Will Afghanistan ever have its own Khomeini?

[Friend]

Toramanas problem is that he is a racist. He beleives he is superior than all else which is the foundation of extremism. He rejects everything that comes from anyone who in his mind is inferior whether that person is right or wrong because someone in his mind that is inferior can never be right.

An example is when I and PF member RESISTANCE where condenming the blasphemy law of pakistan and he criticized us and later in another thread he criticized the blasphemy law and all of a sudden because it comes from his mouth it is supposed to be gold. Hypocrit.

Exactly, actually Toramana does not have problem with taliban only but anything and anyone does not match his ideology is bull**** according to him.
According to him, taliban are barbaric no matter how much peace they bring, khomeini was filthy no matter how much intelligent person he was and how nicely he organised the nation and gave them a direction.
His problem is not education or advancement or progress but he is obsessed with the word Muslim and Islam. He thinks it is only the Muslims that are the only responsible for all the problems of the world. He does not say a single word about the west and their anti human policies where they drop nuclear bombs on others, where they use cluster and daizy cutter bombs on others, where they kill Millions of people just in one go.

[Friend]

Well, my pan-Islamist Akhwani fanatic friend, ANP never ever had the degree absolute power that your rabies bitten fanatic Gulbuddin and Mullah Omar had. Still the only thing your cave-minded spiritual grand-pas like Mullah Omar and Gulbuddin could give to ordinary folk was oppression and poverty.

I am not a follower of a ANP but I still find its peaceful ways to bring change in the lives of people far more effective than the savage ways of your ape-minded Mullah Omar. But living in West cannot change people if one intrinsically has some savage genes.

Look look, now he left khomeini and start talking about Omar.

[Toramana]

Look look, now he left khomeini and start talking about Omar.

Stop it you filthy son of a bitch. And don't send me those nasty private messages. Even stray dogs will be better than you now that I have learnt about your disgusting ways who pretend to be an Islam love but tries to take advantage of innocent people even here on this board.

[Friend]

Stop it you filthy son of a bitch. And don't send me those nasty private messages. Even stray dogs will be better than you now that I have learnt about your disgusting ways who pretend to be an Islam love but tries to deceive innocent people.

This is your language mr. Toramana. This is the reason you type of people can't accommodate in our society. This type of language and mindset is intolerable to our people. You should change the way you think and speak. You should have control on your anger because, with the passage of time you are getting more intolerant and hyper. You should go to some madrassah and learn ethics there.
My parents have not taught me to use bad language for anyone even if the other speaks such alhamdulillah. Wish you best of luck

[Friend]

but tries to take advantage of innocent people even here on this board.

And what do you mean by this ? Can you please give some evidence regarding this claim or it is just bull**** coming out of your brain ?

[Toramana]

Generally speaking and not targeting any specific person, there can only be one type of language for people who are primarily evil and disgusting and who try to deceive innocent people in order to take advantage of them not withstanding their noble pretensions. Bluntness is not that bad as the venomous intentions and acts of crooks and criminals.

[Friend]

Truth is bitter generally for everyone and specifically for the hypocrites.

[khushal]

Toramana has intellectually "awed and shocked" us with his language and the fact he could not defend his original post on this thread about the filthy mullah. First look at yourself, and then decide if you can call others filthy. Open your mind and let knowledge enter.

[khushal]

Generally speaking and not targeting any specific person, there can only be one type of language for people who are primarily evil and disgusting and who try to deceive innocent people in order to take advantage of them not withstanding their noble pretensions. Bluntness is not that bad as the venomous intentions and acts of crooks and criminals.

Are you speaking about yourself?

[Toramana]

Are you speaking about yourself?

Na---but I am increasingly convinced anyone with Islamist or pan-Islamist pretensions or inclinations like yourself torn apart by pious urges and sensual pleasures the huris of jannah give the fantasy of can act like that alluded to in the post above.

[Shah-i-Kot]

Doesnt Afghanistan already have a Khomeini like figure for Sunni Muslims?

[Shah-i-Kot]

Toramana has intellectually "awed and shocked" us with his language and the fact he could not defend his original post on this thread about the filthy mullah. First look at yourself, and then decide if you can call others filthy. Open your mind and let knowledge enter.

Toramana is another perverted version of RTR/Scmitar.

[Friend]

Toramana has intellectually "awed and shocked" us with his language and the fact he could not defend his original post on this thread about the filthy mullah. First look at yourself, and then decide if you can call others filthy. Open your mind and let knowledge enter.

True, how can one justify his or her existence on pf as a dignified member ? With the passage of time some members are losing their dignity by using such dirty language and bringing elders in such filthy sentences which is totally against pashtunwal..

[abassinafghan]

the question is much more , does we need some one like kohmeni ?

you could also ask if we would need a ghadaffi , a saddam , a stalin , a hitler a mousollini , a ho chi min or fidel castro ,a tito or mao ???

if it comes to the point of leadership and governance , then yes we need a charismatic strong ,fearless , political educated figure who is upright and honest in his intentions as in his acts and smart enough not only to survive but to play the game , but all of those called persons had a special trait and that was their independence and their will to impose their vision and their will upon life and society.

unfourtently , in the last decade , we had no one like this instead we had ,people like ,karzai , hekmatyar ,ismael khan, rabani , massoud , mullah omar,amin ,karmal ,najib ,dependent (foreing agents ), only concernd about their own advantages , limited in their point of view , lacking visions , lacking will , no concepts of governance just in short , TANG NAZARA .


the current time is perfect for a saviour , the people are hungry , the difference between poor and rich is greater then it was during the time of our parents , the people and the nation is humiliated on a daily base , the country is robbed and plunderd ....

but there is a major problem , and that is the lack of education .

alot of people took adavantage of this also in the past , and used the simple and pure naivity of the people for their own agendas , and they still do it .

under the name of islamic brother hood , and islam , so many people are making their own business and looking for their own advantage that you ask yourself what does religion has got to do with politics and especially certain topics ..


but kohmeni , was also a cold blooded politician , after he took over power , he sent alot of people into jails , kicked them out or killed them .

people who could be future enemies or delinquents and a threat to his regime !!!!

he justified and legitimised his goverment by religion , and every one complaining about it or having a different point of view , would directly considerd against shia islam and its implementation .


but the point its kohmeni was selfsustainable , that means he was not interessted to be a direct servant for some body else .

that has got nothing to do with shiism or religion , but just love for ones country and the integrity to be your own man .

having patriosm and having ones countries interesst in his mind .



people here on the board a writing , that its good that our natural ressources are sold for a 20 % profit , because its better than nothing , and then you are asking your self whats wrong with us ???

[Catya Sher]

asad71's comment was very perspicacious.
Also Friend's first one

I am shocked at what has happened to this TORamana.
Since I have been here, he turned into a TORRENT of EVIL.
He NEVER NEVER swore swear like that !

Maybe some even more radical pro-Westerner has
appropriated his original username??!

As for me, I am taking out my picture of Khomeini and
dusting it off today.

I always recall his birthday [May 17] each year, though I dont pay
attention to the day he died for some reason.

A remarkable figure and one who deserves more attention from
serious students of politics and nation-building.

I liked the Shah, too, but I think it was God's Plan to have the Shah
modernize Iran, then bring them back to religion with Khomeini.