Pakhtunkhwa province's Hazara region may secede

[Smarty]

Please Google Nadeem Farooq paracha,The PPP mouth piece.Also torakona himself has said wierd things on this forum

He's a wannabe Pashtun

I see. Dear bannu when a pashtun like you become servant/slave of punjab then "hamsayas" of Pashtuns like parcahas wont feel any hesitation , shame or fear in mocking or insulting you..........in rajputana rajputs used to punish their sons on their mistakes by beating them through sticks at the hands of chamars.......if a kamasal like toramana is insulting you, then consider it your punishment.

[Smarty]

thank thor khanzir, Nadeem Farooq Paracha has some guts and exposes ilk like you that never any person did as effectively as he does. I am proud of my cousin. He is better than a kami kameen Jatt.

Kamasla this is what your cousin writes about bacha khan
One of the most popular architects of Pakhtun nationalism, Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, banked on the myth of Pakhtuns being unbeatable warriors to construct the anti-colonial aspect of his Pakhtun nationalist organisation, the Khudai Khidmatgar.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1090492/the-enigmatic-pakhtun

The rest of the article is too shyty.....you must be the one who sent that email to your punjabi/bihari cousin....kamasla stay out from pashtun affairs, we dont need our degenerate slaves that we brought from india, to speak on our behalf.

[Bengal_Tiger]

ANP vows to resist division of KP for Hazara province


THE NEWSPAPER'S CORRESPONDENT

2014-03-27 07:23:48

TIMERGARA: Awami National Party’s spokesman Senator Zahid Khan has said that ANP would strongly resist the division of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and creation of Hazara province.

Addressing a ceremony after inaugurating supply of natural gas to Munjai and Baroon villages on Wednesday, he termed the passage of resolution by Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly concerning creation of Hazara province a conspiracy against Pakhtun nationality.

He said that the coalition partners in the province had been playing the role of ‘Mir Jaffar’ and ‘Mir Sadiq’ and wanted to divide Pakhtuns.

Lower Dir ANP president Zahir Shah, Ayub Khan, party workers and notables of the area attended the function.

The spokesman said that 450 gas connections would be given to people of Munjai and 750 to Baroon.

He said that ANP had raised the issue of $1.5 billion aid in Senate. He claimed that the world powers wanted to push Pakistan in war in Syria.

“The war between Saudi Arabia and Syria will badly affect Iran, and in turn Pakistan,” the senator said. He said that the government should prove its democratic credentials by taking the nation into confidence on the issue of $1.5 billion aid.

WOMEN’S PARTICIPATION IN POLLS:

The Lower Dir administration and representatives of civil society on Wednesday agreed to work collectively for ensuring participation of women in coming elections by creating awareness among people in this regard.

This was decided during a meeting of voter education committee, Lower Dir, held here with district election commissioner Mohammad Nasir in the chair.

Members of the committee, including Ibrash Pasha, Aurangzeb, Ihsanul Haq, Akbar Khan, Arshad Khan and additional assistant commissioner Shah Jamil, attended the meeting. The participants agreed that being citizens of Pakistan all women should be empowered to exercise their right to vote.

The district election commissioner asked representatives of the civil society and political activists to play active role in voter registration.

He said that the administration would take steps to ensure women’s participation in election.

He asked the participants to educate people of the area politically.

The meeting decided that collective efforts would be made for women’s participation in election process.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1095839/anp-vows-to-resist-division-of-kp-for-hazara-province

1. I am glad that the ANP has spoken out against this so-called "Hazara province".


2. The ANP has many Hindko members including senior leaders e.g. Hajji Adeel, Bilour, etc so if they accommodate the Hindkos of Peshawar I do not understand why the Hindkos (or Hindko-speaking "Pathans") of the so-called "Hazara division" are complaining about.

If a Hazara province were ever to be created it might lead to violence with tribes of Pakhtoons resisting forced incorporation of their areas in to a "Hazara" province.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Ahaha---If you eat rotten bread without salt (and rotten eggs as well) for thousand+ years, you still cannot trap me. You kiddo, your attitude is like someone teaching a duckling how to swim.

Besides, that question is poorly stated.

Although, I am not a student of mathematics, I can guess, if the inner product of the metric space is complete (according to Cauchy sequence convergence criterion), then the metric space is Hilbert space; otherwise not.

Remember, how you cried in pms to me that you are struggling with your courses and are about to be expelled from the program, but I wouldn't post those here to save you the embarrassment.

Incorrect, you failed.


Let me explain to you the answer, The answer is it is NOT a Hilbert Space and NEVER CAN be a Hilbert Space. The reason why is that The Operation is NOT CLOSED. All you have done is try to define Hilbert Space, and DID IT INCORRECTLY, You left important properties out. For example You did not correctly describe completeness of metric space. This means you do not understand the definition but JUST used Google Search to copy it without understanding its meaning. Cauchy sequences do not necessarily converge to a continuous function, so they do not have ALWAYS complete Metric Spaces, because they CAN have "Gaps". So COMPLETE Metric Space must INCLUDE the limit. Part of the definition says the Hilbert Space is a Banach Space which is complete when its Cauchy Sequence of its metric (defined by norm of inner products of element x in X) in Space X includes the boundary/limit of X, which is X, since it is a Metric Space. A Space which has those properties IS a Complete Metric Space.

You wrote "if the inner product of the Metric Space is complete"; this means something different. than the inner product of the norms that define the metric space. LOL

You said "Cauchy Sequence Criterion" , Cauchy Sequence Criterion are conditions which define what it means for a sequence to be Cauchy, it does not NECESSARILY have to be Complete. So this statement is BLATANTLY WRONG. Also Inner Product of Matrices is defined row by column product spaces So if you Multiplied an M X N Matrix by an M X N Matrix then the row space is lost in the operation, in other words, loses property of closure, and thus is NOT complete.

So In Summary
a.) You Do not Not understand the difference between Banach and Hilbert Spaces Or their definitions correctly
b) You did NOT answer the question actually asked of you.
c.) You INCORRECTLY stated the definition of Hilbert Space
d.) You quite possibly asked for help since the writing style of the sentence is NOT your usual writing sstyle

You have been exposed.

Now can you tell me kiddo, what is the fundamental difference between Affine and Euclidean vector spaces?

This is simply asking for definitions, which tells me you only have a superficial capacity to simply GOOGLE search terms but not actually understand their properties or the implications of their properties as I demonstrated by exposing your errors.

Anyways to answer your very superficial and trivial question. The difference is simply that in Affline Vector Space, the Zero Vector is not included thus conventional vector operations are limited to adding, subtracting vectors but points cannot be added or subtracted since they do not have a unique position. in Eucliedean Space it does have unique position. This changes how we define metric according to norms vs. distances.

I'd never have messaged you about anything intellectually related, You're substandard in even basic topics, you'd be incapable of being even functional in advanced ones as we can see by the e mistakes that you made here.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

By the way by all means SHOW PRINT SCREENS of the alleged Instant Messages Torkharmacha

Just like this one where you went Khamosh

[Kushan Prince]

I see. Dear bannu when a pashtun like you become servant/slave of punjab then "hamsayas" of Pashtuns like parcahas wont feel any hesitation , shame or fear in mocking or insulting you..........in rajputana rajputs used to punish their sons on their mistakes by beating them through sticks at the hands of chamars.......if a kamasal like toramana is insulting you, then consider it your punishment.

And look at him now, he's banned for spreading paki propaganda and lashing verbal abuses at Bengalis.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Torkharmacha is in hiding now.

[Tiger Khan]

Jhelum, Rawalpindi and, if I'm right, Attock are part of the Potohar region. The main language is Pothwari, but Pothwari and Hindko have actually quite a lot in common.

yes.. may be,.. that make them potohari not hindkowan.

[Toramana]

Kamasla this is what your cousin writes about bacha khan
One of the most popular architects of Pakhtun nationalism, Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, banked on the myth of Pakhtuns being unbeatable warriors to construct the anti-colonial aspect of his Pakhtun nationalist organisation, the Khudai Khidmatgar.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1090492/the-enigmatic-pakhtun

The rest of the article is too shyty.....you must be the one who sent that email to your punjabi/bihari cousin....kamasla stay out from pashtun affairs, we dont need our degenerate slaves that we brought from india, to speak on our behalf.

Hahaha zoor ka, my Ranganr friend you can go wash that Paki-gypsy mouth of yours before talking to a man of respect like me, I have already thrashed my cousin Nadeem Paracha for the dare-ness to talk about Bacha Khan.

[Toramana]

Incorrect, you failed.


Let me explain to you the answer, The answer is it is NOT a Hilbert Space and NEVER CAN be a Hilbert Space. The reason why is that The Operation is NOT CLOSED. All you have done is try to define Hilbert Space, and DID IT INCORRECTLY, You left important properties out. For example You did not correctly describe completeness of metric space. This means you do not understand the definition but JUST used Google Search to copy it without understanding its meaning. Cauchy sequences do not necessarily converge to a continuous function, so they do not have ALWAYS complete Metric Spaces, because they CAN have "Gaps". So COMPLETE Metric Space must INCLUDE the limit. Part of the definition says the Hilbert Space is a Banach Space which is complete when its Cauchy Sequence of its metric (defined by norm of inner products of element x in X) in Space X includes the boundary/limit of X, which is X, since it is a Metric Space. A Space which has those properties IS a Complete Metric Space.

You wrote "if the inner product of the Metric Space is complete"; this means something different. than the inner product of the norms that define the metric space. LOL

You said "Cauchy Sequence Criterion" , Cauchy Sequence Criterion are conditions which define what it means for a sequence to be Cauchy, it does not NECESSARILY have to be Complete. So this statement is BLATANTLY WRONG. Also Inner Product of Matrices is defined row by column product spaces So if you Multiplied an M X N Matrix by an M X N Matrix then the row space is lost in the operation, in other words, loses property of closure, and thus is NOT complete.

So In Summary
a.) You Do not Not understand the difference between Banach and Hilbert Spaces Or their definitions correctly
b) You did NOT answer the question actually asked of you.
c.) You INCORRECTLY stated the definition of Hilbert Space
d.) You quite possibly asked for help since the writing style of the sentence is NOT your usual writing sstyle

You have been exposed.



This is simply asking for definitions, which tells me you only have a superficial capacity to simply GOOGLE search terms but not actually understand their properties or the implications of their properties as I demonstrated by exposing your errors.

Anyways to answer your very superficial and trivial question. The difference is simply that in Affline Vector Space, the Zero Vector is not included thus conventional vector operations are limited to adding, subtracting vectors but points cannot be added or subtracted since they do not have a unique position. in Eucliedean Space it does have unique position. This changes how we define metric according to norms vs. distances.

I'd never have messaged you about anything intellectually related, You're substandard in even basic topics, you'd be incapable of being even functional in advanced ones as we can see by the e mistakes that you made here.

Lol---Look at this wanna be Math Kiddo, the closeness property is implied by the completeness property. And why had I to explain the answer ? Learn to state your question properly; if your decaying maghz can't do that I can help you with that. About Affine spaces, your answer is approximately correct but still not precisely correct. Should I tell why or can you that as a home-work?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Lol---Look at this wanna me Math Kiddo, the closeness property is implied by the completeness property. And why had I to explain the answer ? Learn to state your question properly; if your decaying maghz can't do that I can help you with that. About Affine spaces, your answer is approximately correct but still not precisely correct. Should I tell why or can you that as a home-work?

It's not "closeness" , closeness relates to neighborhoods, like something being within an episolon neighborhood. CLOSURE property is when operations will create an element in the space. They're related concepts but are NOT the same.

It took you 4 Days and STILL you're getting things wrong. Yes completeness does need closure but you didn't SAY what makes something complete. You need to say why something is isn't complete not simply "assume". My Question was stated the same way you'd find in an exam. You're just ignorant about Maths and lack an understanding about Abstract topics because you merely superficially regurgitate definitions which you didn't know. You lack understanding of the SUBTLE nature of Mathematics that's why you say things like "complete according to Cauchy Sequence Criterion" rather than Cauchy Series describing a Complete Space. The two statements are NOT equivalent because NOT all Cauchy sequences describe complete spaces. Don't call me wannabe Math, you can't even correctly state definitions LOL

My statement is correct, You said what makes an Affine vector space different from Euclidean vector space? Well THAT is one difference, the Zero Vector doesn't exist n Affine vector Space. You didn't say define Affine vector Space and Euclidean vector space and STATE all their difference. This means ONE difference is enough to denote their distinction. You need to learn to be Mathematically precise.

I See now why you're still stuck in Calculus III, a sophmore level undergraduate course. How many times did you repeat this course? You're older than I am and yet can't understand simple things like Vector Algebra/Analysis?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Hahaha zoor ka, my Ranganr friend you can go wash that Paki-gypsy mouth of yours before talking to a man of respect like me, I have already thrashed my cousin Nadeem Paracha for the dare-ness to talk about Bacha Khan.

Parachas come from Yemen supposedly

[Bengal_Tiger]

Punjabi nationalist, Nawaz Sharif puts pro-Hazara separatist as governor of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.



Hazara separatist, Mehtab Khan Abbasi.

“It is amazing to note that Sardar Mehtab Khan Abbasi is not a Pashtun. Moreover, since he has also raised slogans for an independent province of Hazara, he is not welcomed among Pashtu speaking people, especially among tribal elders who are all Pashtun. Moreover he is also not entitled to become the governor as the people of his own area had rejected him in recent general elections and rather a newcomer PTI man was elected as MNA,” a source in the ruling party said.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2014/04/05/national/can-a-non-pashtun-lead-kp/

1. Nawaz is a Punjabi nationalist and not a Pakistani nationalist. Instead of trying to understand the sensitivities of Pakistanis in a certain area (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) he is putting a Hazara separatist in power.

Nawaz does not care about the feelings of Pashtuns.



2. How can a man be appointed the governor of a province he is trying to break up?



3. How can a man be appointed the governor of millions of people whose language he does not even speak?



4. Nawaz may be trying to realize his goal of Hazara separatism through this controversial and unfair decision.

Pashtuns should unify and rally against the secession of Hazara division. Even on the internet people like WatanPal Yusufzai instead of wasting time and saying how wonderful the PMAP is and promoting the personality cult of Mahmood Khan Achakzai should raise the issue of Hazara separatism.


Hazara separatism is the greatest political threat to the Pashtuns of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.



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[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

@Bengali aka the bengali with Pakistan army blood.

mehtab abbasi is not a punjabi and hazara is part of kpk.They are 20% of KPK population.It means be it Cheif minister or Governor,anyone of them would be sometime from Hazara aswell.This is not your 10th era bangladesh where only one family is given PMship each year.We are in a democracy not under India like you people are.

We cannot ignore 20% of KPK population and than later Blame punjabis of not giving us president seat.

As long as Hazara is part of KPK,In almost every category they will come up.

beside this,your wrong that he don't know pashto considering that his background is pashtun majority

[Tiger Khan]

@Bengali aka the bengali with Pakistan army blood.

mehtab abbasi is not a punjabi and hazara is part of kpk.They are 20% of KPK population.It means be it Cheif minister or Governor,anyone of them would be sometime from Hazara aswell.This is not your 10th era bangladesh where only one family is given PMship each year.We are in a democracy not under India like you people are.

We cannot ignore 20% of KPK population and than later Blame punjabis of not giving us president seat.

As long as Hazara is part of KPK,In almost every category they will come up.

beside this,your wrong that he don't know pashto considering that his background is pashtun majority

I knw Mahtabs Abbassi Family well.. went to school with his kids.. they do not speak Pashto.. and have nothing like Pashtuns in them.