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  • #76
    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
    Although I agree with you but in a way it is good to let these guys run their mouths because they always say contradictory things; Just yesterday Khushal was saying that Paktiawal loved and adored the Taliban and embraced them; Even though Khostai quickly shut down such claims as did I. Now he's back tracking and saying Paktiawals are Hizbe Islami who can be paid off. The constant changing of stories is good because when collected and shown side to side a very powerful and damaging case can be made.
    I dont backtrack. Hezbi islami are active in paktya today. and the taliban according to the source I gave you stated that paktiawals were overwhelmingly pro taliban during their rule from 96-01. In fact the last remenents of taliban were in the shah e kot mountains in paktia where they had to send in thousands of NATO troops to disband them in 2002, first place in afghanistan where thousands of NATO troops were used.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
      what is with the salafi obsession with questioning other muslim's faith?



      1. preach islam
      2. support unislamic acts
      3. get called out on it
      4. call other muslims kaffirs

      Exactly,comrade is known for his islam in this forum......
      Some effects of drug abuse.
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
        claiming Arabic root words are pluralized like native Pashto words; you have no credibility after that.
        Revo, if it comes to Pashto he is right. You can say in Pashto fekruna and afkaar. Both versions are correct. Some arabic words are so assimilated that Arabic plural form is not used in Pashto, like in the word qaamos - in plural form you will say qaamosoona instead of qawaamis. The same with dars - you will say darsoona, not darus.
        دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابه

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          I heard from Hizbe Islami members from Aryub that quite a large faction of the tribe is with Hizbe Islami. Both on the Hekmatyars side aswell as the government side.

          Plus its not just Zurmatis, there are even Zadran tribesmen who are still active as members of Hizb. In north Paktia, and Azrakyan still support Hizb.

          Similarly in Logar, there are quite a few villages of Ahmadzi who support Hizb.

          Shalmawar, don't you really realize that your presence here, especially your posts like the one above support Afghanistan occupants? You want to show off how well informed you are but finally you are invaluable source of information.
          This forum is open even for not registered members so anyone can read, and they read, trust me.

          Good job watanpalunkay
          دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابه

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Yasmeenaah View Post
            Revo, if it comes to Pashto he is right. You can say in Pashto fekruna and afkaar. Both versions are correct. Some arabic words are so assimilated that Arabic plural form is not used in Pashto, like in the word qaamos - in plural form you will say qaamosoona instead of qawaamis. The same with dars - you will say darsoona, not darus.
            That's not what he's said in other posts. He's wrong.

            He's saying that words like "farq" are pluralized as "firqey" which is nonsense. They don't use the same type of pluralization as native Pashto words like "khezey" or "pashtaney". That is wrong. I never heard people say "afkar" in Pashto, but fikroona definitely. I think it also depends on whether the word is feminine or masculine whether or not it gets that declension. I agree with you on this but HE said the opposite of what you and I are saying.
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post

              I never heard people say "afkar" in Pashto, but fikroona definitely.
              Yes we do use "afkar" in Pashtu. It really depends on the subject matter and context. Example would be when want to say "general perception", you say it Pashtu "amoomi afkar" you don't say "amoomi fekrona". Although the second could also be right.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                Yes we do use "afkar" in Pashtu. It really depends on the subject matter and context. Example would be when want to say "general perception", you say it Pashtu "amoomi afkar" you don't say "amoomi fekrona". Although the second could also be right.
                ok that I can see but I mean in context of pluralization; here the word is used as a singular noun. in Arabic afkar is a plural noun.
                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                • #83
                  I heard afkaar from Pashtuns graduated from faculty of literature of Kabul univ. You can also find this form in Pashto textbooks written in German or Russian before 1978.
                  Most of Pashto language experts spent some time at the Kabul University so I think this form can be use by educated Pashtuns. Let's say it's "posh" Pashto.
                  دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابه

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                    That's not what he's said in other posts. He's wrong.

                    He's saying that words like "farq" are pluralized as "firqey" which is nonsense. They don't use the same type of pluralization as native Pashto words like "khezey" or "pashtaney". That is wrong. I never heard people say "afkar" in Pashto, but fikroona definitely. I think it also depends on whether the word is feminine or masculine whether or not it gets that declension. I agree with you on this but HE said the opposite of what you and I are saying.
                    Then I'm sorry for my mistake
                    دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابه

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Yasmeenaah View Post
                      I heard afkaar from Pashtuns graduated from faculty of literature of Kabul univ. You can also find this form in Pashto textbooks written in German or Russian before 1978.
                      Most of Pashto language experts spent some time at the Kabul University so I think this form can be use by educated Pashtuns. Let's say it's "posh" Pashto.
                      maybe but used as a plural?
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #86
                        I am impressed by Comrade Pashtun.

                        Unlike others of his kind, he can actually speak Pashto well.
                        Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                        Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                          maybe but used as a plural?
                          Yes, writting about afkaar I meant plural form
                          دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابه

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Yasmeenaah View Post
                            Yes, writting about afkaar I meant plural form
                            yeah that is new to me; I know that in dari they use Afkar, I never heard it in Pashto, learned something new today
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #89
                              You can find Arabic plural form in old Pashto texts.
                              دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابه

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Yasmeenaah View Post
                                You can find Arabic plural form in old Pashto texts.
                                like?
                                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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