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  • Will Afghanistan ever have its own Khomeini?

    I mean a guy who everyone would follow regardless of ethnicity, who even the secularists respect. Even if i don't agree with khomeinis shia ideology, i can't help but be impressed by the respect and attention that he commanded.

    Ayatollah Khomeini Funeral - YouTube

    khomeini's first speech - YouTube

    Imam Khomeini advising Iraq - Eng Sub - YouTube
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

  • #2
    The respect he garnered was based on false promises, this isn't so much respect but him being a politician.
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #3
      I must say shias are much more united and organized then sunnis

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      • #4
        ^ That is true. Whenever there is an earthquake or other problem
        in Iran, always the Shia forces have been right there giving relief.

        Compare with the response in America to that dreadful "Hurricane Katrina" - clearly a judgment
        by God. It was pathetic.

        Whereas always the Iranian Islamic groups work
        quietly and effectively to address difficult problems.

        They had the Jihad-i-Sazendegi after the Iran-Iraq War,
        Reconstruction Brigades which really accomplished alot.

        As for Ayatollah Khomeini himself, as the years pass,
        my opinion of his acumen and steely will power to fight back
        against the force of - well let's say in shorthand - the New WOrld Order/
        Bilderbergers, etc -
        and WIN freedom from manipulation by these infamous groups
        for his country for still 30 years going on 40 --
        only improves !
        No one else in the whole world has achieved this.

        More evidence emerges all the time that Putin, who once
        in awhile barks a little against wrong US actions,
        is just another of these who are being controlled.
        HE never challenges the mythical event with
        NO airplanes either !
        He never said a word to dispute that "America killed
        _____ ___ ______".
        Surely leaders like Vladimir Vladimirovich know better.
        But maybe not, too.
        They are players on the same team as the Western leaders.

        ONLY Khomeini and now Khamanei and Ahmadinejad are really
        independent.
        They cleverly hold off aggression, but still keep their dignity
        by making bold and truthful statements.

        Why are the rest of the countries complete doormats, in comparison?

        I don't count China because really who knows the truth about those
        leaders.

        To sum up, there is a good reason to study some of Khomeini's writings
        so as to hear his own voice.
        Not the heavily twisted interpretation projected by ALL American history books
        and media outlets to the last "alternative" news source !

        So though Afghanistan doesn't have the same style of leadership
        system - the Vilayet -i-Faqih invented by Khomeini - where people
        unite around the words of the spiritual leaders of the country rather
        than base secular politicians [it IS a good idea in MY opinion!] =
        this model COULD BE worked on to become adapted for
        Afghanistan with a Sunni leader at the helm.
        Otherwise, chaos and tragedy could take hold later.
        God Willing, everything will go smoothly.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
          ^ That is true. Whenever there is an earthquake or other problem
          in Iran, always the Shia forces have been right there giving relief.

          Compare with the response in America to that dreadful "Hurricane Katrina" - clearly a judgment
          by God. It was pathetic.

          Whereas always the Iranian Islamic groups work
          quietly and effectively to address difficult problems.

          They had the Jihad-i-Sazendegi after the Iran-Iraq War,
          Reconstruction Brigades which really accomplished alot.

          As for Ayatollah Khomeini himself, as the years pass,
          my opinion of his acumen and steely will power to fight back
          against the force of - well let's say in shorthand - the New WOrld Order/
          Bilderbergers, etc -
          and WIN freedom from manipulation by these infamous groups
          for his country for still 30 years going on 40 --
          only improves !
          No one else in the whole world has achieved this.

          More evidence emerges all the time that Putin, who once
          in awhile barks a little against wrong US actions,
          is just another of these who are being controlled.
          HE never challenges the mythical event with
          NO airplanes either !
          He never said a word to dispute that "America killed
          _____ ___ ______".
          Surely leaders like Vladimir Vladimirovich know better.
          But maybe not, too.
          They are players on the same team as the Western leaders.

          ONLY Khomeini and now Khamanei and Ahmadinejad are really
          independent.
          They cleverly hold off aggression, but still keep their dignity
          by making bold and truthful statements.

          Why are the rest of the countries complete doormats, in comparison?

          I don't count China because really who knows the truth about those
          leaders.

          To sum up, there is a good reason to study some of Khomeini's writings
          so as to hear his own voice.
          Not the heavily twisted interpretation projected by ALL American history books
          and media outlets to the last "alternative" news source !

          So though Afghanistan doesn't have the same style of leadership
          system - the Vilayet -i-Faqih invented by Khomeini - where people
          unite around the words of the spiritual leaders of the country rather
          than base secular politicians [it IS a good idea in MY opinion!] =
          this model COULD BE worked on to become adapted for
          Afghanistan with a Sunni leader at the helm.
          Otherwise, chaos and tragedy could take hold later.
          God Willing, everything will go smoothly.

          The very fundamental to all teachings of Ayatullah Ruhullah Khomeini was uniting the Shias with Sunnis. That is the reason why the Western Christian Civilization (WCC) feared him so much.

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          • #6
            I am also impressed with his leadership and the way he organised and galvanized the masses into action towards on ideology and one direction. The Shias all over the world are organized and well united, we Sunnis are not unfortunately and that is the reason we are facing defeats after defeats though the resources and number of Sunnis is 5 times more than the Shias.
            We Muslims lack true leadership. But at the other hand the Western powers have realized one fact after world war II that any ideology or any leader that rise up against their ideology and system must be eliminated and this is what they have been doing especially with Muslims for the last 60 years.

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            • #7
              So Iran is all good now. :P

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jamaludeen View Post
                So Iran is all good now. :P
                Lol

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jamaludeen View Post
                  So Iran is all good now. :P
                  only for desperate people without role models.

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                  • #10
                    What is the real contribution of that filthy mullah apart from the establishment of an evil begotic theocracy that doesn't have any respect for civic rights of people?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                      What is the real contribution of that filthy mullah apart from the establishment of an evil begotic theocracy that doesn't have any respect for civic rights of people?
                      That filthy mullah has done alot better for his people than your filthy ANP for their people. For starters he has created a society where women are more educated than men.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        That filthy mullah has done alot better for his people than your filthy ANP for their people. For starters he has created a society where women are more educated than men.
                        Actually toramana does not like his anti americanism, the rest is fine.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jamaludeen View Post
                          So Iran is all good now. :P
                          Its not about being good or bad, its about the study of why this man had so much respect. You could learn something from anyone wheather you like him or not.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Friend View Post
                            Actually toramana does not like his anti americanism, the rest is fine.
                            Toramanas problem is that he is a racist. He beleives he is superior than all else which is the foundation of extremism. He rejects everything that comes from anyone who in his mind is inferior whether that person is right or wrong because someone in his mind that is inferior can never be right.

                            An example is when I and PF member RESISTANCE where condenming the blasphemy law of pakistan and he criticized us and later in another thread he criticized the blasphemy law and all of a sudden because it comes from his mouth it is supposed to be gold. Hypocrit.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              That filthy mullah has done alot better for his people than your filthy ANP for their people. For starters he has created a society where women are more educated than men.
                              Well, my pan-Islamist Akhwani fanatic friend, ANP never ever had the degree absolute power that your rabies bitten fanatic Gulbuddin and Mullah Omar had. Still the only thing your cave-minded spiritual grand-pas like Mullah Omar and Gulbuddin could give to ordinary folk was oppression and poverty.

                              I am not a follower of a ANP but I still find its peaceful ways to bring change in the lives of people far more effective than the savage ways of your ape-minded Mullah Omar. But living in West cannot change people if one intrinsically has some savage genes.

                              Last edited by Toramana; 10-09-2012, 01:09 PM.

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