Read this malicious Pakistan's Dawn editorial!

[khyaal]

ooo that is evilll

On a more realistic note, The Afghan president is on crack, im serious he literally snorts crack

But first ISI be demolished and Federating units be given rights as per 1940 Lahore resolution then we could expect something from Olas Mashar Karzai. A Punjab controlled foreign policy will always keep the whole region destabilised. Karzai can't do it all alone.

[Talal]

But first ISI be demolished and Federating units be given rights as per 1940 Lahore resolution then we could expect something from Olas Mashar Karzai. A Punjab controlled foreign policy will always keep the whole region destabilised. Karzai can't do it all alone.

ISI be demolished so that your buddies from Afghanistan can blow this country into pieces ? Who the hell gives this kind of advice. ISI's politcal wing was a problem which was disbanded in 2008. ISI is one of the best intelligence agencies in the world, if it weren't for ISI you'd be sitting in Pakhtunkwanovich. Pakistan doesnt have a Punjab controlled Foreign policy, dont make random comments, if these are your personal views still you need to back them up with some source. Unless your aim is to spread propaganda which from your posts your doing a quite good job of, provide neutral sources backing your statements and if you cant do so then i suggest you refrain from rash statements.

[Afghan_Soldier]

Khyala wrora,

This is a well thought out gambit by Karzai don't by into anything of the face-value. The US media used its last card in its war with Karzai. HE KNOWS THAT HE IS DOING. It was knee-jerking and this wasn't the sort of thing they were probably expecting.

He had to be assertive. As for the column, it is funny. Pakjabistan has been saying this for over 8 years. Afghans are not that naive anymore. If you realise in the past eight years, at the cornerstone of every success there has been a hysteria. Hopefully this won't be the last. Karzai is merely asserting itself and wants to be at the top of the game plan. Nothing to worry. No one reads Pakistani columns, and we Afghans certainly don't believe in it even if Pakistanian say che it is the word of god.

Predsident, defence ministerm, interior minister, education minister, minister of economy, minister of finince, communications, agriculture.. and god know the many more are all Pashutns. Only army is abit imbalanced, and that is work is much in progress. Let them bark.

[khyaal]

ISI be demolished so that your buddies from Afghanistan can blow this country into pieces ? Who the hell gives this kind of advice. ISI's politcal wing was a problem which was disbanded in 2008. ISI is one of the best intelligence agencies in the world, if it weren't for ISI you'd be sitting in Pakhtunkwanovich. Pakistan doesnt have a Punjab controlled Foreign policy, dont make random comments, if these are your personal views still you need to back them up with some source. Unless your aim is to spread propaganda which from your posts your doing a quite good job of, provide neutral sources backing your statements and if you cant do so then i suggest you refrain from rash statements.

But ISI has committed more crimes than good not only to neighbouring countries but to its own country as well. True federation will be a real guarantee to the borders of this country and fascist approaches can no longer protect Pakistan

[Talal]

But ISI has committed more crimes than good not only to neighbouring countries but to its own country as well. True federation will be a real guarantee to the borders of this country and fascist approaches can no longer protect Pakistan

ISI has done what needed to be done for its country, and is one of the most powerful agencies in the world. But what has the federation problem got to do with ISI ? ISI will still exist and will continue working on its mandate irrespective of the autonomy status of Provinces. Its a federal agency

But yes Provinces should be given autonomy and yes the model should be what Quaid proposed it to be i.e Provinces that can work and strive for a greater pakistan independently. but that will happen when Pakistan has rooted our all the elements within these provinces that threaten the sovereignty of this nation

[khyaal]

Khyala wrora,

This is a well thought out gambit by Karzai don't by into anything of the face-value. The US media used its last card in its war with Karzai. HE KNOWS THAT HE IS DOING. It was knee-jerking and this wasn't the sort of thing they were probably expecting.

He had to be assertive. As for the column, it is funny. Pakjabistan has been saying this for over 8 years. Afghans are not that naive anymore. If you realise in the past eight years, at the cornerstone of every success there has been a hysteria. Hopefully this won't be the last. Karzai is merely asserting itself and wants to be at the top of the game plan. Nothing to worry. No one reads Pakistani columns, and we Afghans certainly don't believe in it even if Pakistanian say che it is the word of god.

Predsident, defence ministerm, interior minister, education minister, minister of economy, minister of finince, communications, agriculture.. and god know the many more are all Pashutns. Only army is abit imbalanced, and that is work is much in progress. Let them bark.

We know all this very well. Fortunately we have the edge that being in Pakshtunkhwa we fully understand Pakistani tactics.

[Talal]

We know all this very well. Fortunately we have the edge that being in Pakshtunkhwa we fully understand Pakistani tactics.

He is the Afghan president why did you blame Pakistan for his incompetence ? What proof do you have for backing this ridiculous statement ?

[khyaal]

ISI has done what needed to be done for its country, and is one of the most powerful agencies in the world. But what has the federation problem got to do with ISI ? ISI will still exist and will continue working on its mandate irrespective of the autonomy status of Provinces. Its a federal agency

But yes Provinces should be given autonomy and yes the model should be what Quaid proposed it to be i.e Provinces that can work and strive for a greater pakistan independently. but that will happen when Pakistan has rooted our all the elements within these provinces that threaten the sovereignty of this nation

But why not like RAW make it accountable to the interior ministry? We know the whole vicious drama in Pakhtunkhwa, FATA and Afghanistan was played by this notorious agency. It has lost almost all of its utility.

You being a patriotic Pakistani/Punjabi might be justified about your views, but we Pashtuns look at things a bit differently. We are more concerned about our own rights and our own destiny inside Pakistan than worrying for Pakistan for its own sake.

[Talal]

But why not like RAW make it accountable to the interior ministry? We know the whole vicious drama in Pakhtunkhwa, FATA and Afghanistan was played by this notorious agency. It has lost almost all of its utility.

You being a patriotic Pakistani/Punjabi might be justified about your views, but we Pashtuns look at things a bit differently. We are more concerned about our own rights and our own destiny inside Pakistan than worrying for Pakistan for its own sake.

It is answerable to the Prime minister, but the truth is we cannot hand over the most important asset of Pakistan to the corrupt politicians of Pakistan. If you haven't noticed India is the world's so called largest democracy meaning the government stays its full term. With all the political mayhem that goes on in our country we would be severly compromising our security assets but throwing ISI to the dogs.. And if it weren't for ISI Afghanistan along with pakistan owuld have been in ruins today and you know it, if it weren't for ISI Afghanistan would have been torn into pieces by the russians and the ones who 'invited' them.

ISI had to act in the best defence of its nation, if the Afghans hadn't invited Russia to take over their country and given them a green signal to inavde Karachi Pakistan would have never had to resort to creating the taliban who might i add atleast maintained some sense of stability in that war-torn country. ISI has played a pivotal role in the Pakistani Offensive against the TTP in these areas, had it not been for ISI people from swat and FATA would still be getting whipped by the taliban.

I am a Pakistani so therefore its my duty to think of the rights of my fellow brothers, and pashtuns are my brothers. If any policy seeks to curb they're rights i would fight against it but i would also fight against anybody who seeks to compromise the national interests of my country be it any punjabi sindhi or pashtun. We're all for one and One for all

[khyaal]

It is answerable to the Prime minister, but the truth is we cannot hand over the most important asset of Pakistan to the corrupt politicians of Pakistan.

But corruption is inherent to Pakistan. And it was Sikander mirza who dethroned Khwaja Nazim uddin and later on General Ayub corrupted the whole political system.

If you haven't noticed India is the world's so called largest democracy meaning the government stays its full term. With all the political mayhem that goes on in our country we would be severly compromising our security assets but throwing ISI to the dogs..

But we saw in the case of Iran, Russia and Yougoslavia that intelligence agencies alone can't protect countries.

And if it weren't for ISI Afghanistan along with pakistan owuld have been in ruins today and you know it, if it weren't for ISI Afghanistan would have been torn into pieces by the russians and the ones who 'invited' them.

lol. It was the ISI which turned afghanistan into rubbles. You even tried to divide it along ethnic lines by projecting afghanistan into North and South and termed Milli Jabha which included many well know Pashtun leaders into Northern Alliance. Zia also had a dream of capturing the whole of Central asian countries to make a greater Punjabi empire.

ISI had to act in the best defence of its nation, if the Afghans hadn't invited Russia to take over their country and given them a green signal to inavde Karachi Pakistan would have never had to
resort to creating the taliban who might i add atleast maintained some sense of stability in that war-torn country.

But one year after the Saur revolution there was no Russian army inside afghanistan but Pakistan constantly sent its proxies to destabilise the then afghan government. Russian army came when General zia had convinece Jimmy Carter to give him money and they would fight that war for them. It was actually Pakistan which destabilised afghanistan just after the revolution.

ISI has played a pivotal role in the Pakistani Offensive against the TTP in these areas, had it not been for ISI people from swat and FATA would still be getting whipped by the taliban.

But again TTP was the brainchild of the ISI and it was theri responsibilty to protect the common man of Swat. You know how Swat was before its merger with Pakistan and how Pakistan turned into a hell after joining it.

I am a Pakistani so therefore its my duty to think of the rights of my fellow brothers, and pashtuns are my brothers. If any policy seeks to curb they're rights i would fight against it but i would also fight against anybody who seeks to compromise the national interests of my country be it any punjabi sindhi or pashtun. We're all for one and One for all

I understand that you are a Pakistani but we too reside inside Pakistan now after 14 august 1947. But then the question is who will define Pakistan's interests. Will this be the army and its intelligence agency or the people of this country?

[Son of Mountains]

^^ @pakistani
Nah wrora...he is actuall agent of RAW. His aim is to spread imaginative antipathy about pakistani pashtuns that they r very much unhappy in pakistan, that they dont wanna spend even a single more day in Azad Pashtunkhwa of Pakistan. Lolll. Let him do his false efforts yara.

Long Live Pakistan and Long Live Pakistani Pashtuns.

P.S...Your DOUBT is true!

[Son of Mountains]

^^ @pakistani
Nah wrora...he is actually agent of RAW. His aim is to spread imaginative antipathy about pakistani pashtuns that they r very much unhappy in pakistan, that they dont wanna spend even a single more day in Azad Pashtunkhwa of Pakistan. Lolll. Let him do his false efforts yara.

Long Live Pakistan and Long Live Pakistani Pashtuns.

P.S...Your DOUBT is true!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

^^ @pakistani
Nah wrora...he is actually agent of RAW. His aim is to spread imaginative antipathy about pakistani pashtuns that they r very much unhappy in pakistan, that they dont wanna spend even a single more day in Azad Pashtunkhwa of Pakistan. Lolll. Let him do his false efforts yara.

Long Live Pakistan and Long Live Pakistani Pashtuns.

P.S...Your DOUBT is true!

Son of mountains please be a little sensible about this. First of all, not every tom **** and harry is a RAW agent. I hate to inform you but just as there are pashtuns who like pakistan, there are many that dislike it. In fact, if you think the hatred that india has for pakistan is something, wait till you see some pashtunkhwa pashtuns. You are just in denial about this aspect of pashtun populace. It is there. Second of all, I know khyaal from other forums like khyberwatch and he posts there constantly. So you all should remove your doubts and just try to give some counter proofs.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

I dont understand what the big fuss is all about here!

Mr Popalzai (Karzai) is basically a puppet corrupt figurehead!

Do you Pushtuns in Afghanistan actually think he represents our interests?

No! he By Allah's good name never has and never will !!

wake up simple Pushtuns of Afghanistan! Karzai is in it for himself !!

he is corrupt, inept, impotent and just a puppet.

It is because of him that the Pushtuns of Afghanistan are in peril.

Pushtuns are a majority there, yet do we see any of this representation in the Govt., on a level that it should be?

No!

The Americans are right about Karzai !! and they will soon replace him.

Lets hope they dont replace him with anyone who is anti Pushtun. Amen.

PS: what the editorial says is true, this however is not what Pakistanis think, the editorial merely reflects what the Speenian (Americans and EU) think of Karzai, so the OP's claim of maliciousness is unfounded, infact to say "this malicious Pakistani paper" show how much hate he has for Pakistan. This is really sad I think. I pity him.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I dont understand what the big fuss is all about here!

Mr Popalzai (Karzai) is basically a puppet corrupt figurehead!

Do you Pushtuns in Afghanistan actually think he represents our interests?

No! he By Allah's good name never has and never will !!

wake up simple Pushtuns of Afghanistan! Karzai is in it for himself !!

he is corrupt, inept, impotent and just a puppet.

It is because of him that the Pushtuns of Afghanistan are in peril.

Pushtuns are a majority there, yet do we see any of this representation in the Govt., on a level that it should be?

No!

The Americans are right about Karzai !! and they will soon replace him.

Lets hope they dont replace him with anyone who is anti Pushtun. Amen.

PS: what the editorial says is true, this however is not what Pakistanis think, the editorial merely reflects what the Speenian (Americans and EU) think of Karzai, so the OP's claim of maliciousness is unfounded, infact to say "this malicious Pakistani paper" show how much hate he has for Pakistan. This is really sad I think. I pity him.

Da pakistan milli urdu/lashkar walae da Angraezaanu chaapluss na dee? ISI ba taliban na ra kharssawaal da ddalaaro la paara? Walae da musharraf, zia ul haq, flaana gneeralaan da pakistan da amreeka chaplussaan na woo? Kha karzai sho da nan shah shuja, nu bal sok shta che raa makhae tha shee? Thaso ba da Pakhtano milli ghorzang la paaraa da jinnah poonja khabarae ao mulk ba praegdaaee? Wrora Afghanistan thar 30 kaalo jangaedalae mulk dae..ao che somra ham badhh NATO dae (ao za da agho tharffdaaree na kaoma) kho aghae na 100 zalaa badh pakistan ao Iran dae. Dagha dwaa ggawanddee da pakhtano la paraa daasae misaal dae la ka da laasthunrii maaraan. Daa yaw haqeeqath khabaraa daa...ka daltha sok khapakeegee nu bakhana, khu wuss ba rekhitya waeeuu.
Do you think taliban in the 90s were not puppets? What about the so called mujahideen? Or babrak karmal? Better yet do you think Muslim league was not working in coordination with Britain?

It is ironic that a guy who has Jinnah and Khushal Baba in the same dp (one said muslim league and indian nationalism, the other said drasth pakhtun da kandaharaa thar attaka). Khapaakaega ma wrora kho thaso display anzoor domra ajjb dae, nu bayaad da khwand na kaee che tha nuru tha waee raapatssae gaa ao pakhpala da tharikh da nazar da ghaflat khob kae odaa yaee. Manana