come to Afghanistan via Iran. Why didn´t US chose to come to Afghanistan through northern routes which are even more cheaper than via Pakistan or Iran from Turkey? Because of the Russians. But now US want to use the northern routes through Uzbekistan. So Pakistan will no more play any important roles. Uzbekistan even offered US to let them to move into Afghanistan freely if US signs a treaty that allow Uzbekistan to own all weapons US is going to ''leave'' in Afghanistan ... Afghanistan doesn´t need a sea. For what? Afghanistan need the right politicians and the right politics. The northern routes, like the ancient ''Silk-road'' that is going to be revived again will serve Afghanistan more than enough. If we don´t have much to export then having sea acces is meaningless. But to make you happy, we already have a sea-acces. We signed a treaty with Iran.

ooooooooooooooooh, iran. so being at the mercy of iran will solve all your problems. climb out of your slave mentality. become a man for once and stop bending over for others. you must learn to realize your better than that.

[Bost Bastan News]

ooooooooooooooooh, iran. so being at the mercy of iran will solve all your problems. climb out of your slave mentality. become a man for once and stop bending over for others. you must learn to realize your better than that.

You want sea-acces and when you get it you call others as slaves .. those who made it possible for you.. what is wrong with you?????? If we had signed it with Pakistan you would call me now Pakistani slave. You can not conquer the whole world just to have everywhere sea-access. In the 21th century diplomacy is everything.

[khushal]

I was refering to the local and civil market... not NATO fundings which is not 90% but 80% (60% of it is spend for security forces) ....Ottomans lost their territory because of Arab revolts and European colonialism on the basis devide and rule.. Arabs and other minorities like Kurds were supported to ring Ottomans.. like always you write your own version of history acting like you are a prof of history, politics and geography ... hahaha I read just three days ago that Turkey is currently the 3rd strongest economy in Europe ... they do this without any real sea-trading.... who will let us to control any sea? Uzbekistan? Pakistan? The Baloches themselves? Iranians? WHOOOOO? ... you have to live with that what you have and do the best of it!!! Crying for not having a port don´t help you either!

Ya, but the Europeans had the ability to divide and rule because they had the wealth to do it by controlling the seas and trading routes. They could wage war anywhere in the world because they could easily bring their forces to any ones land and pillage their resources and use those resources to sustain their empires.

hahaha, turkey the 3rd strongest economy in Europe. It just shows us how little you know about economics. They are talking about growth rate, not economic strength. Go look at GDP and you will see who is strong and who is weak.

Its not about crying but realizing what needs to be done. All you Tajiks are doing is setting yourselves up for disaster. Your leaders are short sighted visionaries.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

I was watching once a program on tv related to the Afghanistan civlian supply route through Pakistan and its future through Iran.

one of the expert mentioned that Unlike Pakistan who is a blind follower of Muslim ummah and so called thekedaar.And iran is a country who look for its interest first and than Muslim ummah false concept later.

Pakistan agrees to the UN convention of giving sea access to land locked country with minimum taxes while iran doesnt.Hence a Afghanistan trader will have to pay 3times or even more through iran than Pakistan.

Iran relations might be better with Afghansitan because they have a proper fence along the border with afghanistan and doesnt follow the false concept of muslim ummah and always look for its interest first.

He also stressed that Pakistan should Ban the Afghansitan civilian supply line because we don't earn anything in transit and they already have iranian route now.other than this with UN Pakistan can play the cards of operation along the border of Pak-Afghanistan and Ban the route.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Transit_Trade_of_Land-locked_States

[khushal]

I was watching once a program on tv related to the Afghanistan civlian supply route through Pakistan and its future through Iran.

one of the expert mentioned that Unlike Pakistan who is a blind follower of Muslim ummah and so called thekedaar.And iran is a country who look for its interest first and than Muslim ummah false concept later.

Pakistan agrees to the UN convention of giving sea access to land locked country with minimum taxes while iran doesnt.Hence a Afghanistan trader will have to pay 3times or even more through iran than Pakistan.

Iran relations might be better with Afghansitan because they have a proper fence along the border with afghanistan and doesnt follow the false concept of muslim ummah and always look for its interest first.

He also stressed that Pakistan should Ban the Afghansitan civilian supply line because we don't earn anything in transit and they already have iranian route now.other than this with UN Pakistan can play the cards of operation along the border of Pak-Afghanistan and Ban the route.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convent...-locked_States

Afghanistans economy and trade is tied to Pakistan.

Zahir Shah and Daud's pashtunistan policy forced Afghansitan rely on its northern neighbor, the Soviet Union. That policy made Afghanistan a slave of the Soviet Union. That policy put Afghanistan on a destructive path.
Bost Baston wants to revive that policy without realizing that he is repeating Zahir Shah and Dauds mistakes. He does not know history.

Daud Actually realized his mistake and was trying to diversify his economic partners and include Pakistan and Saudi Arabia before the communists killed him and they killed him because they did not want to lose the slave status of the Soviet Union. They had the slave mentality of people like Bost Bason and yourself.

[Bost Bastan News]

Afghanistans economy and trade is tied to Pakistan.

Zahir Shah and Daud's pashtunistan policy forced Afghansitan rely on its northern neighbor, the Soviet Union. That policy made Afghanistan a slave of the Soviet Union. That policy put Afghanistan on a destructive path.
Bost Baston wants to revive that policy without realizing that he is repeating Zahir Shah and Dauds mistakes. He does not know history.

Daud Actually realized his mistake and was trying to diversify his economic partners and include Pakistan and Saudi Arabia before the communists killed him and they killed him because they did not want to lose the slave status of the Soviet Union. They had the slave mentality of people like Bost Bason and yourself.

The part about Sardar Dawood Khan it was me who teached you. Believe me my friend, I have many privat contacts to some Users here and they are laughing about you and your history-creating-mashinery and lies. Maybe most people don´t participate from Arg here or in general from all areas where Pashtuns live but they are reading many things what you produce.

I did not say Pakistan is no important for us. Pakistan is important for us, for us as Pashtuns Pakistan is closer than Iran. Without Pakistan we would die and those non-Pashtuns would die without their neighbours. The differences is just geographical based. We have one and main trade-partner (Pakistan) and they have several trade-partners. But ask yourself. How many times Pakistan stopped all our supplies for weeks? Don´t Pakistani border forces, custom-houses take bribes or force people to pay them or even leave them a share of their transporting goods? To be political correct we have actually not really any partner but economic enemies making us depending from them. We have no other solution at the moment to stop this. What would be your solution to this problem? Why do you compare me with Sarda Dawood Khan? I am not a nationalist nor do I make any claims on Pakistani territory...Afghanistan´s trade is tied to all its neighbours. incl Pakistan and via Pakistan with US and India. Via Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan with Russia, China, Turkey ...