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  • #16
    Musa ur an idiot
    How is this supposed to work? U must not be an afghan
    All those ****heads that want to do this are usually from other countries

    We just need to learn to embrace all out people and live in peace
    When *******s say they are better then someone then this **** happens

    This guy just needs to chill out

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    • #17
      Originally posted by asad71 View Post
      History has a way of repeating itself. The more likely scenario emerging in a couple of decades will be for Pakistan / Punjab to invite the Afghans yet once again to cross the Hindukush (meaning Kill Hindus), and descend upon the Indo-Gangetic plain. The current ill treatment of the Muslims in Hindustan will see another Ahmed Shah Baba coming forward to pitch his tents on the plains of Panipath.
      oh please, stop living in the past. I am no fan of India by any means, but they are the 4th strongest military in the world with nuclear weapons, how do you expect them to be defeated? Even in the past Muslims despite conquering India couldn't really erase their culture or religion, that's why most of India still remained Hindu. Also while muslims are indeed being treated ill in many places in India, it is nothing compared to what hindus have to face in places like Pakistan or Bangladesh on a daily basis, try to look at both sides of the story for once and stopyour Mullahgardi which spreads nothing but hatred

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
        I am not comfortable with that scenario and although history repeats, it is also something to learn from.

        Whilst the idea of a modern charismatic Afghan who is able to unite us is ideal, he may or may not necessarily be from a military background and nor might he have his designs on conquering 'Al Hind'.

        Indian Muslims are a big enough group to manage their own affairs and hardly need external intervention as you appear to be suggesting. The majority of them remain loyal to their country. As for ill-treatment of Muslims, you don't have to step outside Afghanistan, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia to find examples of Muslims being ill-treated. In short we can start by leaving the Hindus right out of this and begin with concentrating on what we do to each other.

        The damage done by the Partition of India, is felt, not surprisingly in Afghanistan itself and amongst the Pashtuns in Pakistan. You think Pakistan's interference/stoking of militancy was for our benefit? Absolutely not. This was for Pakistan's own grand designs at countering India's influence. We, the Pashtuns, were made the cannon fodder in the process.

        If misplaced egos of the Muslims of Pakistan, Bangladesh or any other other country lead them wanting to pitch their tents at Panipath, I would rather that on this occasion the Pashtuns focus on something that is more productive to their own affairs by refusing to go along.
        I agree unfortunately the religious muslims of south asia are delusional about the history in south asia, if they only read how bloody it was and how it was mostly muslims killing muslims even in those days, than they will now what kind of a lie they are being taught. The hatred of hindus and others for no reason is totally unjustifiable and shameful

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        • #19
          The map looks all wrong, Hazaristan (lol) is too big for only 9% of the Afghan population.

          Punjabistan has parts of Pakhtunkhwa included in it. Uzbekistan's tajik terretories should join tajikistan i.e south uzbekistan.

          I agree with the idea in theory but the map needs redrawing to reflect the reality.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
            When these people are divided they can be better crushed.
            But we muslim shall unite as we were when we were fighting with Salahudin al Ayoubi,when we were fighting mischief on this earth.


            Afghans should think about invading the Al Hind (Pak-India).....:-)
            Since when do you own India or pakistan? why should afghans invade India or Pakistan? I mean western areas of pakistan fine at least there is some legitimacy there, but defiantly not the Indic areas. Do you really think there is a ummah? it all comes down to ethnicity, culture, language etc... at the end of the day. Muslims were never a united people, their history is the most bloody killing each other on the basis of ethnic nationalism, just read history
            Last edited by Karachi; 12-31-2012, 02:07 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Karachi View Post
              Since when do you own India or pakistan? why should afghans invade India or Pakistan? I mean western areas of pakistan fine at least there is some legitimacy there, but defiantly not the Indic areas. Do you really think there is a ummah? it all comes down to ethnicity, culture, language etc... at the end of the day. Muslims were never a united people, their history is the most bloody killing each other on the basis of ethnic nationalism, just read history
              We don't need to kill each other---we need to accept each other first and then move towards a fusion voluntarily and peacefully-
              Last edited by Toramana; 12-31-2012, 02:38 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SiiNii View Post
                Ok - we were taught they were nomadic Tajiks.

                Those borders leave 'Pathanistan' with zero natural gas or oil, if I'm not mistaken.
                "Pathanistan" will still have sizable quantities of natural gas reserves (in Karak, Hangu, Kohat, etc.) and some oil reserves not to mention immense potential for hydroelectric power generation. Moreover, we will be a linchpin to connect China, Central Asia, Middle East, and South Asia.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                  We don't need to kill each other---we need to accept each other first and then move towards a fusion voluntarily and peacefully-
                  I agree, but only education and open mindedness will make that happen, currently we are no where near there

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                    I agree, but only education and open mindedness will make that happen, currently we are no where near there
                    Yes this are the first good step, but you must not forget the europeans were killing each other not so long ago and now they are united, we can also learn form other peopel and how they have dealt whith rebuilding and educating themselfs.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                      Yes this are the first good step, but you must not forget the europeans were killing each other not so long ago and now they are united, we can also learn form other peopel and how they have dealt whith rebuilding and educating themselfs.
                      As long as fanatics (Ikhwanis/Wahabis/Salafis) are there this dream would not come true---The first thing is, how to put this jinni in the bottle-

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Killzai View Post
                        who are ikhwanis and what they do believe?

                        ive heard this name before
                        he means muslims
                        its a code word

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                        • #27
                          no it ikhwan means some one who tells you that you are a kafir and munafiq and what so ever if you dont follow his orders or dont agree with him ,so in general he legitimize his claim of power by deen .

                          more often most of the claims has nothing to do with religion let alone are legitimit .

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                          • #28
                            Toramana, dear my sig is dedicated to you :-)
                            High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                            • #29
                              Men will always create war. Just look at our world leaders. Most are men and they left this world in a bloody mess.

                              The map Musa has posted is nothing but a fantasy. which country would willingly give away*an area close to the harbour or filled with natural resources?
                              For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone.
                              ~Audrey Hepburn

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                              • #30
                                Combine them all together to form Ethniclashistan..

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