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  • #31
    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
    anyone who is over the age of 40 or has had involvements in the political affairs of the country in the past should be banished from it in future. for a society as dysfunctional as the one we have, we need someone who can train dogs well let alone people. someone with the disciplinary tactics of kim jong un but a well educated mind that works in everyone's favor and is not retarded enough to ban stuff like education or women from public places.

    speaking of kim jong, i head he starved dogs 3 days before the execution of his traitor of an uncle so they could feast on him..?? is that true??
    Little by little those people will vanish. I mean many uzbeks support Dostum. Thats because they lack of other "leaders". Once Dostum is gone then they will support another guy more educated. Its all a matter of time.

    Anyway thats afghanistans main problem: we lack of leaders. Most of tajik, uzbek, hazara (not all of them) are "tutkhors". Pashtuns don't even have leaders (only a fool could consider losers such as Karzai or Ghani as leaders of pashtun nation). What gonna be the future of this nation?

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    • #32
      i refuse to accept advice on the subject from an individual who stereotypes people based on their like or dislike for mulberries. congratulations, you have manged to make an ass out of yourself. this early in the morning too..tsk tsk tsk.

      "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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      • #33
        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
        i refuse to accept advice on the subject from an individual who stereotypes people based on their like or dislike for mulberries. congratulations, you have manged to make an ass out of yourself. this early in the morning too..tsk tsk tsk.
        lol

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        • #34
          Madame I think you don't know the meaning of words such as "tutkhor" or "mulikhor". Seems you are not fluent in dari.

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          • #35
            Unity

            a UNITY b/w pashtuns-Tajiks-Uzbek and hazara against taliban will indirectly bring Peace into Afghanistan
            "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
              Unity

              a UNITY b/w pashtuns-Tajiks-Uzbek and hazara against taliban will indirectly bring Peace into Afghanistan
              Thank you for your advice but keep it for yourself. You will need advices about unity and ethnic brotherhood in pakistan in few years. Your country is also divided along ethnic lines.

              Please leave us alone. We afghans will find the way to solve our problems. Why some pakis are so obsessed with afghanistan?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                Thank you for your advice but keep it for yourself. You will need advices about unity and ethnic brotherhood in pakistan in few years. Your country is also divided along ethnic lines.

                Please leave us alone. We afghans will find the way to solve our problems. Why some pakis are so obsessed with afghanistan?
                who are you?arent you a tajik?how the hell you claim to be a afghan?are you insane by any chance?

                Yes our country is divided and so does most of the under developed countries in the world.We accept our mistake and once you accept your mistake and stop being in denial mode will help alot in solving the problem
                "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                  who are you?arent you a tajik?how the hell you claim to be a afghan?are you insane by any chance?

                  Yes our country is divided and so does most of the under developed countries in the world.We accept our mistake and once you accept your mistake and stop being in denial mode will help alot in solving the problem
                  I am a citizen of afghanistan. Tajik or pashtun if you are born within afghan borders your are an afghan. Wash your mouth before taking the great name of afghanistan.

                  Stop creating gaps you evil paki troublemaker.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                    I am a citizen of afghanistan. Tajik or pashtun if you are born within afghan borders your are an afghan. Wash your mouth before taking the great name of afghanistan.

                    Stop creating gaps you evil paki troublemaker.
                    hahaha
                    now a tajik is claiming to be a afghan

                    You better start calling your name as Sir Smelly since your a tajik

                    Stop abusing Afghan by calling them tajik you idiot smelly
                    "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                      hahaha
                      now a tajik is claiming to be a afghan

                      You better start calling your name as Sir Smelly since your a tajik

                      Stop abusing Afghan by calling them tajik you idiot smelly
                      Since I am not a curry-eater like you I can not be a "smelly" person. Seems you know nothing about afghanistans reality, paki. Most of tajiks call to themselves "afghan" and they hate to death Iran.

                      Some pashtuns on this forum can prove me right. Only paki pathans are obsessed with tajiks. Most of afghan pashtuns love their tajik brothers.

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                      • #41
                        establish a non political charitable network that provides social services to the poor, the orphans and the widows

                        educate and feed them for 10 years

                        have them infiltrate the govt, civil service, army etc

                        launch a coup (directly or indirectly)

                        establish a one party system

                        change the name of the country to Ariana

                        administratively divide the country into several emirates based around major cities and have each region ruled by an emir from the party.

                        divide powers between central govt and regional govts

                        enforce pashto on pashtuns and farsi on farsiwans

                        recognize the durand line

                        reform the army, drastically reducing its numbers, and changing it from a conventional standing army to a guerilla, mobile paramilitary organization

                        invest in tunnels, caves, anti aircraft weaponry, and essentially turn the country into an armed fortress. keep a token number of tanks, and planes

                        introduce mandatory basic education for all afghans until the age of 10

                        limit the quantity of higher education and increase its quality. it doesnt benefit the country to have hundreds of thousands of mildly educated, unemployed citizens

                        massive infrastructure development and training vis a vis the natural resources we have

                        declare the nation completely neutral, withdraw from every intl organization except the un

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by KGODB View Post
                          establish a non political charitable network that provides social services to the poor, the orphans and the widows

                          educate and feed them for 10 years

                          have them infiltrate the govt, civil service, army etc

                          launch a coup (directly or indirectly)

                          establish a one party system

                          change the name of the country to Ariana

                          administratively divide the country into several emirates based around major cities and have each region ruled by an emir from the party.

                          divide powers between central govt and regional govts

                          enforce pashto on pashtuns and farsi on farsiwans

                          recognize the durand line

                          reform the army, drastically reducing its numbers, and changing it from a conventional standing army to a guerilla, mobile paramilitary organization

                          invest in tunnels, caves, anti aircraft weaponry, and essentially turn the country into an armed fortress. keep a token number of tanks, and planes

                          introduce mandatory basic education for all afghans until the age of 10

                          limit the quantity of higher education and increase its quality. it doesnt benefit the country to have hundreds of thousands of mildly educated, unemployed citizens

                          massive infrastructure development and training vis a vis the natural resources we have

                          declare the nation completely neutral, withdraw from every intl organization except the un
                          I do agree with all your points except one: changing the name to "ariana". That name would exclude our turkic minorities. I don't wanna change the name of afghanistan after all that will just create more problems. Anyway Khorasan is much better name after all khorasan has been ruled by every ethnic group of afghanistan: uzbeks (timurids), tajiks (samanians, saffarids,etc) pashtuns (hotaks and durranis), hazers (moguls), etc.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                            I do agree with all your points except one: changing the name to "ariana". That name would exclude our turkic minorities. I don't wanna change the name of afghanistan after all that will just create more problems. Anyway Khorasan is much better name after all khorasan has been ruled by every ethnic group of afghanistan: uzbeks (timurids), tajiks (samanians, saffarids,etc) pashtuns (hotaks and durranis), hazers (moguls), etc.
                            The problem with Khorassan is as follows:

                            1) It is essentially a geographical term, referring to the eastern lands.

                            2) It has been hijacked by anti Pashtuns in modern discourse

                            3) There is already several Iranian provinces that have it in their name

                            Ariana is a term that is more embedded in the conscious of Afghans, a more readily accepted term

                            It also positions Afghanistan rightly, as the successor to the Eastern Persian Empire, and rejects the modern Iranians hijacking of the "Aryan" legend. It essentially restores our historical dignity and might

                            It also allows for not only all Afghan ethnicities but also surrounding co ethnics to have loyalty to it

                            As for the turkics, I dont particularly care for their opinion on this matter. The turks are not indigenous to this region. This land was Ariana for centuries before they showed up

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                            • #44
                              Changing the name of the country as a solution is not only stupid, it is also an insult for the entire nation. Because millions didnt die because pf the name.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by KGODB View Post
                                The problem with Khorassan is as follows:

                                1) It is essentially a geographical term, referring to the eastern lands.

                                2) It has been hijacked by anti Pashtuns in modern discourse

                                3) There is already several Iranian provinces that have it in their name

                                Ariana is a term that is more embedded in the conscious of Afghans, a more readily accepted term

                                It also positions Afghanistan rightly, as the successor to the Eastern Persian Empire, and rejects the modern Iranians hijacking of the "Aryan" legend. It essentially restores our historical dignity and might

                                It also allows for not only all Afghan ethnicities but also surrounding co ethnics to have loyalty to it

                                As for the turkics, I dont particularly care for their opinion on this matter. The turks are not indigenous to this region. This land was Ariana for centuries before they showed up
                                I do agree with everything again except what you claim on turkic people.

                                Bro we must create a country for every single afghan regardless his ethnicity. Changing the name from afghanistan into ariana will change nothing.

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