Is India in Afghanistan to help develop our economy or for there own interests?

[Michin Khel]

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if both want to see us die, we will declare and announce war. I hope Pakistan doesn't get us dragged into these wars with India.

These violent and aggressive thoughts will distract Afghans from re-building and progress of their country. They should concentrate on managing law and order situation there, not on fantasies about wars with india and pakistan.

So far the genuine destroyers of Afghanistan are British, USSR and US, yet Pakistan is held responsible for all problems of Afghans by you people.

[Michin Khel]

Rather than threats and warnings, why didnt Pakistan do what India has been doing there? Building the infrastructure and institutions. You guys could have done so much for Afghanistan. A long border, people to people relations, hundreds of years of shared history. And look what ISI and PA did. Exploit the people to control their land. And I guess Saudi Arabia and Pakistan were the only two countries to recognize the Taliban govt. in Kabul. Werent they? Doesnt that speaks volumes about the lack of goodwill towards Afghanistan?

http://www.pashtunforums.com/world-news-16/pakistan-raises-investment-afghanistan-$500-million-181/

[BLS_1919v2.0]

These violent and aggressive thoughts will distract Afghans from re-building and progress of their country. They should concentrate on managing law and order situation there, not on fantasies about wars with india and pakistan.

So far the genuine destroyers of Afghanistan are British, USSR and US, yet Pakistan is held responsible for all problems of Afghans by you people.

Luffy Pakistan was part of that...granted they don't deserve the entire blame, but they are far from innocent.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

BlS
why would Indian spend billions in aFghnistan?

There are strategic reasons, most probably Afghanistan is an umportant stepping stone to access trade and energy of Central Asia. India is a booming economy with a large population. They need alternatives to energy. Their firms can make business. There are multitude of reasons.

[Michin Khel]

Luffy Pakistan was part of that...granted they don't deserve the entire blame, but they are far from innocent.

Pakistan is not that innocent but as you said it does not deserve the entire blame.

[JihadFiSabilillah]

Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmtullahi wa Barakatuhu

Sorry for my late reply, I have been very busy with my job. Good day to all.

Back to topic:

RAW agency’s capacious competitor is ISI undoubtedly. ISI was organized 20 years ahead of RAW agency, and the main scheme of Raw agency was specifically to target ISI or Pakistan as a whole. Am I not right?

Seeing that I'm from Swat, I have an obvious perspective of the whole place of activity in Swat. I have witnessed these often doubtful “Taliban” with my very own naked eyes. Most not ever spoke Pashto. Without a doubt RAW was playing their game in Swat. Often on news, you will overhear that various of these so supposed “Taliban” are either Tajik or Uzbek. Both nationals, Uzbeks as well as Tajiks bear no knowledge of Islam. Approaching the initiation of Pakistan's operation in Swat, a large portion of these Taliban put up with fear shaved their beards, and a bountiful amount have been seized. The ones that were snatched were consorted to the media and they alleged to have been payed about 500 to 600 million dollars to convey such monstrous aggressions in Swat. Many of these busted Taliban foreseeing their death, further stated to have been funded by RAW. Their primary objective was to debilitate Pakistan, with their justification to accomplish Shariah Law.

A member of this forum also spoke of RAW agents entangled where ever in Pakistan including Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. From the 80’s to the 90’s, India has discharged over 8,000 RAW agents within Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Just imagine how prevalent they could be now.

My own experience being said, now its time we look at Afghanistan. India may have been assisting Afghanistan, however we shouldn't dismiss from mind considering the reality that their not that righteous either. We all know that up-to-date news articles presented Afghanistan owns gigantic bundle of Lithium, as well as additional Minerals that are worth over 3 trillion dollars. Lithium is the next commodity as it is being operated in Batteries, Laptops, Cars and so on... Lithium is additionally a big part of Renewable energy, moreover renewable energy is what the worlds looking forward to now a days. Lets not draw a blank on the fact that India has a big Computer Industry and now along with a big Automobile Industry, they would love to put there hands on these reserves. This not only goes for India, but all foreign hands in Afghanistan.

Ive mentioned earlier, Amrullah Saleh is a filthy lie himself. He was brought up by RAW and was spotted regretful for assisting anti Pashtun Activities in Afghanistan. The “ISI supports Taliban” matter that UK University alleged is all Amrullah Salehs work.

The below Incidents that Ive listed have RAW’s guidance.

• A car bomb explosion in Saddar area of Peshawar caused the deaths of 37 persons and injured over 50 others.
• An explosion at Shaukat Khanum Hospital claimed the lives of seven persons and injured to over 34 others.
• A bus traveling from Lahore to Sahiwal was blown up at Bhai Pheru causing the deaths of 44 persons on the spot and injuring 30 others.
• An explosion in a bus near the Sheikhupura hospital killed 9 persons and injured 29 others.
• An explosion near Alam chowk, Gujranwala killed 3 persons and injured 11 others.
• A bomb exploded on a bus on GT Road near Kharian killing 2 persons and injuring 10 others.
• An explosion opposite Madrassah Faizul Islam, Faizabad, Rawalpindi, killed 5 persons and injured over 50 others.
• A bomb explosion in the Faisalabad railway station passenger lounge killed 3 persons and injured 20 others.
• RAW allegedly executed a hijacking of an Indian Airliner to Lahore in 1971 which was attributed to the Kashmiris, to give a terrorist dimension to the Kashmiri national movement. However soon the extent of RAW's involvement was made public.

FYI, there are MORE poorer people in “India” than the whole of Africa. They receive no food, no schools, no hospitals, no home, no life. Why would India care to help Afghanistan? Does India not care for their own citizens?

Why don't the so called peaceful India help these innocent children that eat off of trash?



YouTube - Poverty in Bombay


Correct me if I'm wrong. Assalamu Alaikum.

[Nokia_Apridy]

Originally Posted by shlombay
No body here supports Indians. We support anyone who want to help us.

**** mara Ma wail chay ta kha Takra Soch larunkay Zalmay wa

Zma khob da mat kru chay ta hem Dasey khbra ba kway.....

MUNG TA DA CHA KHERYAT NA DA PUKAR INDIA ka TAMIL zan ta state

ghwere...........INDIA ka zma na dar khwaran di

wor da wolgey pa INDIA PAKISTAN AMREKA FARSIWAN IRAN pa tolo

[JihadFiSabilillah]

YouTube - Lucknow India: Children Eating from Filth

[JihadFiSabilillah]

Name Anti-Pashtun activities commited by Saleh

If you don't think I'm a credible source, then ask Shlombay.

[muhsina]

Mujahid fi sabeelit taghoot
The poverty of India does not justify the exploitation ,loot and plunder of your Punjabi masters. You might claim to be from swat but from your writing it is quite obvious that you are one of the the same ilk as the muslim sardar ji's on the Pakistani side whom the afghans have defeated under the leadership of Ahmed shah baba.

I am sure you are another bootlicker of the brown sahibs of GHQ who themselves were the peons of the Brits. You are justifying and defending ISI murderers who have been parasites on the economy of Pakistan and who have been sucking the blood of the poor pakistani to realise their malicious agendas.

The major preys for their blood-thirst are the Pakthuns of Pakhtunkhwa and the Baloch of Balochistan even if they try to struggle for their right democratically as is obvious from today's target killing of Habib Jalib baloch of BNP - a typical inhumane act of your ISI.

We are already sick of the the propaganda of the other slaves of the Punjabi empire and you seem to be a new recruit persuing the agenda of "jihad fi sabeelit taghoot".

[KhalsaWarrior]

[QUOTE=JihadFiSabilillah;84311]

Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmtullahi wa Barakatuhu

Sorry for my late reply, I have been very busy with my job. Good day to all.

Back to topic:

RAW agency’s capacious competitor is ISI undoubtedly. ISI was organized 20 years ahead of RAW agency, and the main scheme of Raw agency was specifically to target ISI or Pakistan as a whole. Am I not right?

Wrong. RAW is an externally focussed intelligence agency. Its job is to ward off external threats, be it Pakistani or Chinese or any other nation for that matter. ISI would be its primary adversary, but not the only one.

Seeing that I'm from Swat, I have an obvious perspective of the whole place of activity in Swat. I have witnessed these often doubtful “Taliban” with my very own naked eyes. Most not ever spoke Pashto. Without a doubt RAW was playing their game in Swat. Often on news, you will overhear that various of these so supposed “Taliban” are either Tajik or Uzbek. Both nationals, Uzbeks as well as Tajiks bear no knowledge of Islam. Approaching the initiation of Pakistan's operation in Swat, a large portion of these Taliban put up with fear shaved their beards, and a bountiful amount have been seized. The ones that were snatched were consorted to the media and they alleged to have been payed about 500 to 600 million dollars to convey such monstrous aggressions in Swat. Many of these busted Taliban foreseeing their death, further stated to have been funded by RAW. Their primary objective was to debilitate Pakistan, with their justification to accomplish Shariah Law.

A member of this forum also spoke of RAW agents entangled where ever in Pakistan including Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. From the 80’s to the 90’s, India has discharged over 8,000 RAW agents within Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Just imagine how prevalent they could be now.

I am from Punjab and I saw Pakistan supported Khalistan terrorism in India in the 80s. Does that make me an expert and a credible source on ISI's role in India? Of course not. Unless we know how things work from the inside we cant claim anything. All we have at our disposal is world opinion, neutral articles and reports. Quote them if you can. If all you have to share is your own anecdotes and hearsay, then I feel sorry for you.

My own experience being said, now its time we look at Afghanistan. India may have been assisting Afghanistan, however we shouldn't dismiss from mind considering the reality that their not that righteous either. We all know that up-to-date news articles presented Afghanistan owns gigantic bundle of Lithium, as well as additional Minerals that are worth over 3 trillion dollars. Lithium is the next commodity as it is being operated in Batteries, Laptops, Cars and so on... Lithium is additionally a big part of Renewable energy, moreover renewable energy is what the worlds looking forward to now a days. Lets not draw a blank on the fact that India has a big Computer Industry and now along with a big Automobile Industry, they would love to put there hands on these reserves. This not only goes for India, but all foreign hands in Afghanistan.

For the 100th time - Yes India does have strategic interests in Afghanistan! It isnt there for charity.

Ive mentioned earlier, Amrullah Saleh is a filthy lie himself. He was brought up by RAW and was spotted regretful for assisting anti Pashtun Activities in Afghanistan. The “ISI supports Taliban” matter that UK University alleged is all Amrullah Salehs work.

Have heard the name but dont know much about this guy.

The below Incidents that Ive listed have RAW’s guidance.

• A car bomb explosion in Saddar area of Peshawar caused the deaths of 37 persons and injured over 50 others.
• An explosion at Shaukat Khanum Hospital claimed the lives of seven persons and injured to over 34 others.
• A bus traveling from Lahore to Sahiwal was blown up at Bhai Pheru causing the deaths of 44 persons on the spot and injuring 30 others.
• An explosion in a bus near the Sheikhupura hospital killed 9 persons and injured 29 others.
• An explosion near Alam chowk, Gujranwala killed 3 persons and injured 11 others.
• A bomb exploded on a bus on GT Road near Kharian killing 2 persons and injuring 10 others.
• An explosion opposite Madrassah Faizul Islam, Faizabad, Rawalpindi, killed 5 persons and injured over 50 others.
• A bomb explosion in the Faisalabad railway station passenger lounge killed 3 persons and injured 20 others.
• RAW allegedly executed a hijacking of an Indian Airliner to Lahore in 1971 which was attributed to the Kashmiris, to give a terrorist dimension to the Kashmiri national movement. However soon the extent of RAW's involvement was made public.

While I am not a hate-monger but for a country whose foreign policy is based on covert war and bleeding through a thousand cuts, the above fall under "Reap what you sow"

FYI, there are MORE poorer people in “India” than the whole of Africa. They receive no food, no schools, no hospitals, no home, no life. Why would India care to help Afghanistan? Does India not care for their own citizens?

Why don't the so called peaceful India help these innocent children that eat off of trash?

[COLOR=#000099][FONT=Arial][U]YouTube - Lucknow India: Children Eating from Filth

Check my response to a similar post above.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Assalamu Alaikum.

Yes you are wrong. Check above for correction.

[KhalsaWarrior]

Mujahid fi sabeelit taghoot
The poverty of India does not justify the exploitation ,loot and plunder of your Punjabi masters. You might claim to be from swat but from your writing it is quite obvious that you are one of the the same ilk as the muslim sardar ji's on the Pakistani side whom the afghans have defeated under the leadership of Ahmed shah baba.

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Whats a Muslim Sardarji?

[muhsina]

Whats a Muslim Sardarji?

This Mujahid fi sabeelit Taghoot is an example of what I call a Muslim Sardar Ji a term I use to mention the hypocisy of these peons of the brits who would go to the extent of earning money at the cost of Afghan blood for their kith and kins but would teach terrorism to the innocent Afghans so that they can add to the maps of their real estate in Islamabad and elsewhere.

[eusuphxai]

This Mujahid fi sabeelit Taghoot is an example of what I call a Muslim Sardar Ji a term I use to mention the hypocisy of these peons of the brits who would go to the extent of earning money at the cost of Afghan blood for their kith and kins but would teach terrorism to the innocent Afghans so that they can add to the maps of their real estate in Islamabad and elsewhere.

I am a skih and you have offended me

you call a cheat sardar ji ??

[KhalsaWarrior]

This Mujahid fi sabeelit Taghoot is an example of what I call a Muslim Sardar Ji a term I use to mention the hypocisy of these peons of the brits who would go to the extent of earning money at the cost of Afghan blood for their kith and kins but would teach terrorism to the innocent Afghans so that they can add to the maps of their real estate in Islamabad and elsewhere.

So Sardar/Sikh is synonymous with a hypocrite and cheat? I am curious to know the reasons behind such thinking. Not that I am offended in any way, but its unfortunate if you think this way.