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  • #31
    Yes its true, Afghans should concentrate on our own country Afghanistan. It was made clear to us in history and by the Paki PAshtuns that they love Pakistan more than anything, so that is oke with me. Besides there are more ethnicities who are seperated in different countries, Pashtuns are not the only ones and those people are doing just fine.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Khostai View Post
      Yes its true, Afghans should concentrate on our own country Afghanistan. It was made clear to us in history and by the Paki PAshtuns that they love Pakistan more than anything, so that is oke with me. Besides there are more ethnicities who are seperated in different countries, Pashtuns are not the only ones and those people are doing just fine.
      Pakistani Pashtuns support and love Afghanistan.But this realy doesnt mean we should go against Pakistan and on killing spree

      Don't you think it will be hell alot of blood shed seperating such an huge land mass from pakistan?

      Millions of people will die
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
        Pakistani Pashtuns support and love Afghanistan.But this realy doesnt mean we should go against Pakistan and on killing spree

        Don't you think it will be hell alot of blood shed seperating such an huge land mass from pakistan?

        Millions of people will die
        Yes and that is also a reason I don't want it, Afghanistan had enough of war and people dieng, we just want peace and stability. To be honest majority of PAshtuns in Afghanistan don't even know about Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan concepts. When I was there nobody spoke about it, and you barely hear it on tv, even on Zhwandun TV, what is actualy Pashtun centric, I don't hear about it.

        This whole Pashtunistan dream is long gone, we Afghans need to concentrate on our won land and fix that first.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
          Pakistani Pashtuns support and love Afghanistan.But this realy doesnt mean we should go against Pakistan and on killing spree

          Don't you think it will be hell alot of blood shed seperating such an huge land mass from pakistan?

          Millions of people will die
          And Paki PAshtuns are just to weak, you have nothing to go on a killing spree.
          Why would we need to join with ghulams, you only know how to spread extremism talibanism and ghulami to Punjabis.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
            And Paki PAshtuns are just to weak, you have nothing to go on a killing spree.
            Why would we need to join with ghulams, you only know how to spread extremism talibanism and ghulami to Punjabis.
            hahaha

            Whatever makes you happy
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Khostai View Post
              Yes and that is also a reason I don't want it, Afghanistan had enough of war and people dieng, we just want peace and stability. To be honest majority of PAshtuns in Afghanistan don't even know about Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan concepts. When I was there nobody spoke about it, and you barely hear it on tv, even on Zhwandun TV, what is actualy Pashtun centric, I don't hear about it.

              This whole Pashtunistan dream is long gone, we Afghans need to concentrate on our won land and fix that first.
              Pashtunistan might become a reality but atleast not in the next 3-4 decades.
              "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                The problem with Afghans is their delusions. First of all Taliban isn't the problem, the war in south is. Taliban happens to be a part of the war. You need to understand entire Afghanistan is conservative. Conservatism isn't only limited to Talibans, the north is as conservative as the south. The difference is that north isn't at war and therefor logically more peaceful. The little development that happens in north is solely due to peace.

                What we need to do is make peace in the country without cutting international assistance.
                Wrong. Talibans are subhuman ****. Braindead *******s unable to bring any progress to our people.

                That obvious bro. Peace means development. Please let me know why north is at peace and south is at war. I think its due to our tribal culture. Why Iran can not force tajik people to kill their own tajik brothers, but pakistan can do that with pashtuns?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                  Yes and that is also a reason I don't want it, Afghanistan had enough of war and people dieng, we just want peace and stability. To be honest majority of PAshtuns in Afghanistan don't even know about Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan concepts. When I was there nobody spoke about it, and you barely hear it on tv, even on Zhwandun TV, what is actualy Pashtun centric, I don't hear about it.

                  This whole Pashtunistan dream is long gone, we Afghans need to concentrate on our won land and fix that first.
                  Thats because afghan media is run by tajiks: tolotv (saad mohseni), K1 (hashemi), ariana (bayat),..etc

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                    Wrong. Talibans are subhuman ****. Braindead *******s unable to bring any progress to our people.

                    That obvious bro. Peace means development. Please let me know why north is at peace and south is at war. I think its due to our tribal culture. Why Iran can not force tajik people to kill their own tajik brothers, but pakistan can do that with pashtuns?
                    Becuase Iran can force Tajiks kill Uzabacks and vice versa. And not to forget Pashtuns don't take **** from no one, not even from there own. Tajik on the other hand will subdue to every one who shows more power than them, that is just there mentality.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                      Thats because afghan media is run by tajiks: tolotv (saad mohseni), K1 (hashemi), ariana (bayat),..etc
                      Lemar , Shamshad, Zhwandun, Pashtun TV, RTA are not run by Tajiks.

                      And Arian is not run by Tajiks but by Hazara shia.
                      Tolo TV is sponcored by Iran
                      K! I don't even know this chanel.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                        Wrong. Talibans are subhuman ****. Braindead *******s unable to bring any progress to our people.

                        That obvious bro. Peace means development. Please let me know why north is at peace and south is at war. I think its due to our tribal culture. Why Iran can not force tajik people to kill their own tajik brothers, but pakistan can do that with pashtuns?
                        tajiks are also subhumans there is no diffrent between a ttp and a tajik in afghanistan.
                        your own tajikistan has this terrorism problem longer than afghanistan, terrorism that is supported by iran in tajikistan.
                        iran not just using your tajiks to kill each other they also use you for secterian ethnic fights in countrys where you tajiks are just imigrants like in afghanistan.
                        and not just this they also seeing you tajiks as that what you are ,just dirt nothing more.
                        Ahmad Shah Massoud's Bacha Bazi Tajik Brother Captured - YouTube
                        Fashistic Iranian Police Torture Tajik Prisoniers From Afghanistan In Iran - YouTube
                        Confession of Tajik Terrorist, IED Planter An Iran Spy Against Afghan Civilians - YouTube
                        Iran Kicks Out Afghans; Faithfull Shia' Hazaras, Tajiks Come & Go On Spying Duties - YouTube
                        Tajik Persians In Afghanistan Screaming Dead To The Fashistic Iran NEWS - YouTube

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                          Lemar , Shamshad, Zhwandun, Pashtun TV, RTA are not run by Tajiks.

                          And Arian is not run by Tajiks but by Hazara shia.
                          Tolo TV is sponcored by Iran
                          K! I don't even know this chanel.
                          Lemar belongs to MOBY Group, just like TOLOTV. Iran does not support them. Actually Mohseni is considered some kind of "zionist" in Iran because he is too liberal. Just watch Farsi1 and you will see lol

                          K1, sorry bro my bad. I meant 1TV.

                          Ariana belongs to a shia qizilbash born in ghazni but originally from herat called ehsan bayat

                          Eng. Ehsan Bayat Ehsanulla Bayat Ihsanullah Bayatwas son of Khan Aqa was born 1963 in Ghazni, Afghanistan. His family belongs to the Shia Qizilbash community of Afghanistan but it is said he is an ethnic Tajik but Schia and grew up later in Kabul.
                          Database

                          TOLO, 1TV and ARIANA are by far most watched tv in afghanistan.
                          Altai conducted a telephone-survey of 3,084 people between the ages of 15 to 54 from almost every province of Afghanistan. Key findings from the survey include:

                          • TOLO TV leads national TV viewership with 59% of audience share
                          • Ariana TV follows in second place with 8%
                          • Lemar TV follows in now third place with 6% VS 4th place in 2012
                          • RTA and Channel One are 4th and 5th with 4% and 3% of audience share respectively
                          • 44% of Kabul’s residents are watching TV at 6PM
                          • Over 50% of the country’s population is watching TV between 8:00PM and 9.30PM

                          New audience share record of 65% for MOBYGROUP - Leading afghanistan's general entertainment TV channels

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                            Lemar belongs to MOBY Group, just like TOLOTV. Iran does not support them. Actually Mohseni is considered some kind of "zionist" in Iran because he is too liberal. Just watch Farsi1 and you will see lol

                            K1, sorry bro my bad. I meant 1TV.

                            Ariana belongs to a shia qizilbash born in ghazni but originally from herat called ehsan bayat

                            Eng. Ehsan Bayat Ehsanulla Bayat Ihsanullah Bayatwas son of Khan Aqa was born 1963 in Ghazni, Afghanistan. His family belongs to the Shia Qizilbash community of Afghanistan but it is said he is an ethnic Tajik but Schia and grew up later in Kabul.
                            Database

                            TOLO, 1TV and ARIANA are by far most watched tv in afghanistan.
                            Altai conducted a telephone-survey of 3,084 people between the ages of 15 to 54 from almost every province of Afghanistan. Key findings from the survey include:

                            • TOLO TV leads national TV viewership with 59% of audience share
                            • Ariana TV follows in second place with 8%
                            • Lemar TV follows in now third place with 6% VS 4th place in 2012
                            • RTA and Channel One are 4th and 5th with 4% and 3% of audience share respectively
                            • 44% of Kabul’s residents are watching TV at 6PM
                            • Over 50% of the country’s population is watching TV between 8:00PM and 9.30PM

                            New audience share record of 65% for MOBYGROUP - Leading afghanistan's general entertainment TV channels
                            That means one of his parent is Hazara probably Hazara father and Tajik mother.

                            TOLO is supported by Irani Shia like every farsi chanell in Afghanistan, even if you listen how they talk, you clearly hear Iranian farsi in it.
                            Tajiks can't do ****, they are only good at stealing money by corruption, thats whay they only prosper when Afghanistan is unstable and has a weak goverment.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by vinyard80 View Post
                              Wrong. Talibans are subhuman ****. Braindead *******s unable to bring any progress to our people.

                              That obvious bro. Peace means development. Please let me know why north is at peace and south is at war. I think its due to our tribal culture. Why Iran can not force tajik people to kill their own tajik brothers, but pakistan can do that with pashtuns?
                              By name calling and using vulgar language, also being irrational...yeah, what can I say. You already proven who the subhuman is, I don't even have to explain myself.

                              You really need to learn about Afghanistan, its past, its present and most importantly its politic.

                              Afghanistan was under Taliban control. Al-queda did 9/11 and their leader was believed to be in Afghanistan. Hence USA invaded and toppled Taliban. From that day Afghan war began.

                              Do I have to further explain it in the details or you do have some brain cells left to comprehend the rest?

                              Everyone have the right to have their own opinion, but next time watch your language and be rational. Bad language is contagious.
                              Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                              People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                              ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                              Ronald Reagan

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                              Pashto dictionary:
                              http://thepashto.com/index.php

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                                That means one of his parent is Hazara probably Hazara father and Tajik mother.

                                TOLO is supported by Irani Shia like every farsi chanell in Afghanistan, even if you listen how they talk, you clearly hear Iranian farsi in it.
                                Tajiks can't do ****, they are only good at stealing money by corruption, thats whay they only prosper when Afghanistan is unstable and has a weak goverment.
                                Hazara or not his channels is 100% pro-tajik nationalism (unfortunately). We should get rid of all tajik and pashtun nationalist channels. They only create gaps between afghans.

                                On TOLOTV, well seems you can not prove they are backed by Iranian evil regime. Actually despite being a tajik shia from Kandahar, Saad Mohseni is a declared Ahmad Shah Massoud supporter.Let me clear it for you:

                                "By then, many of the Afghans he had met in Tashkent were fighting the Taliban as part of the Northern Alliance. Mohseni developed a relationship with Ahmed Shah Massoud, its most influential leader. “I had enormous respect for the man,” Mohseni says. “I was one of the people he bounced ideas off.” He “reached out” on behalf of Massoud and the Alliance to Western governments, trying to help “convince the world that they were viable, that they were moderate and could get the job done.” (Suicide bombers sent by Osama bin Laden assassinated Massoud two days before 9/11.)"

                                "Moby has hired a hundred Afghans who speak Iranian-accented Farsi to dub the programs that it broadcasts to Iran. To try to avoid offending Iranian sensibilities, Farsi1 offers no news, and it screens its programs, erasing or blotting out kissing and sex. Still, last month the chief of Iran’s state-run television denounced Farsi1 programs on the ground that they promoted moral corruption, and Kayhan, a hard-line daily newspaper, accused it of “promoting dysfunctional families and adultery and portraying unmarried relationships and abortion as normal.”"

                                "Mohseni has been denounced as “un-Islamic” by fundamentalists for allowing women to appear alongside men on his radio and TV networks, for showing Indian soap operas featuring unveiled women, and for allowing women to compete with men on one of Tolo TV’s hit shows, “Afghan Star.” He’s been threatened with arrest, because his journalists aggressively report on government incompetence, vote fraud, and rampant corruption. He has been called a Zionist in Iran and an Iranian sympathizer in Afghanistan. He has been accused by authorities in Tehran of subverting moral values. He is implacably opposed to the Taliban and staunchly pro-American, provoking accusations that he’s an American agent. And his outspoken criticism of Pakistan for treating Afghanistan as “a satellite state” enrages Pakistani officials. But Engel says that Mohseni’s candor is “valuable in a place as full of rumors and half-truths as Kabul.” The American investment banker Joseph Ravitch, a friend of Mohseni, says that he is ultimately a “mix of capitalist and do-gooder.”"
                                Media News: The Rupert Murdoch of Afghanistan–Saad Mohseni And The Moby Group « Feral Jundi

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