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Khar-sawar (donkey-riderOriginally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostSaid a person who refers to Islam as "camelism".
Yes sure Toramana, you know what is Islam and who is a Muslim and who is not.
) Terroristani that is my style esp with those with whom I find my wavelength to be in phase---but you are the best manifestation of that concept as a follower of Wahbism.
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Originally posted by Toramana View PostKhar-sawar (donkey-rider
) Terroristani that is my style esp with those with whom I find my wavelength to be in phase---but you are the best manifestation of that concept as a follower of Wahbism.
when unable to say anything useful resort to name calling. This is a typical trait of you and your friend Mahmoud.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Is this why Hekmatyar travels through Zazi areas of Paktia freely in a colone of armed men in camouflage and green flags?Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View PostThe funny thing is we don't have any Hizbe Islami in Paktyaa province.
We just have local fighters,who the Americans name Haqqanis,but they are from all over the province of Paktyaa.
When was the last time you visited Paktia anyway?Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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You mean like the Taliban when they were going internationally to be wined and dined by International Consoritums?Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View PostThey are sponsered people,who fight for money and wealth.[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostIs this why Hekmatyar travels through Zazi areas of Paktia freely in a colone of armed men in camouflage and green flags?
When was the last time you visited Paktia anyway?
any proof of this? show your source?[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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My cousin came some weeks ago,i was some months before there.Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostIs this why Hekmatyar travels through Zazi areas of Paktia freely in a colone of armed men in camouflage and green flags?
When was the last time you visited Paktia anyway?
I am aware about the Zazi connection,but the presence declined in paktya province.
We had some in Zurmat district and in Zazi,but they were only a handful men.
Paktyawals are taking care of Hekmatyar and his men,because we can't trust him.High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.
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I heard from Hizbe Islami members from Aryub that quite a large faction of the tribe is with Hizbe Islami. Both on the Hekmatyars side aswell as the government side.Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View PostMy cousin came some weeks ago,i was some months before there.
I am aware about the Zazi connection,but the presence declined in paktya province.
We had some in Zurmat district and in Zazi,but they were only a handful men.
Paktyawals are taking care of Hekmatyar and his men,because we can't trust him.
Plus its not just Zurmatis, there are even Zadran tribesmen who are still active as members of Hizb. In north Paktia, and Azrakyan still support Hizb.
Similarly in Logar, there are quite a few villages of Ahmadzi who support Hizb.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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lol ...Shamless Khar, you'd be a gold mine to an intelligence agency if you were water boarded. ...I may have to make a few phone calls.[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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Go ahead.Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Postlol ...Shamless Khar, you'd be a gold mine to an intelligence agency if you were water boarded. ...I may have to make a few phone calls.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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you're probably not concerned because you're really an informant.
[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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there are alot of hezbi in paktia. hezbi are mostly opportunists that fight for the highest bidder. Hekmatyar would be with the government right now if the US invited him to bonn in 2001. But knowing his personality, he would want the highest or best seat.Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View PostThe funny thing is we don't have any Hizbe Islami in Paktyaa province.
We just have local fighters,who the Americans name Haqqanis,but they are from all over the province of Paktyaa.
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These are common Pashtuns revolting against Taleban because they think their right to education, roads, health, etc. and the security of their future generations is denied/undermined by the Taleban---So don't try to mitigate the negative image with propaganda...Thanks.Originally posted by khushal View Postthere are alot of hezbi in paktia. hezbi are mostly opportunists that fight for the highest bidder. Hekmatyar would be with the government right now if the US invited him to bonn in 2001. But knowing his personality, he would want the highest or best seat.
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Although I agree with you but in a way it is good to let these guys run their mouths because they always say contradictory things; Just yesterday Khushal was saying that Paktiawal loved and adored the Taliban and embraced them; Even though Khostai quickly shut down such claims as did I. Now he's back tracking and saying Paktiawals are Hizbe Islami who can be paid off. The constant changing of stories is good because when collected and shown side to side a very powerful and damaging case can be made.Originally posted by Toramana View PostThese are common Pashtuns revolting against Taleban because they think their right to education, roads, health, etc. and the security of their future generations is denied/undermined by the Taleban---So don't try to mitigate the negative image with propaganda...Thanks.
[QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]
2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.
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Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View PostI heard from Hizbe Islami members from Aryub that quite a large faction of the tribe is with Hizbe Islami. Both on the Hekmatyars side aswell as the government side.
Plus its not just Zurmatis, there are even Zadran tribesmen who are still active as members of Hizb. In north Paktia, and Azrakyan still support Hizb.
Similarly in Logar, there are quite a few villages of Ahmadzi who support Hizb.
I agree there are some Zadrans aswell,but most of his supporters were from tribes based in Zazai and Zurmat,and north of Paktya,Logar and Kapisa both have a presence of Hizbe Islam.People who once supported him from Paktya or were member in his clan left all to join the Islamic Emirate.
As i said,the locals do not trust him,he switchsides faster than the changing of the weather in Europe.
One thing is for him clear,whenever he turns his weapon toward the Islamic emirate or his men,he will end up as we have seen other Warlords.High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.
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