Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Malala Redux

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Malala Redux

    I saw the book deal link and I am sure this post will set off a pretty intense series of insults... but as you all know I could really care less about the opinions of others.

    I want to start this off by quoting from a respectible figure, our very own Tor Khan for what I am about to lay out.

    "Malala's desire for an education was genuine; but she she has been thrust into the firing line by an ambitious father"
    Malala: “I want to ba a doctor but my father told me you have to be a politician. But I don’t like politics.”
    Father: “My daughter can be better than a doctor.”
    apart from the fact that I think most politics stinks what is clear here is that even educated women are routinely being used by others and denied the right to choose."
    http://www.pashtunforums.com/world-n...09/index6.html

    A few things right off the bat:

    1. Whatever the circumstances, however war torn a country is, most human beings accept that shooting a child (relatively speaking) in the head is wrong, period. It doesnt matter if the child openly worships Satan or walks with angels. Secular ethical and religious ethical codes all agree on this point.
    2. It appears that attacking symbolic human beings whether with the establishment or resistance will create the basis for overturning your moral imperitive. Take for instance the killing of Bhutto. That move was in many ways responsible for one of the most corrupt human beings on earth being propelled into power on an emotional counterwave. Or Musharraf killing Bugti did not put a lid on Balochi resistance... it only widened its appeal.

    So ethically and practically speaking its a double wrong.

    However, I think her selling her story has allowed for an ability to dissect her case and understand it in the context of the wider "war on terrorism" and the cultural and historical commentary. We now have the ability to freely discuss this case and investigate it as was done with Mortensen in Three Cups of Tea since when money exchanges hands, eyes are allowed to pry.

    So who is Mr. Ziauddin Yusufzai, the father?

    I have been reading up on these folks. Here are some hard and fast facts. Ziauddin Yousafzai is operational and not a bystander:

    "Nazim Swat Jamal Nasir, Nazim Batkhela Abdul Jabbar and Ziauddin Yousafzai said although they were satisfied with the pace of the operation, the people of Malakand division wanted elimination of the top Taliban leadership."

    http://www.airra.org/newsandanalysis...timeframe.html

    He is a board member of AIRRA and was an activist in his college days. AIRRA is a "think-tank" or perhaps better to be called, propaganda center, for secular militancy:
    http://www.airra.org/aboutus/

    "With an M.A,B.Ed, Ziauddin Yousufzai is presently director of Khushal Public School & College, a renowned private educational institution in Swat. He got recognition as an activist as a student leader during his studies at Jahanzeb College Swat from1988 to 1990. In 1994, he founded a literary society named Hafiz Alpurai Pukhto Adabi Tolana and remained its president for four years. He has organized numerous Mushairas, books inauguration ceremonies and other literary programmes. He was elected as president of Private Schools Management Association (PSMA) Swat 2004 to 2006.He used this plate form to promote the grand cause of education. He is also the president of Global Peace Council, an N G O working for the peace and prosperity of the people. Moreover, he is an active member of Swat Qaumi Aman Jarga. Apart from writing critical appreciation on various books, he has three literary works to his credit."

    One of the lead members of AIRRA is the ever dubious Farhat Taj Andersen.

    What we know for sure is that Taj Andersen and her ilk are socialist marxists and very motivated militant secularists - willing to fudge the numbers to justify perpetual war.
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/social.../message/15954
    ^her membership above with a socialist group.

    In summary Mr. Yusufzai is not simply a 9 am to 5 pm school teacher in a made for TV movie that sees him as a simple man driven to take up a cause... rather he was already an active member of the AIRRA agenda.

    To understand who these people are, we have to grasp the history of the seculo-religious struggle in Northern Pakistan. It is a separate but somewhat connected entity to the explosive struggles between nativism versus imposed communism seen in Afghanistan. In some ways, it was a softer and contained of that latter conflict with two groups pitted against each other watching the war in Afghanistan and "betting on their own horses."

    So now, I want to spring board off of that sentiment used by Tor Khan regarding an ambitious father.

    Where the Narrative Begins:

    The story of the Gul Makai journal entries is in and of itself a fascinating story.

    The name Abdul Hai Kakar should be imprinted in your mind.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...valley/263590/

    He is also a member of Farhat Taj's AIRRA:
    http://www.airra.org/minutesofmeeting/meeting3.htm

    His name is under the participants list right next to Ziauddin's name. This coterie worships local marxist leaders and eulogizes them regularly:
    http://www.airra.org/minutesofmeetin...ShahSabir.html

    In that second link he is a participant in that particular meeting.

    These meeting minutes above are from 2008 and the Gul Makkari dairies appear in 2009. In the Atlantic, Mr. Kakar pretty much summarizes Mr. Yusufzai's ambitions and their genesis:

    "I talked to him because [I was hoping] he could find a schoolgirl for me. He tried for days and called me back and said nobody was ready to talk because everyone was afraid of the Taliban. But he hesitantly told [me] that if I agreed, then his daughter could work with me. Then I contacted her and started the diary."

    So TWO POINTS. The diary's inception was not Malala's but that of the AIRRA members. Ziauddin Yusufzai claimed that he scoured his school looking for other girls who would want this BBC affiliate role and found none.. nadda...zero (yet interestingly enough the BBC found quite a few willing to talk after the shooting so I wonder how hard Mr. Yusufzai tried to find someone else to serve this rather lucrative and prestigious role).

    He then admits that he wrote the diary in this DIRECT QUOTE:

    "What was your (kakar's) role in the writing process and publication of her diary?


    I talked to her and told her, "You can tell me on [the] telephone what you did that day, what you thought, what were your feelings, and what you saw." So [I told her] just share with me and I will take notes and then I will write it down. So, from my wife's telephone number I would call [Malala] because her [my wife's] phone was safe. So we used to talk to each other for 30 minutes each night for five or seven days [in a row]. Then after that I would send it to BBC English and Urdu to publish."

    http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...valley/263590/

    So an 11 year old (that is how old she was at the time) was put as the front for this diary written pretty much in collusion by Ziauddin Yusufzai and his AIRRA buddy Mr. Kakar.

    What are their beliefs?

    In many cultures, they say, the son becomes the father and inherits him. So what is in the public domain that offers us a window into the thought processes of the AIRRA members? Well we have confirmed above Miss Andersen's membership in socialist-marxist groups and we see rather clearly that this tight knit little group has a great deal of respect for dead marxists.

    We have a quote early on of their sentiments taught to the young children by the father and/or manufactured by Mr. kakar:
    "In one posting on her BBC blog, she wrote, "My younger brother does not like going to school. He cries while going to school and is jubilant coming back home ... He said that whenever he saw someone he got scared that he might be kidnapped. My brother often prays 'O God bring peace to Swat and if not then bring either the US or China here.'"

    But what of the real evidence regarding the affinities taught to Malala by her father??? Well we have some now thanks to the communists themselves.



    This image was initially posted on a Communist website that admitted she was deemed a member of their group:
    http://www.marxist.com/imt-sympathiser-shot-in-swat.htm

    Here is a copy of it:
    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/10/501143.html

    I want to make a point that this is NOT an image depicting the supposedly benign socialism that does not make comments on religion and certain aspects of governance. That image on that podium is of two horrible human beings: Lenin and Trotsky. These two men were responsible for the horrendous murder and overturning of the true Soviet revolution of the people and of hijacking it. Lenin and Trotsky had clear disdain for all forms of religion. This is REAL COMMUNISM as espoused by KhaD and Najib. These are the aspirations of those remnants that backed Najib as their horse, hence the complexity of this story.

    Here is another one with good ole daddy standing in:


    Note that the broken link for these images traces back to the marxist website itself:
    http://www.marxist.com/images/storie..._Yousufzai.JPG

    Not any ISI affiliated, not any American, and not any manufactured website.

    And now, thanks to Julian Assange and Wikileaks, we can reconcile this information with the Red Cell Memo:

    http://mirror.wikileaks.info/leak/cia-afghanistan.pdf

    The memorandum laments how Europeans (and by extension likely other member nations) are well ahead of their governments and clearly understand that the Afghan War and welfare handouts that get eaten up by Karzai cronies are not at all paramount to European national security and effective governance:

    From the memo:

    Only a fraction (0.1-1.3 percent) of French and German respondents identified “Afghanistan” as the most urgent issue facing their nation in an open-ended question, according to the same polling. These publics ranked “stabilizing Afghanistan” as among the lowest priorities for US and European leaders, according to polls by the German Marshall Fund (GMF) over the past two years. According to INR polling in the fall of 2009, the view that the Afghanistan mission is a waste of resources and “not our problem” was cited as the most common reason for opposing ISAF by German respondents and was the second most common reason by French respondents. But the “not our problem” sentiment also suggests that, so for, sending troops to Afghanistan is not yet on most voters’
    radar." According to INR polling in the fall of 2009, French women are 8 percentage points less likely to support the mission than are men, and German women are 22 percentage points less likely to support the war than are men. Media events that feature testimonials by Afghan women would probably be most effective if broadcast on programs that have large and disproportionately female audiences. (C//NF)"

    The Bad News

    An innocent child was used in a strategem as a sacrificial lamb. These AIRRA sods were even willing to put out the name of the son in one of the Gul Makkai entries as wanting an US and/or Chinese invasion of Swat, endangering his life as well.

    This girl had aspirations of wanting to be a physician. Instead, as Tor Khan noted in that thread, her father had higher hopes of her being the next Benazir. Is that not sordid? Wanting your daughter to follow in the footsteps of one of the Earth's most fabulously corrupt politicians in history?

    The Questions

    I think PF members are asking the right ones. They are generally centered on why this personage was chosen for this media attention ala the Red Cell Memo. The answer lies in the information provided above. Why should the millions of Afghans who blog or write of such issues not have as much attention? They actually write their own blogs and probably offer the truth on the ground in the exact balanced way as opposed to the Kakar-Ziauddin filtered way.

    What were her academic credentials and accomplishments? Thats a fair question. Simply talking about going to school versus going to school and being the top of your class as a female are two entirely different matters. There are numerous females in villages and cities dotting the Afghan and KP countryside who are beating out boys and other colleagues from a vast array of ethnic groups who deal with home turmoil and the war. I would think that their voice matters and their input would be as valuable.

    The Good News

    There are members of the general public wisening up to this controversy and how, in the manner of Kite Runner, they are being played with emotionally.

    Here is a page where Soldat freaks out
    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012...fathers-abuse/

    Scott Creighton piece a narrative together (parts of which I dont fully agree with)... and Soldat just about whigs out through the computer at this guy:

    "Soldat Amir, on January 14, 2013 at 11:41 am said: You are one sick person, I come from Pakhtunkhwa,and seen the destruction of girls schools by militants, even the leader of the TTP issued to have her killed, he admit it, clearly infront of media, its a shame that westeners living in warm homes would write such jibberish about my hero. Shame on you."

    The Lessons:

    Discerning minds should always question the narrative and try to find evidence regarding it one way or another and then use the data to make an informed decision.

    The current military industrial complex has manufactured the movie by a farsiwaan named Siddik Barmak called Osama that makes Pashtuns look like molesters worthy of being taken to task with war.

    The Kite Runner famously castigated Pashtuns as oppressors.

    And AIRRA and the MIC certainly used the Gul Makkai diaries to perpetuate misery and putting a child in harm's way to "get their message out" through subterfuge and intrigue. It has powered the sustained occupation of FATA and Swat and also perpetuated the drone war which is now fast and catching up with Afghans across the border as well:


    As the draw done occurs, drones are replacing soldiers (and I am sure AIRRA and Taj Andersen are thrilled).

    The currency exchange

    3 million pounds is the worth of a child's life.
    Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 03-28-2013, 11:08 PM.
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

  • #2
    Barakzai, am I wrong for assuming that when I first read the article I felt that Pashtuns have been bought again? What about the other girls that were shot with her? What about the thousands of girls who have been murked? I too, noticed the 'become a politician figure' as if that's any better of a profession. I confess that milking the issue might rake in Benjamin Franklins, but use that $ to do some effective, build a school, build a medical school, thousands of children die monthly due to lack of health care. Instead . . .
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

    Comment


    • #3
      I am proud to know you. I expected disdain and a barrage of illogic from others with emotional rejoinders. Your thought process is exactly what I meant to impart.. Truly engineering logic at work in that mind of yours. And yes I agree with you regarding resources. How anyone can hold a Pakistani politician especially the super corrupt in high regard is mind boggling... And to want to be one is intellectual murder of ones own mind!

      Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
      Barakzai, am I wrong for assuming that when I first read the article I felt that Pashtuns have been bought again? What about the other girls that were shot with her? What about the thousands of girls who have been murked? I too, noticed the 'become a politician figure' as if that's any better of a profession. I confess that milking the issue might rake in Benjamin Franklins, but use that $ to do some effective, build a school, build a medical school, thousands of children die monthlyduale to lack of health care. Instead . . .
      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

      Comment


      • #4
        Also don't worry they will generate some fake charity to funnell the $$$ into to save face
        Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
        Barakzai, am I wrong for assuming that when I first read the article I felt that Pashtuns have been bought again? What about the other girls that were shot with her? What about the thousands of girls who have been murked? I too, noticed the 'become a politician figure' as if that's any better of a profession. I confess that milking the issue might rake in Benjamin Franklins, but use that $ to do some effective, build a school, build a medical school, thousands of children die monthly due to lack of health care. Instead . . .
        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

        Comment


        • #5
          very interesting.

          the dad always seemed like a ****bag, like some weirdo obsessed mid western dad forcing his son to play football to live vicariously through him.

          the commie connection is disgusting and its just sad to see this poor girl being used the way she is. hopefully she realizes what is happening to her and snaps out of it before its too late.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

          Comment


          • #6
            Fascinating analysis, Dr. Barakzai. The hypocrisy and cunning of secularists never ceases to disappoint me.
            "Do not waste water even if you were at a running stream."-Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

            Comment


            • #7
              New York Times documentary based on Malala Yousafzai, a teen age activist ... - YouTube[/URL]

              her father was sitting on the paki army laps, during the crises, the way that poor girl was used which lead to tragic attack , luckily she survived.

              but the funny thing the other girls are used. just listen to this video and see, who is feeding the words into the mouth of this panjabi girl's.




              hard to understand why this interview was published?

              Comment


              • #8
                'Learning From Malala': Gordon Brown & Ziauddin Yousafzai in conversation - YouTube[/URL]

                Comment


                • #9
                  Didn't her father and her family flee to the UK and he became part of the UN or something? I don't quite remember but I remember reading this somewhere. So much for providing education and all that talk, now I bet they're going to turn into a normal westernized brown family living in the west -_-.
                  Yama Pukhtoon da Pukhtano sara zam.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Now Barakzai with his sodomized Akhwani mentality is coming up with that propaganda ---Yes, Malala gave out a speech at a Marksi funstion, that doesn't mean she is a Marksist. I know her family and father indirectly though and I know he stood up of to Taleban pressure at worst time and criticized Pakistan Army as well ---- And suffered as a consequence ---

                    Now instead of criticizing Taleban who pushed this girl into that situation he is coming with the typical venomous Islmo-fascist progpaganda although he himself here has disclosed proudly his father is an employ of US army.

                    Instead of targeting others , give up your filthy hypocritical existence in US and like a noble human being go and die for your convictions yet you are pulsating your filthy tummy with "infidel" money yet are pouring scorn at others when others do it---


                    Like a crow he eats **** by living in America da darul harb in his fanatic bigot thinking and then shakes his beak in disgust.

                    All Akhwanis need few days in Guatmo.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      That was the best series of innuendos you could muster against the air tight case that is reference laden???? Are you having your Bill Clinton moment here with this retarded meltdown??? "I did not have #%%^%#} with that woman" -William Jefferson Clinton.

                      Take apart the article piece by piece and then we might take you seriously.

                      You're just annoyed that this cast some sunlight onto ikhwan equivalent atheists... And sunlight is a great disinfectant for you virulent parasitic bacteria.


                      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                      Now Barakzai with his sodomized Akhwani mentality is coming up with that propaganda ---Yes, Malala gave out a speech at a Marksi funstion, that doesn't mean she is a Marksist. I know her family and father indirectly though and I know he stood up of to Taleban pressure at worst time and criticized Pakistan Army as well ---- And suffered as a consequence ---

                      Now instead of criticizing Taleban who pushed this girl into that situation he is coming with the typical venomous Islmo-fascist progpaganda although he himself here has disclosed proudly his father is an employ of US army.

                      Instead of targeting others , give up your filthy hypocritical existence in US and like a noble human being go and die for your convictions yet you are pulsating your filthy tummy with "infidel" money yet are pouring scorn at others when others do it---


                      Like a crow he eats **** by living in America da darul harb in his fanatic bigot thinking and then shakes his beak in disgust.

                      All Akhwanis need few days in Guatmo.
                      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        By the way ... He goes down in history as a great scam artist... Selling Abdul hai's creative fiction for 3 million pounds! Does Abdul hai get his own cut???


                        Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                        Now Barakzai with his sodomized Akhwani mentality is coming up with that propaganda ---Yes, Malala gave out a speech at a Marksi funstion, that doesn't mean she is a Marksist. I know her family and father indirectly though and I know he stood up of to Taleban pressure at worst time and criticized Pakistan Army as well ---- And suffered as a consequence ---

                        Now instead of criticizing Taleban who pushed this girl into that situation he is coming with the typical venomous Islmo-fascist progpaganda although he himself here has disclosed proudly his father is an employ of US army.

                        Instead of targeting others , give up your filthy hypocritical existence in US and like a noble human being go and die for your convictions yet you are pulsating your filthy tummy with "infidel" money yet are pouring scorn at others when others do it---


                        Like a crow he eats **** by living in America da darul harb in his fanatic bigot thinking and then shakes his beak in disgust.

                        All Akhwanis need few days in Guatmo.
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          They dont care about those hundreds of poor children killed in drone attacks and in afganistan but this girl was provided a special helicopter by pak army and chief of army staff himself met her and instructed the doctors for special medical care then a royal ambulance plane was provided for her by UAE anf ex PM of england met her and many others.
                          That poor girl has been and is being used by her secular father who first was a propaganda machine for pak army and now enjoying the previliges of international so called human rights NGOs.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            What a coincidence that I personally know Mr Ziauddin and Malala for the last 15 years. I have seen Malala as a student of KG and onwards. Whatever I will share here will be based on my first hand experience with the family. I recently saw Ziauddin in London and had a whole day conversation with him. We are in regular contact by email and some times by phone. I will request him that he himself or his representative and even Malala may respond to this thread.

                            Ziauddin is a true Pashtun nationalist Pakistani leader, scholar and politician. He loves Pashtuns and Pashtunwali. He is not an atheist and believes in the faith of Islam. Yes he is totally against the Islam of Taliban. He or Malala are not communists as such and participates in all educational and social or political activities of whatever ideology or school of thought. I have attended with him many conferences together. His being active in politics or education or his contacts with the army or government of his own country have nothing to be criticized.

                            He is a firebrand enthralling speaker and a great educationist. He is also teacher of his own daughter Malala and being her teacher he has full rights of her career counselling and I am not sure whether he advised her to be a politician not a doctor or not but if he has done so, nothing bad in counselling a student and a daughter.

                            I know Malala to be a genius. She is a precocious child, brilliant, highly talented and God gifted. This is totally false that she has been pushed by her father or some body else in whatever she is doing or whatever happened to her. I always find her to be very much involved in the social, educational and political work. No one can force some one to this degree of involvement.
                            How they got this much attention has a background. Ziauddin has a very active past and whatever happened to him cannot be logically compared to what happened to other girls or other persons. He is an active leader of the Pashtuns of Swat and Pashtunkhwah and has close links with the ANP and other authorities.

                            This is natural that he and his family will get special attention. Also if some one helped Malala in her diary has nothing bad.These are all very petty issues. Whatever is important is her cause and the way she got global attention. No doubt she will be a great Pashtun leader and the memories of great Afghan Malala will be once again revived.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                              What a coincidence that I personally know Mr Ziauddin and Malala for the last 15 years. I have seen Malala as a student of KG and onwards. Whatever I will share here will be based on my first hand experience with the family. I recently saw Ziauddin in London and had a whole day conversation with him. We are in regular contact by email and some times by phone. I will request him that he himself or his representative and even Malala may respond to this thread.

                              Ziauddin is a true Pashtun nationalist Pakistani leader, scholar and politician. He loves Pashtuns and Pashtunwali. He is not an atheist and believes in the faith of Islam. Yes he is totally against the Islam of Taliban. He or Malala are not communists as such and participates in all educational and social or political activities of whatever ideology or school of thought. I have attended with him many conferences together. His being active in politics or education or his contacts with the army or government of his own country have nothing to be criticized.

                              He is a firebrand enthralling speaker and a great educationist. He is also teacher of his own daughter Malala and being her teacher he has full rights of her career counselling and I am not sure whether he advised her to be a politician not a doctor or not but if he has done so, nothing bad in counselling a student and a daughter.

                              I know Malala to be a genius. She is a precocious child, brilliant, highly talented and God gifted. This is totally false that she has been pushed by her father or some body else in whatever she is doing or whatever happened to her. I always find her to be very much involved in the social, educational and political work. No one can force some one to this degree of involvement.
                              How they got this much attention has a background. Ziauddin has a very active past and whatever happened to him cannot be logically compared to what happened to other girls or other persons. He is an active leader of the Pashtuns of Swat and Pashtunkhwah and has close links with the ANP and other authorities.

                              This is natural that he and his family will get special attention. Also if some one helped Malala in her diary has nothing bad.These are all very petty issues. Whatever is important is her cause and the way she got global attention. No doubt she will be a great Pashtun leader and the memories of great Afghan Malala will be once again revived.
                              all these interview with the other girls who were injured with malala seems to full of lies and no consistency in their words.
                              hard to say who is fooling who? just simply listen to the 2:10
                              swat report shazia friend of malala come back form hospital by niaz ahmad khan - YouTube[/URL]

                              how many time these girls have change their words?

                              I ma glad pashtun are getting attention especially in education.
                              how her father criticised the Army? wasnt he the one who took the kids on the street in support of paki army? putting their lives in danger.
                              Last edited by afghan; 04-10-2013, 08:48 PM.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X