To Afghans

[vinyard80]

By name calling and using vulgar language, also being irrational...yeah, what can I say. You already proven who the subhuman is, I don't even have to explain myself.

You really need to learn about Afghanistan, its past, its present and most importantly its politic.

Afghanistan was under Taliban control. Al-queda did 9/11 and their leader was believed to be in Afghanistan. Hence USA invaded and toppled Taliban. From that day Afghan war began.

Do I have to further explain it in the details or you do have some brain cells left to comprehend the rest?

Everyone have the right to have their own opinion, but next time watch your language and be rational. Bad language is contagious.

You are portraying taliban as some sort of "freedom fighters". Well, they are not. They are not our brothers. They are enemies. Enemies of afghanistan and specially enemies of pashtun people after all they are killing every day our people. Afghan did not begin in 2001. Afghan war began in 1973 when Daud Khan kicked out his cousin Zahir Khan.

Respect.

[DSM0305]

You are portraying taliban as some sort of "freedom fighters". Well, they are not. They are not our brothers. They are enemies. Enemies of afghanistan and specially enemies of pashtun people after all they are killing every day our people. Afghan did not begin in 2001. Afghan war began in 1973 when Daud Khan kicked out his cousin Zahir Khan.

Respect.

They may not be ''freedom fighters'', but they are certainly no different from any other groups in Afghanistan.

So you're saying that US invasion started in 1973 when Daud Khan did bloodless coup?... Hopefully I have to say no more for you to understand that is wrong.

[vinyard80]

They may not be ''freedom fighters'', but they are certainly no different from any other groups in Afghanistan.

So you're saying that US invasion started in 1973 when Daud Khan did bloodless coup?... Hopefully I have to say no more for you to understand that is wrong.

USA and Daud Khan? Are you mad, bro? lol

Well to be honest with you afghan war started in 1963 when Daud Khan sent thousand of afghan soldiers to Bajaur and pathan tribal warriors sent out guys back. Thats exactly when our relationship with Pakistan was screwed and since then everything has gone wrong.

Talibans are animals. Actually they are even worse than animals. They have killed thousand of pashtun nationalist despite I am against any nationalism. These people are a threat and I will not show mercy to those who support a terrorist group.

[Pakwatan]

If there is stability in Afghanistan, then there will be stability in Pakistan.

Realistically, If there was stability, we could be like Canada and US. Just drive on through the border. Pashtun to Pashtun interaction will increase. Afghan to Pakistani interaction will increase.

Pakistanis have always given the Afghans, Pakistan as their second home.

All we need is for the Afghans to stop fighting each other. Same goes for Pakistanis.

[vinyard80]

If there is stability in Afghanistan, then there will be stability in Pakistan.

Realistically, If there was stability, we could be like Canada and US. Just drive on through the border. Pashtun to Pashtun interaction will increase. Afghan to Pakistani interaction will increase.

Pakistanis have always given the Afghans, Pakistan as their second home.

All we need is for the Afghans to stop fighting each other. Same goes for Pakistanis.

Ameen.

[DSM0305]

USA and Daud Khan? Are you mad, bro? lol

Well to be honest with you afghan war started in 1963 when Daud Khan sent thousand of afghan soldiers to Bajaur and pathan tribal warriors sent out guys back. Thats exactly when our relationship with Pakistan was screwed and since then everything has gone wrong.

Talibans are animals. Actually they are even worse than animals. They have killed thousand of pashtun nationalist despite I am against any nationalism. These people are a threat and I will not show mercy to those who support a terrorist group.

Wrora... Are you drunk by any chance? You completely mixing different stuff together as usual...
Brother this is my last post for you. I don't have time to educate you. Mixing historical events and being irrational isn't good combination. Talking to people like that is completely waste of time.

[vinyard80]

Wrora... Are you drunk by any chance? You completely mixing different stuff together as usual...
Brother this is my last post for you. I don't have time to educate you. Mixing historical events and being irrational isn't good combination. Talking to people like that is completely waste of time.

Thanks God. I was getting bored as hell, lol

Afghanistan has been at war with himself and with the world since its creation. Our country has nothing except war, war, war.

[gadoonwal]

DSM
the eastren pashtun calling westren pashtuns kabalyans while you the great angles never abuse us .
lets we agree with you for a movement then all afghan refugees must return back to afghanistan,right.
Strict visa condition must apply to all afghans crossing durandline.
Fencing of border to keep the afghans away cus we are different people ,living in different countries etc.
We do not welcome afghanis to come to our land cus we got nothing to do with you and you do the same.

If thats can fix the problem of awghanistan then go for it first step take all afghanis back as soon as possible.
No more brotherhood .


At the end the afghans side will loose not us.
We will live btter life if fence the border and kick the refugees out.


Your gerAT must be dead.Your pashtunwali must be lost but not ours.
Like aftab ahmad khan sherpao in his speech to pashto alami congress said,,,,,we will provide help and assistance to our afghan brothers as long as required.We will not let them down.This is what pashtunwali called.

These comments of benekay kabalyans will only harm poor afghans living in camps and they are all pakhtuns.
You people look down up on pashtu speaking of southren afghanistan .
Our gerat is not dead yet like yours.
pashtunistan is reality and it is only a matter of time.

[gadoonwal]

And Paki PAshtuns are just to weak, you have nothing to go on a killing spree.
Why would we need to join with ghulams, you only know how to spread extremism talibanism and ghulami to Punjabis.

YOU YOURSELF IS MORE GHULAM IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Pashtuns on the east living far better life then your side.
The afghan-pashtun are too poor and opressed by tajiks.
We will never join the farsibans ghulam scare to speak pashtu even in the presence of one tajik.
Do,nt worry about us.We never and never will run to you but have some gerat and do,nt come to us.Take all maajars back home fence the durand problem solved.
pashtunistan is reality.The freeedom of baluchistan mean the freedom of pashtunistan.

[abassinafghan]

Well to be honest with you afghan war started in 1963 when Daud Khan sent thousand of afghan soldiers to Bajaur and pathan tribal warriors sent out guys back. Thats exactly when our relationship with Pakistan was screwed and since then everything has gone wrong

son you dont understand the Problem at all and your Statement lacks of depth and thought . you should read alittle bit more and understand the Problem .

Pashtuns on the east living far better life then your side.
The afghan-pashtun are too poor and opressed by tajiks.
We will never join the farsibans ghulam scare to speak pashtu even in the presence of one tajik.
Do,nt worry about us.We never and never will run to you but have some gerat and do,nt come to us.Take all maajars back home fence the durand problem solved.
pashtunistan is reality.The freeedom of baluchistan mean the freedom of pashtunistan

which reality you speak of ? the one where the USA drone every day People? by no apparent reason ?killing thousands of innocent every year ?

the one where isi invites selfproclaimed salafis and wahabis to preach true and pure Islam ,terrorizing People in remote Areas , where the lowlifes and **** of europe/arabia can live out their sick dreams of power ? (most of those People are totoal losers and alot used to be convict criminals Islam is just a toy for them to be someone and polish their ego)

oh if Forget to mention the very same are used as a pretext by the pakistiani goverment as a reason to beg for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ?

and i even not mentioned ttp or haqqanis and the rest of the gang.


you mention how you were sold by afghan goverments , but i ask you ,
who is selling you today ?


in past times the brit bombed us , then the pakis did it themself and now the american .

if you dont like Afghans fine , but what are you doing to stop that your People are not only exploited ,treated like third class citizen and killed on their own soil of the very state they live in???

if you dont want to be independent on the behalf of your afghan blood , then be it on the behalf of yourself , that no one kills you , no one treats you like a colonial second class human (NWFP ,and political agencies were renamed just a year ago )

tell me one reason why you should stay with Pakistan or consider yourself a Pakistani , instead of form your own state , and call it what ever you want .

and plz dont come with , oh we are muslim muslim , Pakistan is a muslim state .

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

son you dont understand the Problem at all and your Statement lacks of depth and thought . you should read alittle bit more and understand the Problem .




which reality you speak of ? the one where the USA drone every day People? by no apparent reason ?killing thousands of innocent every year ?

the one where isi invites selfproclaimed salafis and wahabis to preach true and pure Islam ,terrorizing People in remote Areas , where the lowlifes and **** of europe/arabia can live out their sick dreams of power ? (most of those People are totoal losers and alot used to be convict criminals Islam is just a toy for them to be someone and polish their ego)

oh if Forget to mention the very same are used as a pretext by the pakistiani goverment as a reason to beg for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ?

and i even not mentioned ttp or haqqanis and the rest of the gang.


you mention how you were sold by afghan goverments , but i ask you ,
who is selling you today ?


in past times the brit bombed us , then the pakis did it themself and now the american .

if you dont like Afghans fine , but what are you doing to stop that your People are not only exploited ,treated like third class citizen and killed on their own soil of the very state they live in???

if you dont want to be independent on the behalf of your afghan blood , then be it on the behalf of yourself , that no one kills you , no one treats you like a colonial second class human (NWFP ,and political agencies were renamed just a year ago )

tell me one reason why you should stay with Pakistan or consider yourself a Pakistani , instead of form your own state , and call it what ever you want .

and plz dont come with , oh we are muslim muslim , Pakistan is a muslim state .

How are pashtuns in Pakistan third class citizen when whole of the Pakistani politics surround among us.

Drone strikes happens in a region which is declared semi-autonomous region.But even despite this InshAllah very soon the Drone strikes will be a past tense.

Anyway lets see

Ayub Khan was president of Pakistan for 11 years

Ghulam ishaq Khan was the president of Pakistan for 6 years(born and raised in bannu,and a banusi pashtun)

Total 17years.

Pakistan since 1947 is now 67years old

the %age of 17 years out of 67 is=25.4%

While the population of Pashtuns in Pakistan is 14-15%.

If we strickly follow the President to per capita ratio with respect to ethnicities than Pashtun occupy the Top post

Now lets talk about military

Pashtuns are just 14-15% of Pakistan population while in Pakistan army they represent 22% though some latest sources mention the numbers at 35%.But even if 22% than Pashtuns top the per capita in army aswell by ethnicity

Please stop this useless concerns about us.we have proved that we don't need you.and it is you who needs us.We are capable enough to get all our Problem settled.And even if we die please stop being concerned about us


NOTE:I expect a sensible reply from your brain not somewhere else

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

[MENTION=1068]gadoonwal[/MENTION]

Wrora we already are 35million and growing.If given choices its always better to merge with Balochistan and declare ourselves a independent country made up of baloch and pashtuns..than being with Pashtuns of Afghanistan who will always consider themselves superior and abuse us.

[Loy Afghanistan]

There is no reason to laugh. According to Islam black magic is real.

First of all I don't have a ''liberator''. If you want I can post pictures as well videos of your so called ''liberators'' cutting heads off and many other gruesome things.

I support anything that will improve the condition of everyday Afghan. You sold your country by chilling in the west, while your country men suffers. Wish for your people what you wish for yourself.

I hope this not apply on the young generations wrora. My and many parents flew because of their kids. I am super happy, that with all the brainwashing here, all the different cultures around, of 100 different ways to choice what ever I want, my heart and soul choice Pashtuns over all others, and with opportunity Pashtuns has abroad, they MUST help develop peace and stability to their motherland, no matter what. But in fact, many of the new generations don't give a damn about their mother country. But is not a huge loss. The beauty with nature, all weak characters disappears slowly, by it self.

[gadoonwal]

@gadoonwal

Wrora we already are 35million and growing.If given choices its always better to merge with Balochistan and declare ourselves a independent country made up of baloch and pashtuns..than being with Pashtuns of Afghanistan who will always consider themselves superior and abuse us.

They can never be superior cus they are half breed and speak dari.
We are far better then kabalyans.
i FULLY AGREE WITH YOU ON PASHTUN-BALUCH UNITY.
TOW YEARS AGO I POSTED A THREAD FOR THE FEDRATION OF PASHTUNKHWA WA BALUCHISTAN.
Kabalyans must be forced back accross the duraniline.
They brought crimes here nothing more.
They are the loyal servants of punjabis ,,isi,, .
pay them and ask them to bring brother,s head they will do.
They are not trusted and respected people.
I pray to allah these rats abuse us in real life wallah we will cut their dirty tongues.

[gadoonwal]

How are pashtuns in Pakistan third class citizen when whole of the Pakistani politics surround among us.

Drone strikes happens in a region which is declared semi-autonomous region.But even despite this InshAllah very soon the Drone strikes will be a past tense.

Anyway lets see

Ayub Khan was president of Pakistan for 11 years

Ghulam ishaq Khan was the president of Pakistan for 6 years(born and raised in bannu,and a banusi pashtun)

Total 17years.

Pakistan since 1947 is now 67years old

the %age of 17 years out of 67 is=25.4%

While the population of Pashtuns in Pakistan is 14-15%.

If we strickly follow the President to per capita ratio with respect to ethnicities than Pashtun occupy the Top post

Now lets talk about military

Pashtuns are just 14-15% of Pakistan population while in Pakistan army they represent 22% though some latest sources mention the numbers at 35%.But even if 22% than Pashtuns top the per capita in army aswell by ethnicity

Please stop this useless concerns about us.we have proved that we don't need you.and it is you who needs us.We are capable enough to get all our Problem settled.And even if we die please stop being concerned about us


NOTE:I expect a sensible reply from your brain not somewhere else

pashtun is the 2nd largest ethnic group in pakistan.
We are 25% of the total papulation.
We have millions of pashtun in karachis and they tookover businesses from mahajrs.
The karachi market now dominated by pashtuns.
In future we will move these pashtuns to gwadar-baluchistan and declare our own country with pashtun majority live side by side with baluchis in peace and in brotherhood.