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  • #16
    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
    Now Barakzai with his sodomized Akhwani mentality is coming up with that propaganda ---Yes, Malala gave out a speech at a Marksi funstion, that doesn't mean she is a Marksist. I know her family and father indirectly though and I know he stood up of to Taleban pressure at worst time and criticized Pakistan Army as well ---- And suffered as a consequence ---

    Now instead of criticizing Taleban who pushed this girl into that situation he is coming with the typical venomous Islmo-fascist progpaganda although he himself here has disclosed proudly his father is an employ of US army.

    Instead of targeting others , give up your filthy hypocritical existence in US and like a noble human being go and die for your convictions yet you are pulsating your filthy tummy with "infidel" money yet are pouring scorn at others when others do it---


    Like a crow he eats **** by living in America da darul harb in his fanatic bigot thinking and then shakes his beak in disgust.

    All Akhwanis need few days in Guatmo.
    PESHAWAR: Angry Pakistani girls protested on Wednesday against the renaming of their school after shot teenage activist Malala Yousafzai, saying the move would make them a target for militants.
    Around 150 students boycotted classes at what is now the Government Malala College for Girls in Saidu Sharif, in the Swat Valley, tearing up and stoning pictures of the 15-year-old, accusing her of abandoning Pakistan by going to Britain for treatment.
    The Pakistan government has renamed numerous schools in honour of Malala, who was shot in the head by the Taliban in October for championing girls’ education in Swat and is now recovering in a British hospital.
    The students at what was previously known as the Government College for Girls said they had repeatedly asked the principal to remove the plate with the new name, fearing it would invite the attention of militants.
    “We came out when the principal finally refused to accept our demand,” student Shaista Ahmed said. “We feel the college would be the potential target of militants.
    “I joined others who chanted slogans against Malala and pelted stones on her picture because she had left the country to settle abroad. We are poor, we cannot afford it and we will suffer because she has fled to Britain.”
    Local government official Niaz Ali Khan told AFP the protesting students were “very angry and aggressive” and tore up a portrait of Malala which the authorities had erected on a college wall after the Taliban attack.
    “The students ended their protest after we promised to convey their demand to the authorities,” he said.
    Student Mah Noor, 19, said: “Malala herself is in Britain but other girls will remain in Swat. She will not come back to Pakistan, then what is the need to rename the college after her?”
    Malala first rose to prominence aged just 11 with a blog for the BBC Urdu service in 2009 in which she described life in Swat during the bloody rule of the Taliban.
    Taliban hit-men shot her on her school bus in Mingora, the main town in Swat, for the “crime” of campaigning for girls’ rights to go to school, but she survived after surgery in Pakistan.
    She was sent to Britain for further treatment and her courage has won the hearts of millions around the world, prompting the United Nations to observe a “global day of action” for her last month.
    Malala’s father Ziauddin Yousafzai, a former teacher and headmaster, has been appointed UN adviser on education.






    The Malala Yousafzai story has been a construct from the very beginning. It was never real, none of it. Malala was not some kid who just loved education so much she decided to be a politician in order to champion girl’s education rights.
    She wanted to be a doctor but her overbearing pathological father wanted to use her to make himself the new “education czar” of Pakistan’s new for-profit school program courtesy of their former colonizers, the Great Britain.
    At best he put her in harm’s way, directly in the sights of the most feared group in Pakistan. At worse he turned her life into one long endless lie for his own greed and ambition. That sets a fine example for the kids these days doesn’t it?
    Now he’s been officially knighted by Gordon Brown and UNESCO and all he had to do was pimp out his daughter for the honor.
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    Last edited by afghan; 04-10-2013, 09:38 PM.

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    • #17
      Actually, all Mullahs, are nastiest species on the face of earth. And this Barakzai especially has acquired all the evil traits of a Mullah and none of the virtues a Mullah rarely may demonstrate. He is a venomous vengeful propagandadist not willing to forgive until things are in accordance with his fanatic Islamo-fascist insanity. And he even cannot forgive a 13-14 years young impressionist child who is not yet aware of the motives and deceits of this world.

      Her father might have desired something for her but who don't back home. Every second father in our part of the world has the same aspiration to want his kid to be a doctor, an engineer, a scientist, a general, a politician, or a famous person, etc. Now Barakzai Al-Akhwani is claiming, his father was preparing her for some other motives. This is the extreme of ignobility.

      And she might have said something in that Marxist program the same as all Mullahs attend functions in the West and at other "impure" places. Now Barakzai Al-Akhwani is trying to create the impression she is a Marxist.

      Barakzai himself boosted of as how his father is a servant of US army and how he attended school and church functions. It is like someone declares him a CIA agent on that ground. And the disappointing thing is, there are guys here who are clapping to him and his venomous propaganda.

      I think Ziauddin and Malala have the right to respond this venom.
      Last edited by Toramana; 04-10-2013, 10:16 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by afghan View Post
        PESHAWAR: Angry Pakistani girls protested on Wednesday against the renaming of their school after shot teenage activist Malala Yousafzai, saying the move would make them a target for militants.
        Around 150 students boycotted classes at what is now the Government Malala College for Girls in Saidu Sharif, in the Swat Valley, tearing up and stoning pictures of the 15-year-old, accusing her of abandoning Pakistan by going to Britain for treatment.
        The Pakistan government has renamed numerous schools in honour of Malala, who was shot in the head by the Taliban in October for championing girls’ education in Swat and is now recovering in a British hospital.
        The students at what was previously known as the Government College for Girls said they had repeatedly asked the principal to remove the plate with the new name, fearing it would invite the attention of militants.
        “We came out when the principal finally refused to accept our demand,” student Shaista Ahmed said. “We feel the college would be the potential target of militants.
        “I joined others who chanted slogans against Malala and pelted stones on her picture because she had left the country to settle abroad. We are poor, we cannot afford it and we will suffer because she has fled to Britain.”
        Local government official Niaz Ali Khan told AFP the protesting students were “very angry and aggressive” and tore up a portrait of Malala which the authorities had erected on a college wall after the Taliban attack.
        “The students ended their protest after we promised to convey their demand to the authorities,” he said.
        Student Mah Noor, 19, said: “Malala herself is in Britain but other girls will remain in Swat. She will not come back to Pakistan, then what is the need to rename the college after her?”
        Malala first rose to prominence aged just 11 with a blog for the BBC Urdu service in 2009 in which she described life in Swat during the bloody rule of the Taliban.
        Taliban hit-men shot her on her school bus in Mingora, the main town in Swat, for the “crime” of campaigning for girls’ rights to go to school, but she survived after surgery in Pakistan.
        She was sent to Britain for further treatment and her courage has won the hearts of millions around the world, prompting the United Nations to observe a “global day of action” for her last month.
        Malala’s father Ziauddin Yousafzai, a former teacher and headmaster, has been appointed UN adviser on education.




        Malala’s Daddy Hits Pay Dirt: For-Profit Education as a Means to Indoctrinate Pakistanis | American Everyman

        The Malala Yousafzai story has been a construct from the very beginning. It was never real, none of it. Malala was not some kid who just loved education so much she decided to be a politician in order to champion girl’s education rights.
        She wanted to be a doctor but her overbearing pathological father wanted to use her to make himself the new “education czar” of Pakistan’s new for-profit school program courtesy of their former colonizers, the Great Britain.
        At best he put her in harm’s way, directly in the sights of the most feared group in Pakistan. At worse he turned her life into one long endless lie for his own greed and ambition. That sets a fine example for the kids these days doesn’t it?
        Now he’s been officially knighted by Gordon Brown and UNESCO and all he had to do was pimp out his daughter for the honor.
        ...................................
        We know some Afghans have jumped on the bandwagon of Akhwanism, Gulbuddunism, Mullah Omarism, etc. since few decades and have infected the whole region with the deadly virus of fanatic religious authoritarianism and violence but that doesn't mean we bear with that.

        Now the simple fact is poor Ziauddin was running a school for a long time in Swat and loved his daughter to be famous person. There is no conspiracy in that. Which father in our region hasn't want that or hasn't pushed his child to be something of a scientist, a general, a politician, etc.?

        Now claiming that Ziauddin had some evil designs and orchestrated the attack on his own child can be the thinking of some sick minded sadist that should have his heads examined. Of course he wanted his wanted his daughter to be active but the tragedy hit his family suddenly because the militant had threatened to attack his daughter again.

        Rest some girl protesting the renaming of the college that was the local politics of Swat where Wali Swat family who themselves are the creation of British imperialism subverted the initiative.

        Last edited by Toramana; 04-10-2013, 10:14 PM.

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        • #19
          According to ziauddin

          Can't join the the forum because the few venomous propagandists just meant for to bite others. We are very clear in what we are doing and will leave to history to respond.

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          • #20
            Ziauddin has been a lapdog of the pak army for years. He did a very good job for pak army. If this was some other pashtun being a lapdog of pak army then what would be the response of Toramana, Badlun and some others ?????????????????
            Secular Toramana, Badlun, Zalmay like him because he is a secular hypocrite having his own motives no matter he worked for isi, pak army or pak sarzameen shaad baad. Also remember he love Pakistan the most hahahaha....
            Last edited by Friend; 04-12-2013, 04:13 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Toramana View Post
              We know some Afghans have jumped on the bandwagon of Akhwanism, Gulbuddunism, Mullah Omarism, etc. since few decades and have infected the whole region with the deadly virus of fanatic religious authoritarianism and violence but that doesn't mean we bear with that.

              Now the simple fact is poor Ziauddin was running a school for a long time in Swat and loved his daughter to be famous person. There is no conspiracy in that. Which father in our region hasn't want that or hasn't pushed his child to be something of a scientist, a general, a politician, etc.?

              Now claiming that Ziauddin had some evil designs and orchestrated the attack on his own child can be the thinking of some sick minded sadist that should have his heads examined. Of course he wanted his wanted his daughter to be active but the tragedy hit his family suddenly because the militant had threatened to attack his daughter again.

              Rest some girl protesting the renaming of the college that was the local politics of Swat where Wali Swat family who themselves are the creation of British imperialism subverted the initiative.
              some times you dont make sense. every father love his child. do you really think she was capable of giving those speeches when she was 10 with out being pushed by her father into the media? how many children died during the attackes, how many police were slaughtered by paki army(taliban)? how many of them are remembered by pakies or international media? He has forced other people's children from his school to rally in support of paki army. what if those children would have have been attacked and killed? whould you still consider him a hero? the pakies and international media needed another samar minallah they found her, luckily that poor child survived.
              Was her father ever been targetted directly by the so called taliban? if he was such an outspoken person. dont give the crape of ziauddin being educationist. he is a business man he would reach the top by all mean.

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              • #22
                One question:

                whatever the goals of her father or marxist puppeteers may be, how can anyone argue that shooting a teenage girl in the face is actually something that should be blamed on herself or the people that instrumentalize her?

                Who is pulling the trigger and why?
                The only constant is change.

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                • #23
                  i think we have gone beyond that question, the answer is that there are crazy people who have no qualms about taking lives to prove a point. now that the girl has survived and her families past has been brought up after this ridiculous amount of international attention, its time to start asking questions about this girl and who she is.
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #24
                    She is a insignificant person with no agenda or political background on a personal level.

                    What she stands for: womens rights and the right of girls to free education are subject beyond her person.

                    These two subjects may have been hijacked by a father who instrumentalized her but that doesn´t take away the fact that Taliban had banned girls from going to school, that they burn down schools and bare women from taking part in public life.

                    The question is not who she is because who can a 16 year old instrumentalized girl be? She is a surreal creation of a father and his political ambitions. She isn´t even a fully developed personality.
                    The only constant is change.

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                    • #25
                      Here comes a fact:
                      No one is special, or more valuable than others.

                      What I am about to say might hurt, so read with caution:
                      For the past 4 decades, nearly half a million children have died, of which thousands could've been the future Pashtun doctors, Engineers, Computer Scientists, yet no mention or remembrance of them. Yet all of a sudden this one case is exaggerated beyond my comprehension. It's one thing if we use this case as a way of remembering the thousands of other Pashtun children that died for no reason, but to ignore the others[including the 2 girls that were attacked with Malala], and associate a value of 'special' with this child is nothing by hypocritical and I condemn it. I also condemn those who prevent female education, I condemn those who tried stopping Malala from receiving an education, but for the sake of whichever God may believe in, recognize that nearly a million children have been murked in a worser fashion, and it hurts the hearts of those fathers to see their child get no recognition for dying for no reason, still not knowing why his child had to leave; yet a teenager(who is now in the UK, rich probably has a net value than all PF members combined, alive, a father who has diplomatic great job) receive all this press is an insult to those children who are already dead without a reason. All human lives are equal, and you know society has reached an all time low when the value of innocent human is worth more than of the other innocent human.

                      These are my thoughts, disagree, or agree, whether you know her dad or not, you can't hide away from the fact that 11 children just died this week, and here we are still in tears as to how a child got attacked, is alive and rich, receiving a word-class education. Clearly our priorities are in the wrong place, which is why it is so easy to put a price tag on someone from the AFPAK region. What would make me happy is taking that million dollar pay check for the book and opening some schools in the Pashtunistan region, or cleaning up some mines in the region which takes away the lives of children, oh the irony.
                      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                      • #26
                        I do not blame the family for leaving for medical treatment when Malala needed it, but in the Class Dismissed documentary Ziauddin Yousafzai makes a pledge to not leave his people in Swat (ever?). See it here at around 5 mins. At 12 mins Ziauddin repeats his pledge to Swat, but what follows are his clear political ambitions that he channels through Malala, against the fact that she wanted an education to be a doctor. The fact that the family have now left Swat and enrolled Malala in one of the UK's most exclusive fee-paying schools seems to go against the principles on which the earlier arguments were made.

                        So that it is understood that I do not follow any conspiracies, I genuinely wish them well. I just wish the same was true for all Pashtun children/families in a similar situation. This is the thing that occupies the part in my head that is looking for clarity.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                          I do not blame the family for leaving for medical treatment when Malala needed it, but in the Class Dismissed documentary Ziauddin Yousafzai makes a pledge to not leave his people in Swat (ever?). See it here at around 5 mins. At 12 mins Ziauddin repeats his pledge to Swat, but what follows are his clear political ambitions that he channels through Malala, against the fact that she wanted an education to be a doctor. The fact that the family have now left Swat and enrolled Malala in one of the UK's most exclusive fee-paying schools seems to go against the principles on which the earlier arguments were made.

                          So that it is understood that I do not follow any conspiracies, I genuinely wish them well. I just wish the same was true for all Pashtun children/families in a similar situation. This is the thing that occupies the part in my head that is looking for clarity.
                          I think that is a baseless argument. Your real grudge isn't against why he gave up his pledges to Swat---Obviously, you know any father including yourself sane an entirely selfless saint who unfortunately could rarely be found in Islamist history, when it comes to the safety of his child life would give up the strongest of his pledges.

                          I think you should have the moral honesty not to camouflage the real reason for your grudge against Ziauddin Saib which precisely is why did he accept political position with Gorden Brown. So kindly, don't mention that bogus reason.

                          The same happened to Ziauddin Sahib. I know the guy. He was the president of the private school association, Swat and fully dedicated to the school he was running until targeted by the forces you and others here perceive as the Islamist answer to Western aggression against Muslims and covertly empathize with. He had to move with his family to England because his daughter was being treated there and needed his care something all parents including yourself would do if caught in such a situation ....

                          More importantly also that Taleban had threatened to target Malala again. He had no other option.

                          Moreover, to you and the rest of the lot that have criticized Ziauddin Saib, I say one thing ---Before subjecting others to such high moral standards, can you people yourself adhere to the moral standards you are demanding of Ziauddin Saib?
                          Last edited by Toramana; 04-13-2013, 02:00 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Ziauddin Saib if you reading this stuff I will tell you one thing i.e. now that you have accepted that position, do one thing ----try to improve the lot of the people back home if you can ---and don't trust Western leaders much --- they use such cases for aggressive, demoralizing, demonizing propaganda against their perceived adversaries.

                            I urge you draw the enlightened liberal inspiration from our own lights like Bacha Khan and Gandhi and from our own values. Remember, what anti-imperialists they were.

                            And there is a fundamental problem with the lot that is criticizing you here i.e. while they bemoan Western domination they cannot present a moral response to it i.e. stable, self dependent Muslim societies where rule of law and justice and opportunity for all including little girls like Malala prevail ---Failing they fall on the Taleban type people to vent the feelings of humiliation and victim hood.

                            Rest all these people are mostly West-born West bred ---I call them the crows that eat s.h.it yet shake their beaks in disgust---(Karghan ghwal khori aow makhuki sandi )----

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                            • #29
                              Also while the rest of these people might have a point, Barakzai and Friend are outright Talebs probably more sinister than worst Mullahs could be (hahaha ---chai lag attack pai oko---).

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                              • #30
                                Salamoona Tor Khan,


                                Give me a chance to respond later tonight before posting your own if you feel that is ok... As it may offer some more fruit for thought and we all will benefit from yours!



                                Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                                I do not blame the family for leaving for medical treatment when Malala needed it, but in the Class Dismissed documentary Ziauddin Yousafzai makes a pledge to not leave his people in Swat (ever?). See it here at around 5 mins. At 12 mins Ziauddin repeats his pledge to Swat, but what follows are his clear political ambitions that he channels through Malala, against the fact that she wanted an education to be a doctor. The fact that the family have now left Swat and enrolled Malala in one of the UK's most exclusive fee-paying schools seems to go against the principles on which the earlier arguments were made.

                                So that it is understood that I do not follow any conspiracies, I genuinely wish them well. I just wish the same was true for all Pashtun children/families in a similar situation. This is the thing that occupies the part in my head that is looking for clarity.
                                "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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