Pakistan sucks

[EvilPakistani]

and sikhs are not ex hindus lol? your fabricated story of bin qasim that made you ex hindus or porkistanis to muslims is a joke sry.fact is that this area of your porkistan was afghan ruled long time before the brits came and longer than just 100 years.anyways if you are still angry that the afghans was not 5000 years ago muslims they are now muslims and brought islam to islamabad till dehli.by the way you ex hindus settled from india to pakistan when the brits created you this porkistan under the agend jinnah you are even not nativ inhabitants of this area.

And you weren't ex-Hindus?Pakistan was never ruled by Afghanistan, because afghanistan was never created until the 1800s, in fact all these so called "Afghan" rulers, were Turks & Persians, your handle is "Khilji" so you confirm that these so called "Afghans" were Turko-Persians NOT Afghan-Pashtuns.

You should not claim the achievements of Turko-Persians and the rich history of Khorasan.

It's a fact that Bin Qasim brought Islam to Sindh,which was the gateway to the subcontinent:
Muhammad bin Qasim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You can't change facts.

by the way you ex hindus settled from india to pakistan when the brits created you this porkistan under the agend jinnah you are even not nativ inhabitants of this area.

LMFAO, Muslims did migrate to Pakistan after partition and they are called "Muhajirs", they make up only 7% of Pakistan's population, you're so STUPID, 93% of Pakistanis are native inhabitants, only Karachi is majority Muhajir, but we still accept them Muslims and Pakistanis.

Pakistan has a population of 180 million of which only 12-13 million are Muhajirs.

You know NOTHING, your stupidity knows NO bounds.

Do you even do any research before post ****ty comments on this forum, you barely know anything about Pakistan, yet you like to open your dirty niswar-infested mouth with fabricated stories.

Anyways I'm done debating with you Turko-Mongoloid-ex-Hindu-Nowroz-celebrating-charlatan.

[EvilPakistani]

Lol what kinda losers are you at pashtun forums your heroes are arabs and paki forums your heroes are hinds and sikhs.
Our Hero Is Raja Dahir Not Muhammad Bin Qasim, Haji Adeel- ANP | Page 10

I never said Arabs were my heroes, i just correct khilji who claim "Afghans" brought Islam to Pakistan, and as far as some of the Pakison pk defence that claim Raja Dahir is their hero, they're entitled to their opinion, not all of us Pakistanis have the same views.

[Khilji]

And you weren't ex-Hindus?Pakistan was never ruled by Afghanistan, because afghanistan was never created until the 1800s, in fact all these so called "Afghan" rulers, were Turks & Persians, your handle is "Khilji" so you confirm that these so called "Afghans" were Turko-Persians NOT Afghan-Pashtuns.

You should not claim the achievements of Turko-Persians and the rich history of Khorasan.

It's a fact that Bin Qasim brought Islam to Sindh,which was the gateway to the subcontinent:
Muhammad bin Qasim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You can't change facts.




LMFAO, Muslims did migrate to Pakistan after partition and they are called "Muhajirs", they make up only 7% of Pakistan's population, you're so STUPID, 93% of Pakistanis are native inhabitants, only Karachi is majority Muhajir, but we still accept them Muslims and Pakistanis.

Pakistan has a population of 180 million of which only 12-13 million are Muhajirs.

You know NOTHING, your stupidity knows NO bounds.

Do you even do any research before post ****ty comments on this forum, you barely know anything about Pakistan, yet you like to open your dirty niswar-infested mouth with fabricated stories.

Anyways I'm done debating with you Turko-Mongoloid-ex-Hindu-Nowroz-celebrating-charlatan.

afghanistan ruled porkistan under mirwais hotak and ahmad shah durrani since the brits came was it under afghan rule why do you think is porkistan worried about the durranline?but the durrand agreement was never made with porkistan the creation of the british raj the ex comenwealth what you discust is just clown storys of porkistan sry the afghans are multi ethnic and khilji are pashtuns a large tribe with subtribes.

[Khilji]

I never said Arabs were my heroes, i just correct khilji who claim "Afghans" brought Islam to Pakistan, and as far as some of the Pakison pk defence that claim Raja Dahir is their hero, they're entitled to their opinion, not all of us Pakistanis have the same views.

also afghan kings like sher shah suri lodhi the complet khilji dynasti ruled porkistan they was all afghans called themselfs also afghan.

[Kushan Prince]

And you weren't ex-Hindus?Pakistan was never ruled by Afghanistan, because afghanistan was never created until the 1800s, in fact all these so called "Afghan" rulers, were Turks & Persians, your handle is "Khilji" so you confirm that these so called "Afghans" were Turko-Persians NOT Afghan-Pashtuns.

You should not claim the achievements of Turko-Persians and the rich history of Khorasan.

It's a fact that Bin Qasim brought Islam to Sindh,which was the gateway to the subcontinent:
Muhammad bin Qasim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You can't change facts.




LMFAO, Muslims did migrate to Pakistan after partition and they are called "Muhajirs", they make up only 7% of Pakistan's population, you're so STUPID, 93% of Pakistanis are native inhabitants, only Karachi is majority Muhajir, but we still accept them Muslims and Pakistanis.

Pakistan has a population of 180 million of which only 12-13 million are Muhajirs.

You know NOTHING, your stupidity knows NO bounds.

Do you even do any research before post ****ty comments on this forum, you barely know anything about Pakistan, yet you like to open your dirty niswar-infested mouth with fabricated stories.

Anyways I'm done debating with you Turko-Mongoloid-ex-Hindu-Nowroz-celebrating-charlatan.

because afghanistan was never created until the 1800s

This is something a parsiwan would say no lie. Afghanistan was created in 1747 by Ahmad Shah Durrani so who are you kidding? Your'e not a kashmiri, you are just some troll posing as multiple identities.

[vinyard80]

how can you back your claim that ghorids was tajiks you have no proof that they was tajiks,
the origin of ghorids is not clear but the afghans say they was pashtuns, anyways the province ghor where the ghorids had their power base is in afghanistan.
the word ghor is pashto.
your obsession for your tajik leaders is funny because not one tajik leader could safe tajiks and what tajikistan now is from colonialisation every tajik leader from the time of safavids till now are useless people like bacha sarqow, ahmad shah massoud worster than a dog and worster than any amir abdur rahman khan on this planet,because your tajiks became first time in history their tajikistan 1992 and even the name tajik is given to them by foreigners its not their origin self given name but of course now their identity.
The Ghurid afghan empire THE SURIS OF GHOR - YouTube

So, first you claim ghorids were not tajiks. Then you claim their origin is unclear and finally you claim they were pashtuns just because "ghor" sounds pashto. Bechem, you are unique lol

Since you can not back up your claims with facts, I must suppose that you don't have any evidence and you just live in a fantasy world. We want facts, not videos from YT. Can you provide it?

BTW ghor is also a persian word, ghorids spoke farsi, today most of ghorids are tajiks,... and most of scholars reject your claims.

^ Jump up to: a b M. Longworth Dames, G. Morgenstierne, and R. Ghirshman (1999). "AFGHĀNISTĀN". Encyclopaedia of Islam (CD-ROM Edition v. 1.0 ed.). Leiden, The Netherlands: Koninklijke Brill NV. ""... there is no evidence for assuming that the inhabitants of Ghūr were originally Pashto-speaking (cf. Dames, in E I1). If were are to believe the Paṭa Khazāna (see below, iii), the legendary Amīr Karōṝ, grandson of Shansab, (8th century) was a Pashto poet, but this for various reasons is very improbable ...""
Jump up ^ Encyclopaedia Iranica, "Ghurids", C.E. Bosworth, (LINK): ". . . The Ghurids came from the Šansabānī family. The name of the eponym Šansab/Šanasb probably derives from the Middle Persian name Wišnasp (Justi, Namenbuch, p. 282). . . . The chiefs of Ḡūr only achieve firm historical mention in the early 5th/11th century with the Ghaznavid raids into their land, when Ḡūr was still a pagan enclave. Nor do we know anything about the ethnic stock of the Ḡūrīs in general and the Šansabānīs in particular; we can only assume that they were eastern Iranian Tajiks. . . . The sultans were generous patrons of the Persian literary traditions of Khorasan, and latterly fulfilled a valuable role as transmitters of this heritage to the newly conquered lands of northern India, laying the foundations for the essentially Persian culture which was to prevail in Muslim India until the 19th century. . . ."
Jump up ^ Encyclopaedia of Islam, "Ghurids", C.E. Bosworth, Online Edition, 2006: "... The Shansabānīs were, like the rest of the Ghūrīs, of eastern Iranian Tājik stock ..."

[vinyard80]

I was in Ghor like 5 years ago. In Dahan felezak district I asked an old man if chords were tajiks or pashtuns. That man laughed at me and said "son, don't embarrass yourself with such questions. if they were pashtuns, they were not able to speak to their mother tongue. what kind of pashtun is that?"

As a persianspeaker pashtun I felt a bit embarrassed lol

[Khilji]

So, first you claim ghorids were not tajiks. Then you claim their origin is unclear and finally you claim they were pashtuns just because "ghor" sounds pashto. Bechem, you are unique lol

Since you can not back up your claims with facts, I must suppose that you don't have any evidence and you just live in a fantasy world. We want facts, not videos from YT. Can you provide it?

BTW ghor is also a persian word, ghorids spoke farsi, today most of ghorids are tajiks,... and most of scholars reject your claims.

^ Jump up to: a b M. Longworth Dames, G. Morgenstierne, and R. Ghirshman (1999). "AFGHĀNISTĀN". Encyclopaedia of Islam (CD-ROM Edition v. 1.0 ed.). Leiden, The Netherlands: Koninklijke Brill NV. ""... there is no evidence for assuming that the inhabitants of Ghūr were originally Pashto-speaking (cf. Dames, in E I1). If were are to believe the Paṭa Khazāna (see below, iii), the legendary Amīr Karōṝ, grandson of Shansab, (8th century) was a Pashto poet, but this for various reasons is very improbable ...""
Jump up ^ Encyclopaedia Iranica, "Ghurids", C.E. Bosworth, (LINK): ". . . The Ghurids came from the Šansabānī family. The name of the eponym Šansab/Šanasb probably derives from the Middle Persian name Wišnasp (Justi, Namenbuch, p. 282). . . . The chiefs of Ḡūr only achieve firm historical mention in the early 5th/11th century with the Ghaznavid raids into their land, when Ḡūr was still a pagan enclave. Nor do we know anything about the ethnic stock of the Ḡūrīs in general and the Šansabānīs in particular; we can only assume that they were eastern Iranian Tajiks. . . . The sultans were generous patrons of the Persian literary traditions of Khorasan, and latterly fulfilled a valuable role as transmitters of this heritage to the newly conquered lands of northern India, laying the foundations for the essentially Persian culture which was to prevail in Muslim India until the 19th century. . . ."
Jump up ^ Encyclopaedia of Islam, "Ghurids", C.E. Bosworth, Online Edition, 2006: "... The Shansabānīs were, like the rest of the Ghūrīs, of eastern Iranian Tājik stock ..."

well you claim they where tajiks and you still cant give a proof.just some wikipedia storys and storys of none afghans.i sendet you a video, the afghan view of the ghurids where a afghan historian talks about the ghurids in pashto language if you cant speak pashto try to learn it parsiwan imigrant.i said the ghurid origin is unclear because many pashtun tribes claiming them as their tribe for exampls the suris.
the ghor province is full with pashtuns till today the majority in this ghor are also pashtuns, many pashtun tribes living there specialy in charsada.
the original language of tajiks is not farsi but you even dont know that anyways your story of the old men was retardet like you and do you think i even believe your parsiwan fake storys?and your claim that ghurids was tajiks or that tajiks even had some good leaders in their history, if they had than defenetly not in afghanistan because in afghanistan are tajiks just bacha sarqow and ahmad shah massoud people nothing more.try to give some proof before you parsiwan imigrant talk.

[Khilji]

I was in Ghor like 5 years ago. In Dahan felezak district I asked an old man if chords were tajiks or pashtuns. That man laughed at me and said "son, don't embarrass yourself with such questions. if they were pashtuns, they were not able to speak to their mother tongue. what kind of pashtun is that?"

As a persianspeaker pashtun I felt a bit embarrassed lol

of course what ever you say but dont write me when you are under opium influence dude.

[Kushan Prince]

Holy Shizz we got tajik trolls here going and saying the Ghorids were pashtuns now? LOL typical behaviour of a ******* race with no history or culture. So whats next, the alexander the great was tajik, timurd was a tajik? LOL majority of them even claim the mahmud ghaznavi was a tajik when he was turk. what these sheeps don't understand is that the Ghorids were pashtuns who spoke persian in the courts like ALL Pashtun kings. Even the original homeland of Pashtuns is Ghor and from their they spread all over Afghanistan. Heck, they would even consider a persian speaking parrot as tajik too LOL. This is how desperate they are.

My friends, ignore these wastes, they are nothing but a waste of time here bothering Pashtuns. This forum has lately been overrun by pakis and now tajiks.

[EvilPakistani]

[MENTION=5560]Khilji[/MENTION]:
The Khiljis were persianized Turks, they were NOT Pashtun.

Lodhi and Sher Shah Suri only ruled the subcontinent for a few decades, they wasn't a success, the only accomplishment suri has is constructing the GT road.

The Durranis only ruled over much of Pakistan for hardly 50 years, then they lost to the British.

Even if a few Afghans did rule over Pakistan in the past for brief periods, that doesn't mean sh*t because it won't change the current state of your country, right NATO is occupying Afghanistan and before it was the soviets.

The American gov, even provides free healthcare to Afghan citizens, so you're basically an American territory now, and even if America leaves, the Indians will try to take control, and they've already built "schools" and "hospitals" for their Afghan "brothers"

[EvilPakistani]

This is something a parsiwan would say no lie. Afghanistan was created in 1747 by Ahmad Shah Durrani so who are you kidding? Your'e not a kashmiri, you are just some troll posing as multiple identities.

Even if Afghanistan was created in 1747, that means Afghanistan is only 266 years old, roughly the same age as the USA, not the 5000 years many Afghan nationalists like to claim.

LMAO, I've never posed as multiple identities, just read any of my previous posts, I've only mentioned I am ethnic Kashmiri, just pull out one post where i said something else.

[Khilji]

[MENTION=5560]Khilji[/MENTION]:
The Khiljis were persianized Turks, they were NOT Pashtun.

Lodhi and Sher Shah Suri only ruled the subcontinent for a few decades, they wasn't a success, the only accomplishment suri has is constructing the GT road.

The Durranis only ruled over much of Pakistan for hardly 50 years, then they lost to the British.

Even if a few Afghans did rule over Pakistan in the past for brief periods, that doesn't mean sh*t because it won't change the current state of your country, right NATO is occupying Afghanistan and before it was the soviets.

The American gov, even provides free healthcare to Afghan citizens, so you're basically an American territory now, and even if America leaves, the Indians will try to take control, and they've already built "schools" and "hospitals" for their Afghan "brothers"

dude you are porkistani that claims to be a kashmiri you neve saw a independend country or someone else just occupier. and dark porki the ghilzai are still pashtuns a maintribe of the pashtuns how can they be turks? but you prefer more the rule of turks in your porkistan than the afghan rule? lol thats why you worming around an pashtun forum you napaki than go to the turks tell them they ruled your ex hindu ass long time before the afghans lol

[Khilji]

Even if Afghanistan was created in 1747, that means Afghanistan is only 266 years old, roughly the same age as the USA, not the 5000 years many Afghan nationalists like to claim.

LMAO, I've never posed as multiple identities, just read any of my previous posts, I've only mentioned I am ethnic Kashmiri, just pull out one post where i said something else.

how old is porkistan? this failed state?kashmir even dont exist lol
actually you kashmiris that living now in this area are not nativ inhabitants of that area mr ex hindu settled by british to this lands as servant.
kashmiri porks like you deserve that porkistan and india wiping your occupied usless ass out for over 60 years.you from are slaverace no country no honor just occupiers.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Many sources claim that Ahamd shah abdali was born in Multan and after being born later his family moved to kandahar.