Read this malicious Pakistan's Dawn editorial!

[Son of Mountains]

I felt myself pashtoon nationalist in a sense to help my people, support my people in context of jobs' searching, helping them which is in my hands.
But the face of this type of nationalism which can make me SECULAR is disgusting for me. Thanks Allah that i am not such nationalist.

Ohhh...i brought Allah/or religion in "some" Pashtoon matters....its bad...!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

not religous

There are religious secular people jodigulla. Secularism means a seperation between the state and religious institution(s). So one does not infringe on the other.

[Dinosaur Khan]

There are religious secular people jodigulla. Secularism means a seperation between the state and religious institution(s). So one does not infringe on the other.

I know the proper defination of secular & secularism. By Secular pashtun nationalists i mean those who have neglected the role of islam in pashtunism.

[khyaal]

not religous

Not religious means not believing in religion?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I think Pashtun nationalism is the gift and the curse.

too much nationalism gets to your head and etc.

nationalism for the sake of nationalism is a terrible concept, and a disgusting one. However to protect your nation, identity, land, etc it is very noble. As of now, what some nationaliyaan (this isn't only anp) may sound harsh but it is neccessary as our people are suffering on both sides of the durand line.

[khyaal]

I know the proper defination of secular & secularism. By Secular pashtun nationalists i mean those who have neglected the role of islam in pashtunism.

Thsi is just a distraction from the main topic. You can start such things in a separate thread.

[Dinosaur Khan]

There are religious secular people jodigulla. Secularism means a seperation between the state and religious institution(s). So one does not infringe on the other.

Not religious means not believing in religion?

sorry for not explaining fully, by not religous i mean the one who do believe in religeon but who is not strictly religous especially in political affairs

[khyaal]

nationalism for the sake of nationalism is a terrible concept, and a disgusting one. However to protect your nation, identity, land, etc it is very noble. As of now, what some nationaliyaan (this isn't only anp) may sound harsh but it is neccessary as our people are suffering on both sides of the durand line.

Even loyalty to state ( and that for a state like Pakistan) for personal gains against ones nation's interests is also an extremely contemptible thing.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

^we are suffering because of our own faults.

we are divided. Pakistani Pashtuns merely care about us Afghans, you are probably livng in the west and painting a pretty image but when you visit Pashtunkhwa they do not consider themselves larawbar or afghan they are nationalistic pakistanis.

pashtuns of pakistan have no status in Pakistan as far as thei are culture is concerned.

I know we are divided...however not ever section of Pashtunkhwa thinks like that. Nationalist parties make a big chunk of the people too (not majority). BTW the operations have not put forward that type of nationalistic pakistani feelings. I have studied there and lived there Afghanlady, that is why I am aware of the education system. What are you going to expect from so many people there? The media is not in pashtun hands, the policy is not, in Pashtunkhwa we are taught about Indo-pak heroes, and not our own.

[Dinosaur Khan]

Even loyalty to state ( and that for a state like Pakistan) for personal gains against ones nation's interests for is also an extremely contemptible thing.

Forexample ANP & PKMAP.
.....

Is there any national movement in pakhtunkhwa going on in baloch pattren? to which i may or may attack my loyalty.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

^its pakistani pashtun fault to not create schools that teach us Pashto and our hisotircal figures.

Unfortunately a lot of times Pashto is made official, MMA other types turn against it. About education well until now, it was a federal responsibility. Just recently education ministry was moved to the provincial control. So now we can finally mention them. It is obvious why the establishment and mutaliye e pakistan would cut it out, now we will see if the Pashtuns can fix it up.

[Dinosaur Khan]

^its pakistani pashtun fault to not create schools that teach us Pashto and our hisotircal figures.

Exactly it is our weakness that we have not tried seriously to bring pashto in every schools in pakhtunkhwa.

[khyaal]

Forexample ANP & PKMAP.
.....

Is there any national movement in pakhtunkhwa going on in baloch pattren? to which i may or may attack my loyalty.

But looking at the situation in which British occupied this land and later on handed over it to Pakistan, and again our very miserable condition here doesn't compel us to feel that kind of loyalty for Pakistan as Punjabis do.

[khyaal]

For me this at least will be a very shameful thing. This will indicate my ignorance of my own Pashtun/afghan history.

[khyaal]

Even Pakistan isn't that much loyal to itself. lol

Just look at its constitutional history and its atrocities against the component nations!