how to bring peace to afghanistan.

[vinyard80]

I think this is the best way to bring peace and stability to afghanistan and pakistan. Afghanistan is sandwiched between Iran and Pakistan while Pakistan is sandwiched between Afghanistan and india. Afghanistan wants to reach the sea while Pakistan wants to reach central asia. So we both share same problem.

1. Afghanistan should recognize durrand line as an official border.
2. In exchange Pakistan must pave a tax-free road only for afghans to gwadar port.
3. Afghanistan must also pave a tax-free road for Pakistan so they can reach central asia.
4. Afghanistan as a landlocked and multiethnic country (just like Switzerland) should become a federal, neutral and gun-free country where all his ethnicities and religious minorities will be respected.
5. Pakistan must stop interfering into afghan internal issues.

What do you think?

[DSM0305]

I think you have smoked way to much marijuana. I read the tittle of the thread and expect something worth while reading, then I end up reading some Tajik nationalism. If you truly want a stabilized and peaceful Afghanistan, then it will be a good start to drop your fascist approaches.

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5. Pakistan must stop interfering into afghan internal issues.

so all your former points don´t make any sense

[vinyard80]

I think you have smoked way to much marijuana. I read the tittle of the thread and expect something worth while reading, then I end up reading some Tajik nationalism. If you truly want a stabilized and peaceful Afghanistan, then it will be a good start to drop your fascist approaches.

Wow, you again? Thought you were going to ignore me, LOL

Well if I was a tajik nationalist I would say something like this: "split up afghanistan, and send all pashtuns back to pakistan. Lets take back Samarkand, Bukhara and Khorasan province and emerge all of them into one country".

Now spot the difference.

[DSM0305]

Wow, you again? Thought you were going to ignore me, LOL

Well if I was a tajik nationalist I would say something like this: "split up afghanistan, and send all pashtuns back to pakistan. Lets take back Samarkand, Bukhara and Khorasan province and emerge all of them into one country".

Now spot the difference.

I was trying to ignore you, but you seems to get stupider for each day.

Do you think Tajik nationalist are retards? They are clever people who would propose something that benefit them. You in the other hand is one of the younger ones who cant hide his intention. Which makes you one of the few ''less intelligent'' ones who exposes themselves.

[vinyard80]

I was trying to ignore you, but you seems to get stupider for each day.

Do you think Tajik nationalist are retards? They are clever people who would propose something that benefit them. You in the other hand is one of the younger ones who cant hide his intention. Which makes you one of the few ''less intelligent'' ones who exposes themselves.

Thank you. I try my best in order to get stupider for each day LOL

Well my points benefit my country afghanistan.. benefits all of us tajiks included.

[DSM0305]

Thank you. I try my best in order to get stupider for each day LOL

Well my points benefit my country afghanistan.. benefits all of us tajiks included.

You do know that stupider is a word right? The synonym of stupider is dumber. You can look it up in a dictionary. The fact that you dismiss the word kinda proves your intelligence.

It doesn't. You dividing a nation into a federation, creating future distance between the ethnicities. Not only that, you denying the largest ethnicity the right to be together with their brethren in the other side.

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You do know that stupider is a word right? The synonym of stupider is dumber. You can look it up in a dictionary. The fact that you dismiss the word kinda proves your intelligence.

It doesn't. You dividing a nation into a federation, creating future distance between the ethnicities. Not only that, you denying the largest ethnicity the right to be together with their brethren in the other side.

The Nuristanis, Farsibans and Uzbeks and Hirati people could claim the same demanding to join ''their brethren''. Don´t you think you are a passive nationalist? Instead, let´s be against all -isms. They will destroy us. Pashtunism, Farsiwanism, Pashaiism, Uzbekism, Pakistanism, Pathanism, Panjabism and so on. Better we are human-beings, then Muslims and than non-ism people according to our tribe´s identity.

[vinyard80]

You do know that stupider is a word right? The synonym of stupider is dumber. You can look it up in a dictionary. The fact that you dismiss the word kinda proves your intelligence.

It doesn't. You dividing a nation into a federation, creating future distance between the ethnicities. Not only that, you denying the largest ethnicity the right to be together with their brethren in the other side.

1. Your "brethren in the other side" don't give a sh*t about you, sir.
2. If pashtuns have the right to be together with their brothers then the rest of ethnicities who share language, culture and ethnic origin with their neighbors can also have that right.
3. Seems you have no real contact with afghanistans ground reality. Afghanistan is already a divided country along ethnic lines. I just wanna give equal rights to every group. Centralism has failed.

[DSM0305]

1. Your "brethren in the other side" don't give a sh*t about you, sir.

Yeah, go on. Show your maturity and tajik nationalism.

2. If pashtuns have the right to be together with their brothers then the rest of ethnicities who share language, culture and ethnic origin with their neighbors can also have that right.

Like who? give an example. Do you think Tajiks from Afghanistan share the same culture as Tajiks from Tajikistan? If you think so, then you be more ignorant than I believed.

3. Seems you have no real contact with afghanistans ground reality. Afghanistan is already a divided country along ethnic lines. I just wanna give equal rights to every group. Centralism has failed.

Do you live in Afghanistan? Go to Kabul and you see unity. My classmates were Tajiks and none of them shared your division. That is also why I call you Tajik nationalist. The only one who are pro-division is Tajik elites. You seriously need to learn more about Afghanistan, perhaps you should go and live there for at least a year. I can guaranty you that all your points and ideologies will be debunked.

[DSM0305]

The Nuristanis, Farsibans and Uzbeks and Hirati people could claim the same demanding to join ''their brethren''. Don´t you think you are a passive nationalist? Instead, let´s be against all -isms. They will destroy us. Pashtunism, Farsiwanism, Pashaiism, Uzbekism, Pakistanism, Pathanism, Panjabism and so on. Better we are human-beings, then Muslims and than non-ism people according to our tribe´s identity.

Afghanistan is nation and their ''brethren'' are those who lives in Afghanistan. They would have joined other nations during the civil war, but they didn't share any commonality with others. That why during the entire civil war it was about getting power within Afghanistan.

I am against all nationalism within Afghanistan and that is why I am against vinyard tajik nationalism.

[vinyard80]

Yeah, go on. Show your maturity and tajik nationalism.



Like who? give an example. Do you think Tajiks from Afghanistan share the same culture as Tajiks from Tajikistan? If you think so, then you be more ignorant than I believed.



Do you live in Afghanistan? Go to Kabul and you see unity. My classmates were Tajiks and none of them shared your division. That is also why I call you Tajik nationalist. The only one who are pro-division is Tajik elites. You seriously need to learn more about Afghanistan, perhaps you should go and live there for at least a year. I can guaranty you that all your points and ideologies will be debunked.

Yes tajiks from north afghanistan and tajiks from tajikistan are same people. Tajikistani people are more liberals thats true due to communism, but that also happens with pashtun people. Pashtuns from pakistan are much more educated and liberal than afghan pashtuns. If you want I can share some peshawari videos and you will see real "ghairat" lol

You wanna portray all these ethnic-fights as a "fight of elites". You are wrong. Ethnic hatred exist in afghanistan. During civil war no army group supported partition. Even Massoud when he had the opportunity to split up afghanistan and create a "loy tajikistan" he rejected that idea. But now afghanistan is more divided than ever. Pashtuns and non pashtuns are fighting in every field. Three weeks ago a donkey said that non pashtuns were haramis non afghans on zhwanddon. Do you know what happened two days after that? 10000 tajiks and hazers gathered in kabul rejecting their afghaniyat. Ethnic fanatism is killing this country. You spend too much time barking on PF. When was last time you were in afghanistan?

Its a fact that most of pashtuns can not stand hazaras just like most of hazaras can not stand pashtuns. Just ask your nationalist friends on this forum if they would marry to a hazara shia girl lol

Anyway partition is just impossible. There are large pockets of pashtuns in north and west afghanistan just like many tajik pockets in south and east afghanistan. Afghanistan can not be divided.

[vinyard80]

I am against all nationalism within Afghanistan and that is why I am against vinyard tajik nationalism.

You are a liar and a cheater. You are nationalist just like many others on this forum. If you claim that pashtuns have every right to join their pakistani brothers but you deny that right to the rest of ethnicities then you are a munafiq.

Anyway you can beg after your pakistani brothers as much as you wish. Pathans are proud pakis and they don't give a care about our country. Loy Awghanistan is a dream that will never come true. Enjoy it. I only care about my own country: afghanistan.

[DSM0305]

Yes tajiks from north afghanistan and tajiks from tajikistan are same people. Tajikistani people are more liberals thats true due to communism, but that also happens with pashtun people. Pashtuns from pakistan are much more educated and liberal than afghan pashtuns. If you want I can share some peshawari videos and you will see real "ghairat" lol

You wanna portray all these ethnic-fights as a "fight of elites". You are wrong. Ethnic hatred exist in afghanistan. During civil war no army group supported partition. Even Massoud when he had the opportunity to split up afghanistan and create a "loy tajikistan" he rejected that idea. But now afghanistan is more divided than ever. Pashtuns and non pashtuns are fighting in every field. Three weeks ago a donkey said that non pashtuns were haramis non afghans on zhwanddon. Do you know what happened two days after that? 10000 tajiks and hazers gathered in kabul rejecting their afghaniyat. Ethnic fanatism is killing this country. You spend too much time barking on PF. When was last time you were in afghanistan?

Its a fact that most of pashtuns can not stand hazaras just like most of hazaras can not stand pashtuns. Just ask your nationalist friends on this forum if they would marry to a hazara shia girl lol

Anyway partition is just impossible. There are large pockets of pashtuns in north and west afghanistan just like many tajik pockets in south and east afghanistan. Afghanistan can not be divided.

Aww, it's so cute when you try to talk about things you don't understand.

You need to understand the situation as whole regarding what that guy said in TV. Apparently you don't have a brain advanced enough to comprehend situations or events as whole. So no wonder you look at things from narrow perspective.

I was in Afghanistan 2 weeks ago. How about you? You're not old enough to travel alone and thats why you haven't been to Afghanistan for years, or maybe you never even been there at all. So which one is it?

[vinyard80]

You need to understand the situation as whole regarding what that guy said in TV. Apparently you don't have a brain advanced enough to comprehend situations or events as whole.

"Yeah, go on. Show your maturity and pashtun nationalism." LOL

Do you know what? I find damn hilarious how you hide yourself behind bad words and bad manners. You can not refute my points. I love it. LOL