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  • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
    The way you talk I was honestly expecting some modern looking westernised kid from New York City, turns out your a grown ass man with the swag of a broomstick lol how long you been in America? Did you move from Pakistan recently I wonder
    The pic is almost 6 years old. And what do you mean by modern? Like putting gel in my hair, wearing blue eye contacts, wear a gold chain with tight leather like you Afghan freshies? No thanks.

    I been in the states since you were watching dragon ball z in Urdu.

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    • Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
      **** you ugly stinky Arabs...we don't want your stupid ugly asd language in countries...

      You****tards like to feel important due to Islam being an Arab religion and now you want to feel above rest of Muslims by making them speak your ugly ass languag "al yal khal khelal malkhelal"....well guess what that aarab religion of yours is not even an original....its continuation of judaism and christianity...bible and quran are almost exacly same with some differences ...... So you cannot even actually claim its an "Arab religuon"


      Get the **** off this site snd blow yourself up for your 72 virgins....

      We will continue being Muslim though because without Islamic way of life, we will be conquered and subdued by perverted western atheist culture where your sons will become phaggots and transexuals while your daughters *****s and pornstars (read that ugly disgusting poonjabi pornstar)

      Islam teaches is actually same teachings as Aryan religion: Zarathustrism
      The last part of this post is arguing with the first portion. Are you bi-polar?
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      *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

      Originally posted by Karachi
      like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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      • Originally posted by Rooh View Post
        The pic is almost 6 years old. And what do you mean by modern? Like putting gel in my hair, wearing blue eye contacts, wear a gold chain with tight leather like you Afghan freshies? No thanks.

        I been in the states since you were watching dragon ball z in Urdu.
        Lol afghans do dress abit gay with all that gay tight **** and OTT hairstyles. Iranians are the worst though. Nothing wrong with your hair style and clothes but it's just abit out dated, people that look like that don't usually speak fluent English in UK/Europe if you know what I mean - like a foreign international dude or something. Dragon ball Z ain't been around for that long to be frank so it does kinda make sense.
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          This video is very funny. Caution! Viewer discretion advised: Indian guy pretends to be white: Deepak Dhankar tricked desperate woman into bed - YouTube
          Nothing unexpected from Indians, they are the most ugly and vile of all races including their little paki siblings who have a community reputation for drugging and raping young girls in the UK and then passing them around among male relatives, the so called "grooming" gangs of paki child rapists. But these are not gangs, they are just regular paki families and their paki neighbours. Sometimes two generations of relatives.

          About 10 years ago or more i came across an American TV show where they would set up perverts and potential underage sex criminals to come over to a house where they thought a 14 year old American girl they were hitting on online lived. Indians featured disproportionally on the show. I can recall one espisode in fact where every sex offender on the show was South Asian.

          After being confronted in the house by a TV crew they are then humiliated and made to sit down and repent. When they leave the think they are being let off but get a mild beat down from the police who are waiting for them outside.

          They should stop shooting Blacks in the US and just shoot these revolting pakis instead.


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          • Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post


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            Last edited by Shapur; 08-21-2016, 07:27 PM. Reason: insulting forum member

            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
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            • Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
              Nothing unexpected from Indians, they are the most ugly and vile of all races including their little paki siblings who have a community reputation for drugging and raping young girls in the UK and then passing them around among male relatives, the so called "grooming" gangs of paki child rapists. But these are not gangs, they are just regular paki families and their paki neighbours. Sometimes two generations of relatives.

              About 10 years ago or more i came across an American TV show where they would set up perverts and potential underage sex criminals to come over to a house where they thought a 14 year old American girl they were hitting on online lived. Indians featured disproportionally on the show. I can recall one espisode in fact where every sex offender on the show was South Asian.

              After being confronted in the house by a TV crew they are then humiliated and made to sit down and repent. When they leave the think they are being let off but get a mild beat down from the police who are waiting for them outside.

              They should stop shooting Blacks in the US and just shoot these revolting pakis instead.


              How are these people Pakistani, you dumb dothead?

              You ugly swamp rat hindus/bengalis should have some respect before maligning other people. It's always you freshie faggots trying to rape a white girl in a dorm in the US. Pakistani population usually marries with in themselves. You ugly Bengali drivers are the biggest jokes in NYC. There was a time when cabbies used to drive past blacks, but now people avoid Bengali cabbies.

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              • Caliphate days are Long gone....Arabic is practically useless today as a lingua franca....religion is a weak reason for a lingua franca...specially when English has become international language.

                Arabs even have English signs on their Roads....lol

                The op must be the son of a Arab who is looking to restore old times glory....

                Just To Show you how useless Arabic language has become, and where Arabs stand today:

                Depending on the very Kufar...







                Wonder what the prophet would think of seeing this in Arab lands...

                If you want a language to become lingua franca, IT should have More incentives than simply inderstanding Quran...now if Quran was filled with technological and scentific breakthroughs, we might be considering IT, but as IT is right now, the whole World is dependant on the Anglophone World....
                Last edited by One1; 04-11-2017, 04:09 AM.

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                • Muslim world cannot be united under Arabic as lingua franca....

                  The reason is that Arabic and Persian are both a sort of potential lingua franca of its own vast regions....So you will have two lingua francas One for each region Arabic: Levant, Arab peninsula, North Africa....Persian: many Kurds, Iran (Multi ethnic), Afghanistan (Multi ethnic), Tajikistan, Uzbekistan can understand/comunicate with One another by using Persian ...so you see this is Lots of countries to Ask for making Arab the lingua franca who already have a sort of lingua franca whose presence in the region as a lingua franca is older than Arabic ever was outside of Arabia...No chance...

                  In the future as these countries develope, I could maybe imagine a sense of common pan identity (Aryan?) being born...the thing is Persian has been lingua franca since 3000 years ago in the Iranian plateau and bordering regions, this will make things already much easier for a globally powerful entity to be established, wether one giant landmass superpower like United States or EU type confederation...

                  I am not much into Pan Iranism, but something of that ilk might be possible One day if beneficial for all...it's an interesting thought at least..
                  Last edited by One1; 04-11-2017, 01:42 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by One1 View Post
                    In the future as these countries develope, I could maybe imagine a sense of common pan identity (Aryan?) being born...the thing is Persian has been lingua franca since 3000 years ago in the Iranian plateau and bordering regions
                    You're talking nonsense. Please learn some history.

                    First of all Persian language isnt 3000 years old. Secondly the Old Persian language of the Achaemenid empire wasnt the lingua franca of their empire and it wasnt even the main official language. The lingua franca was Aramaic. That is why all the Persian empire inscriptions from that era were recorded in Aramaic first, then Elamite, Old Persian and some in Babylonian/Akkadian.

                    After Alexander overthrew them, Aramaic continued to be the lingua franca for inter regional communication in the most of the Middle East, even though Greek was introduced and was used by the Parthians in writing as their official language in Iran.

                    Even in the Sassanian empire, Aramaic was still widely spoken. But they are the first ones to have tried to introduce Persian language into non-Persian speaking regions, like Parthia/Khorasan.

                    But Persian language didnt become a lingua franca until much later in history, even though Persians had ruled two different pre-Islamic empires that shaped the history of the Middle East, Central Asia and Mediterranean worlds.
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                    • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                      You're contradicting yourself. if he ONLY identifies himself as Muslim, then he won't identify or want to be an Arab.
                      See this is why I am against Arabic as lingua franca of Muslim world....IT has a history of Killing cultures and language....

                      If we want to create something like a Muslim world independancy of the West, ...there will be need to respect the diversity in the Muslim world....Muslim should never be the only identity. "European" is a very strong identity for Westerners (bar North American Europeans who simply mixed into a "White" identity, a "White" identity is less prevalent in Europe than North America) but this identity has its distinct cultures/ethnicities as well (English, German, Italian, Greek, French, Spanish, Portuguese)...mainly these 6-7 groups have carried Western civilization to the level they are in now (Last 200 years the United States as well)

                      The ancient Persians at their height (Cyrus the Great) never forced Farsi or Persian identity on anyone, but respected the diversity within the Empire, hence why most Middle East cultures still spoke their own languages until Arabic made them dissapear...According to Strabo this Empire stretched from India to Greece and Egypt...diversity within a common banner makes strenght The individual succes of each European colonial Power (as well as Germany who was not a colonial nation) proves this. if we all lose our distinct language and cultures, and ethnic identifies, and become a big load of Arab, this would make US weak, not stronger....

                      Overall this concept is good of creating a powerhouse rival to the Western civilization....not that realistic though...Pan Iranism and pan Arabism seem far More realistic...the Arabic nations are mostly Semite by race and language...the Iranics (Indo European/Indo Iranian) are their own Big distinct group in the Asian continent very distinct from Semites....
                      Last edited by One1; 04-11-2017, 07:12 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by One1 View Post
                        Muslim world cannot be united under Arabic as lingua franca....

                        The reason is that Arabic and Persian are both a sort of potential lingua franca of its own vast regions....So you will have two lingua francas One for each region Arabic: Levant, Arab peninsula, North Africa....Persian: many Kurds, Iran (Multi ethnic), Afghanistan (Multi ethnic), Tajikistan, Uzbekistan can understand/comunicate with One another by using Persian ...so you see this is Lots of countries to Ask for making Arab the lingua franca who already have a sort of lingua franca whose presence in the region as a lingua franca is older than Arabic ever was outside of Arabia...No chance...

                        In the future as these countries develope, I could maybe imagine a sense of common pan identity (Aryan?) being born...the thing is Persian has been lingua franca since 3000 years ago in the Iranian plateau and bordering regions, this will make things already much easier for a globally powerful entity to be established, wether one giant landmass superpower like United States or EU type confederation...

                        I am not much into Pan Iranism, but something of that ilk might be possible One day if beneficial for all...it's an interesting thought at least..

                        Well like FoB pointed out, you're not giving an accurate representation of history. Persian too has a history of uprooting native languages suc Soghdian, Parthian, Khwarzemi; even languages like Pashto, Baluch, Bakhtiyari, Tati, and Kurdish have been under threat by Persians; this isn't the fault of Farsi the language, but policy makers. Many Peoples whom are often referred to as "Farsiwan" or Tajik spoke other languages prior to speaking Farsi. Before Arabic most of the Middle East spoke Aramaic, which itself replaced Chaldean, Assyrian and so on. The Historical Persian Alphabet borrows from Assyrian and Aramaic.

                        You're confusing the use of a Lingua Franca and uprooting languages. I actually have no problems if Persian is a Lingua Franca. The only reason I opt for Arabic is because it's more universal to all Muslims because of the Qur'an. It would hence balance all spheres of enterprise from international to religious. It also has historical uses as a scientific and technical language.

                        If you claim "Arabic" was used to destroy other languages and cultures, a point that isn't completely accurate in itself, then this isn't the fault of the language, it's the fault of whoever decided to implement the language. This however isn't true. Berber is still spoken in North Africa, Syraic still spoken in Iraq and Syria. Somali still spoken in Somalia. In places where Arabic did replace the local languages, this actually happened over HUNDREDS of years. The only period where Rulers enforced a policy of mandating Arabic use was during the Ummayads, which was a short period. So none of these reasons really hold as far as history is concerned. A Lingua Franca doesn't replace local languages. It just allows mutual communication between people of different languages.

                        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                        don’t try to be smart.

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                        • Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                          Azmal,

                          A Berber scholar said it best himself, "Islam does not Arabize people." Its called being an inferior nation and abandoning your original language for a new one. Similar to what happened to Tajiks when they ditched Sodighan and other local languages for Persian. Such people had a weak culture to begin with and is clearly not religion's fault.
                          So who was superior Egyptians or beduins from Arabia?

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                          • Absolutely agree it should be one national language of all Muslim countries/.
                            Bacha Khani pakr da

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                            • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                              Well like FoB pointed out, you're not giving an accurate representation of history. Persian too has a history of uprooting native languages suc Soghdian, Parthian, Khwarzemi; even languages like Pashto, Baluch, Bakhtiyari, Tati, and Kurdish have been under threat by Persians; this isn't the fault of Farsi the language, but policy makers. Many Peoples whom are often referred to as "Farsiwan" or Tajik spoke other languages prior to speaking Farsi. Before Arabic most of the Middle East spoke Aramaic, which itself replaced Chaldean, Assyrian and so on. The Historical Persian Alphabet borrows from Assyrian and Aramaic.

                              You're confusing the use of a Lingua Franca and uprooting languages. I actually have no problems if Persian is a Lingua Franca. The only reason I opt for Arabic is because it's more universal to all Muslims because of the Qur'an. It would hence balance all spheres of enterprise from international to religious. It also has historical uses as a scientific and technical language.

                              If you claim "Arabic" was used to destroy other languages and cultures, a point that isn't completely accurate in itself, then this isn't the fault of the language, it's the fault of whoever decided to implement the language. This however isn't true. Berber is still spoken in North Africa, Syraic still spoken in Iraq and Syria. Somali still spoken in Somalia. In places where Arabic did replace the local languages, this actually happened over HUNDREDS of years. The only period where Rulers enforced a policy of mandating Arabic use was during the Ummayads, which was a short period. So none of these reasons really hold as far as history is concerned. A Lingua Franca doesn't replace local languages. It just allows mutual communication between people of different languages.
                              IT will kill all Local language. IT has already proven IT has..Islam takes up much of someones time....if Arabic becomes lingua franca, IT will render Local language useless....

                              No thanx, I Dont wanna become an Arab...I am content with what I am.....
                              Last edited by KingdomofHeaven; 04-11-2017, 03:55 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by KingdomofHeaven View Post
                                Well in theory yes, but IT will kill all Local language...Islam takes up much of someones time....if Arabic becomes lingua franca, IT will render Local language useless....

                                No thanx, I Dont wanna become an Arab...
                                If that was the case, it would have wiped out the languages of all the populations that became Muslim.

                                So your point doesn't seem consistent with evidence.

                                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                                don’t try to be smart.

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