To Afghans

[Smarty]

out of 19-20million population in karachi,7million of them are Pashtuns.

Balochistan is already almost pashtun majority and so does the KPK and FATA.

Balochistan+KPK+FATA=More than 60-65% of Pakistan land will be under pashtuns.

Pashtuns are getting higher and higher say in Pakistani politics.

The high growth rate wont help pashtuns in pakistan, pashtun belt stretching from swat to quetta is not that fertile like punjab to support huge population. Moreover you are living in some kind of dream, pashtun is marginal community in pakistan. Not a single pashtun prime minister since 1947. They are 14% of army but they have hard times getting promotions due to dominance of punjabis. 75% of beurocracy is punjabi, the rest is mostly mohajirs. 70% of judiciary is punjabi. Your cricket team has 2 or 3 pashtun players, the rest of the guys are punjabi. Your national langauge, mainstream literature, media and culture is of mohajirs of U.P and delhi.

[vinyard80]

I don't feel that he is ''pro-farsiwans'' when he attacks Pakistanis, I couldn't care less about that because they do the same.

The reason I think he is a Tajik and ''pro-farsiwans'' comes from the fact on how he interpreted historical event regarding Afghanistan, and his political views on the current situation of Afghanistan.

Second of all where did I ever insult any tribe of Afghanistan. Be so kind and show where, or stop putting words in my mouth.

One more thing stop changing the subject. We were talking about vinyards credibility and not about Pakistan and whatsoever.

I love facts. You know it. When I blame pashtun nationalist establishments of our miseries its because it is true. Prior to the war, there was no tajik, hazara or uzbek nationalism. Only pashtun nationalism. Non pashtuns did not count. Pashtun nationalism and all this loy afghanistan crap scr*wed our relationship with pakistan. When pakistan closed his border to afghanistan (after bajaur intervention by afghan troops)we had to turn our face to URSS. You know very well what happened after that.

Rejecting pashtun nationalism does not make a non pashtun. Honestly speaking to you I don't give a care about ethnicity. I am an afghan and as I said many times my loyalty belongs to my country not to my religious sect or ethnic group.

We must reject every ethnicnationalism in afghanistan whether tajik pashtun or hazara. I am doing it right now but never seen you condemning pashtun nationalism. Never.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

[MENTION=17579]Loy Afghanistan[/MENTION]

Historic values of Afghanistan Economy from IMF aswell as WB

World Development Indicators - Google Public Data Explorer

International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook - Google Public Data Explorer

Export should be Products produced in industries not cattles and fruits/vegetables etc.Because World export share by industrial product is more than 80% of total world trade.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

The high growth rate wont help pashtuns in pakistan, pashtun belt stretching from swat to quetta is not that fertile like punjab to support huge population. Moreover you are living in some kind of dream, pashtun is marginal community in pakistan. Not a single pashtun prime minister since 1947. They are 14% of army but they have hard times getting promotions due to dominance of punjabis. 75% of beurocracy is punjabi, the rest is mostly mohajirs. 70% of judiciary is punjabi. Your cricket team has 2 or 3 pashtun players, the rest of the guys are punjabi. Your national langauge, mainstream literature, media and culture is of mohajirs of U.P and delhi.

Ofcourse we can not just grab the fertile land from Punjabis which they had been on for centuries.Well Until and unless Balochistan remain united andpashtun become majority in balochistan.than pashtun will have a greater say in whole of Balochistan as a province

Pashtuns represent 22% of Pakistan army not 14%.

In Pakistan President was supreme to everything though the trend was changed by PPP govt.when PM was given more rights.And We had pashtun origin president for 17 years out of total 67 years of Pakistan

Punjab dominance in army is getting decreased and decreased.Beside this in Pakistan we usually mistake saraiki people for punjabis aswell.

Punjabis are 49-53% of Pakistan population and they represent 50-55% of Pakistan army


Punjab?s dominance in army being reduced: ISPR - DAWN.COM

Punjab’s dominance in army being reduced: ISPR

ISLAMABAD, Sept 13: A planned effort is being made to revise the composition of the Pakistan Army by reducing the dominance of Punjab to a considerable level over a period of four years.

In 2001, the Punjabis constituted over 71 per cent of the army. The numerical strength was reduced in later years and has been brought down to just over 57 per cent this year. A further three per cent decrease in recruitment from that province is on the cards by 2011.

Punjabis: 53.19%
Pashtuns: 21%
Sindhis: 13.5%
Kashmiris: 9.11%
Balochis: 3.2% .

Pakistan Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

URDU is neither the language of punjabis or any other community in Pakistan.

Punjabi belong to Punjabis
Pashto to pashtuns
balochi to baloch
sindhi to sindhi people
Kashmiri to kashmiri people

Urdu is used as a communicating language.And it has nothing to do with Delhi or UP culture.since urdu is a language not a culture.

Though now people of Islamabad and some similar places has indigenous urdu speaking people

[Bost Bastan News]

Your lack of Afghan geography shows the true face of your Intel on Afghanistan. I bet you get all of those Intel from western side. Have you been ands seen how Afghanistan is? Only because the infrastructure is destroyed otherwise you can grow seeds in all Afghanistan like before.

If you knew something about Afghanistan economy pre war, it was we who were exporters of fruits, meat, horses, camels, nuts etc to our neighbouring countries. Of course if there is no stability and foreign influence there will be. To get rid of foreign influence we need unity. China is one country who do business without meddling in others "affairs".

With an income enough to food the people only of Nuristan ... in what kind of a world are you living? Afghanistan got always support from outside. Do you know why Helmand was called in the 50s and 60s ''Little America''? Not because Afghanistan had the economy to turn the current dust into green and beautiful oasis. It was because of US. US, Germany, Russia, India. Without these countries and their supportive funds Afghanistan can´t survive.

[Loy Afghanistan]

With an income enough to food the people only of Nuristan ... in what kind of a world are you living? Afghanistan got always support from outside. Do you know why Helmand was called in the 50s and 60s ''Little America''? Not because Afghanistan had the economy to turn the current dust into green and beautiful oasis. It was because of US. US, Germany, Russia, India. Without these countries and their supportive funds Afghanistan can´t survive.

Where did you learn that? Punjab school?

[Bost Bastan News]

Where did you learn that? Punjab school?

Just for your info! I am working for our Mayesty Mr. Hamed Karzai

[ComradePashtun]

Your this majesty crap sounds very idiotic now, long name. Wtf are you trying to prove?

[Pakwatan]

Ofcourse we can not just grab the fertile land from Punjabis which they had been on for centuries.Well Until and unless Balochistan remain united andpashtun become majority in balochistan.than pashtun will have a greater say in whole of Balochistan as a province

Pashtuns represent 22% of Pakistan army not 14%.

In Pakistan President was supreme to everything though the trend was changed by PPP govt.when PM was given more rights.And We had pashtun origin president for 17 years out of total 67 years of Pakistan

Punjab dominance in army is getting decreased and decreased.Beside this in Pakistan we usually mistake saraiki people for punjabis aswell.

Punjabis are 49-53% of Pakistan population and they represent 50-55% of Pakistan army


Punjab?s dominance in army being reduced: ISPR - DAWN.COM





Pakistan Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

URDU is neither the language of punjabis or any other community in Pakistan.

Punjabi belong to Punjabis
Pashto to pashtuns
balochi to baloch
sindhi to sindhi people
Kashmiri to kashmiri people

Urdu is used as a communicating language.And it has nothing to do with Delhi or UP culture.since urdu is a language not a culture.

Though now people of Islamabad and some similar places has indigenous urdu speaking people

There are many Pashtun villages in rural Punjab that have settled to farm.

pathan village,pathaan,pushto,afghan,peshawar,punjab,paki stan, - YouTube

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Where did you learn that? Punjab school?

your friend is right.

Afghan not only now but always had a aid per capita among the highest in the world

Net ODA received per capita (current US$) | Data | Table

This is again from World bank.Aid per capita means the total aid divided by People recieved by a country.

Each and every country in the world get aid.even china aswell.But per capita is something which give you the perfect value

Net ODA received per capita (current US$) | Data | Table

I have already provided you with valid links from IMF and WB.you can search yourself.As back as 1980 incase of IMF and even i can give you data from 60's

As Bost Bostan news said Afghanistan always had outsider support,Financial support.

If you notice in the Link,Afghanistan per capita per aid is more than 99% of the world countries

[Loy Afghanistan]

Ofcourse we can not just grab the fertile land from Punjabis which they had been on for centuries.Well Until and unless Balochistan remain united andpashtun become majority in balochistan.than pashtun will have a greater say in whole of Balochistan as a province

Pashtuns represent 22% of Pakistan army not 14%.

In Pakistan President was supreme to everything though the trend was changed by PPP govt.when PM was given more rights.And We had pashtun origin president for 17 years out of total 67 years of Pakistan

Punjab dominance in army is getting decreased and decreased.Beside this in Pakistan we usually mistake saraiki people for punjabis aswell.

Punjabis are 49-53% of Pakistan population and they represent 50-55% of Pakistan army


Punjab?s dominance in army being reduced: ISPR - DAWN.COM





Pakistan Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

URDU is neither the language of punjabis or any other community in Pakistan.

Punjabi belong to Punjabis
Pashto to pashtuns
balochi to baloch
sindhi to sindhi people
Kashmiri to kashmiri people

Urdu is used as a communicating language.And it has nothing to do with Delhi or UP culture.since urdu is a language not a culture.

Though now people of Islamabad and some similar places has indigenous urdu speaking people

Urdu is brought by Farsiwabans when they conquered your coward hindu people. To have control over your territory and to bring a communication between foreign hindu armies under their control.

What do you think Urdu-e-milli stands for?

[ډګروال]

There are many Pashtun villages in rural Punjab that have settled to farm.

pathan village,pathaan,pushto,afghan,peshawar,punjab,paki stan, - YouTube

why should it be any surprise that Pashtuns live in punjab or India?
you do know that these places were ruled by Afghanistan?

[ډګروال]

[Khostai]

There is always money for war, brother.

Karzai admits Balochistan unrest emanating from Afghanistan, claims Malik – The Express Tribune

50000 pakistanis have been killed since 2001. Really do you think afghanistan is not backing those talibans fighting against pakistan? Afghanistan is a country full of guns and weapons. Paki talibs can move into our country and use it as a sanctuary against pakistan, just like afghan pakis are doing. Unfortunatly main victims of this dirty game are our poor and innocent pashtun brothers in both sides of the border.

Pakistan and Afghanistan must finish this bloodbath. We both are losers in this game and our people are dying every day.

OMG you are so delusional, you only say this because the whole world know now that yout Porkistan is the mother of Taliban and all terrorists and somehow you want to give the blame on some one else, first it was India, but now you blame a poor country who had 35+ years of war. lol
You need a brain check.

And giving moral support is something different than sending money and wapons you baboon.

[abassinafghan]

[QUOTE]How are pashtuns in Pakistan third class citizen when whole of the Pakistani politics surround among us.

Drone strikes happens in a region which is declared semi-autonomous region.But even despite this InshAllah very soon the Drone strikes will be a past tense.

[QUOTE]

declared by whome ? i think my friend your memory is very short , this area was called 65 years NWFP , a name given by the british raj and british KAFIR tyranny ,and the pakistani state kept it like this.

and plz , dont come and they the people didnt mind , and it was just a name , if it was just a name why did pakistan didnt kept british india as a titulation .


there is nothing as semiautonomous in international law , wheter its a protectorate ,colony or occupied land or integral part of the country .

you can not choose as you wish just because you dont like what you see .

bragging about being nuclearpower but unable to protect the citizens of the very same soil which you consider YOURS , but not only this but actually ecouraging and supporting genocide on pashtuns .!!!!

its funny why you dont make jihad against islamabad and dont shoot lawyers ,civilservants ,teachers and others representing the state.

because pakistan as a state supports and helps kafirs to kill muslim pashtuns in pashtun heartland and pakistani soil .

so you just proved that pashtuns are just second calls citizens they are not protected by the state but actually killed and perscuted . in a so called "semi autonomous state "

why does the pakistani state dont protect this people ? why they are semi autonomous when it comes to their security and rights, but pakistanis if its about their independence and benefits ?

i guess you are a secular muslim , thats why right ?



regarding the rest , show me how many so called pashtuns are lawyers , doctors and in the middleclass ?

and the one you mentioned were pashtuns maybe by name and origin , but they did the very same thing as the british , tyranny in the so calle nwfp .

where not the same laws applied to the people and where till today collective punishment is the norm where political agents rulled ,and the rule of law and courts where not existing .