Afghanistan: My Enemy's Enemy

[RevolutionThroughReason]

i have significant family in Andar, your average villager may be able to put together a half ass conversation in Farsi but people are not fluent like that, amongst Pashtun villages that is

They're pretty fluent given there are Tajiks and Farsizuban in Ghazni.

[KGODB]

Are you Andarr by tribe or are you from any other tribe in Andarr?

Half my family is from Andar

[RevolutionThroughReason]

What is so hard to comprehend, he is not from the village where the uprising is happening but from another village infested by Taliban that he has left behind to join Engineer. Simple.

Taliban supporters are looking for something ...ANYTHING that can use to discredit opposition...no matter how far fetched and nebulous or splitting hairs it is. because it blows holes in their narrative that they represent the "Common Afghan" which they certainly do not.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Half my family is from Andar

I thought you're from Kunarh?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

This really was an uprising and must be distinguished from other arbakis and militias. I personally know people from Andarr, without a doubt Assadullah Khalid was assisting them.

Yes, thats why this uprising is not a peoples uprising but rather a scam by Ikhwanis of Hizbe ghaire Islami and that mass murderer Assadullah Khalid.

[ComradePashtun]

It does not make it anything else or less than an uprising against the tyranny of Talib animals and their foreign terrorist associates. Talibs were simply rejected and ejected, which is a good thing.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

thats what i noticed as well

lotfallahs farsi is more indicative of what a Ghaznichi villagers farsi would sound like

i might need to holla at my contacts in Ghazni to find out what the deal is

That wasn't Lutfullah speaking that part.....epic fail. Lutfullah is an Engineer so his language skills would be pretty fluent in most languages.

KGODB you're just Killzai troling this thread. Get out of here. LOL

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Yes, thats why this uprising is not a peoples uprising but rather a scam by Ikhwanis of Hizbe ghaire Islami and that mass murderer Assadullah Khalid.

According to who? Certainly not anything in the Video

[khushal]

Shamlawar Khurrasani = Sick fanatical ******* who talks of rectitude yet would concoct all sorts of lies to fit his story and to repudiate what he doesn't like

Khushal = An Asinine dumb moron who likes to interminably argue, some one who is born outside Afghanistan yet likes to argue about ground reality and Pashtun way of life

Why are you always so vulgar. Is it because you cant debate rationally. No one is claiming their was no violence against the Taliban in andar. What I said back then when the story first came out was that it was not a peoples uprising. There are tribal and clan rivalries who have disputes over land. If one claims to fight the Taliban, their motive is to get resources from the gov. As long as the gov provides some resources, other clans who have similar disputes would try the same thing. the motive is not to fight the Taliban because their dispute is not with them, the motive is to have one up against the rival clan, to try to push them out and take their land. The weaker clan who gets no or little resources from the gov brings in the Taliban to try to strengthen their side against their rival. Its you who don't know the ground realities. you are probably a western born who know nothing about how the rurals live who are 85% of the population. Living in Kabul is not a prerequisite to know about afghansitan.

The main point is that the gov is a falilure. the rurals do not accept the constitution written by a foreigner. the brits, ruskies and the amreicans have failed to create a nation state. pashtunwali rules here and it gives the people authority over their affairs not some foreigner that has written a constitution for them.

[khushal]

KGODB is not Killzai. He is afghan where killzai is paksitani

[ComradePashtun]

So aren't you a Paki born? When was the last time you went to Afghanistan Mr. Paki?

There isn't a shred of evidence to prove that the uprising is due tribal or clan rivalry. Can you provide proof? No you can't I know, so shut up.

These people simply spurned Talibanology and fought against them to eject the forces of darkness from their areas because their presence meant poverty, misery and nothing positive. Did you hear what the woman had to say about them? Talibanism is a fairly recen phenomenon (by-product of Russian invasion and Paki Madrassas's radical curricula) and does not belong to the natural structures that regulate the Pashtun society, that is why and according to you they exploit difference among the tribes where they then impose themselves.

The government is without a doubt a failure and no one is defending the government.

[ComradePashtun]

What does the Taliban have to do with Pashtunwali, moron?

[KGODB]

That wasn't Lutfullah speaking that part.....epic fail. Lutfullah is an Engineer so his language skills would be pretty fluent in most languages.

KGODB you're just Killzai troling this thread. Get out of here. LOL

You seem confused.

During the clip Lotfallah makes a couple attempts at Farsi and struggles, then reverts to answering Dari questions with Pashto answers

His farsi is more reflective of your AVERAGE Pashtun villager from Ghazni

The other dude was speaking Farsi with a fluency that is not typical of your average Pashtun villager from Ghazni

And Im not Killzai.

I thought you're from Kunarh?

Di Ghaznay Yam

[khushal]

So aren't you a Paki born? When was the last time you went to Afghanistan Mr. Paki?

There isn't a shred of evidence to prove that the uprising is due tribal or clan rivalry. Can you provide proof? No you can't I know, so shut up.

These people simply spurned Talibanology and fought against them to eject the forces of darkness from their areas because their presence meant poverty, misery and nothing positive. Did you hear what the woman had to say about them? Talibanism is a fairly recen phenomenon (by-product of Russian invasion and Paki Madrassas's radical curricula) and does not belong to the natural structures that regulate the Pashtun society, that is why and according to you they exploit difference among the tribes where they then impose themselves.

The government is without a doubt a failure and no one is defending the government.

Mr WEstern born who just move to Kabul and thinks he knows everything now,
you don't know afghans. its a ploy like that afghan who duped the US generals and Karzai pretending to be a Taliban peace envoy. Its a ploy to get money and weapons:
http://www.airforcetimes.com/article...gainst-Taliban

"We wanted to spread the uprising," Kamran said. "We are close to including other districts in Ghazni but cannot move forward because we lack weapons and financial support."
Some say the uprising is already fracturing amid internal disputes. An expert with the Afghanistan Analysts Network, a Kabul-based think tank, said leaders of the uprising are guilty of committing their own abuses against villagers.
"So far, these guys are not well-structured and have rivalries within the movement," said researcher Emal Habib, a pseudonym he uses to protect family still in Ghazni. He said locals accuse the uprising fighters of "robbing, detaining and killing anyone who supports the Taliban."
Habib said the origin story of the fledgling uprising has been misconstrued, asserting it was originally a battle between rival militant groups: the Taliban vs. the Hezb-e-Islami, otherwise known as HIG.

[Niazi]

The only inhuman ,and so called unislamic are Wahhabis Taliban ,even the old lady hated their guts and she called them foreign invader and rightly so .

As thread starter himself a Wahhabi proved that they hate any humane who aren't Salafi.

I feel sorry for poor ordinary Pashtuns who stuck between rock and hard place,

The hizbis in Andarr are fighting Taliban due to tribal hostilities. Hizbis are kharoti and taliban are andarr and other rival ghiljay tribes.

This is another Pathatic attempt by Salafi trying to make it look like a tribal dispute ,witch is clearly not ,this Salafi is more dangerous to Afghans then any other enemy we might have ,the clue is in his name if you know what I mean. He is devious ,and aWolf in sheep skin.