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    Al-Mahdi, Muhammad ibn Abdullah and A Caliphate That Follows the Guidance of the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam
    Al-Mahdi, Muhammad ibn Abdullah and A Caliphate That Follows the Guidance of the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam
    But, Some of Its Signs Have Already Come!
    A. Hijazi © 1995
    Hudhaifah bin Al-Yaman reported that the Messenger of Allah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam said,

    "Prophethood (meaning himself) will remain with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain, then Allah will raise it up wherever he wills to raise it up. Afterwards, there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood remaining with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, He will raise it up whenever He wills to raise it up. Afterwards, there will be a reign of violently oppressive [The reign of Muslim kings who are partially unjust] rule and it will remain with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, there will be a reign of tyrannical rule and it will remain for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, Allah will raise it up whenever He wills to raise it up. Then, there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood."

    Then Hudhaifah said, "The Prophet stopped speaking." [As-Silsilah As-Sahihah, vol. 1, no. 5]



    Al-Mahdi Muhammad bin Abdullah

    All those who are gifted with sound comprehension know that the Mahdi who the Shiites are waiting for, does not and did not exist. The Muslim nation has faced numerous hardships and calamities because of this mystical belief that the Shiites carry and propagate regarding this Mahdi.

    In the Shiite mythology, believing in the Imams is a cornerstone of their faith. However such mythology is similar to Greek and Persian mythology, as well as the beliefs of the other nations of Al-Jahiliyyah.

    The Sunnis believe that Al-Mahdi will be an ordinary man, born to an ordinary women raised by ordinary men and living an ordinary life with the people of his time. He will not live in caves, as the Shiites believe. They are waiting for their Mahdi to appear from an alleged cave, where they claim he has been in hiding for over ten centuries.

    In reality, Al-Mahdi will be an Imam and a Caliph, among other Caliphs who rule Muslims with justice. However, what differentiates Al-Mahdi from other Caliphs is that he will meet Jesus son of Mary sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam.

    Also, Jesus, the Prophet of Allah, will pray behind Al-Mahdi. Allah will give Al-Mahdi the ability to righteously rule the Muslim nation in the span of a night. He will fill the earth with justice, as it was filled with injustice. He will lead the Muslim nation to the second conquering of Constantinople and possibly Rome.

    A Caliphate That Follows the Guidance of the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam

    The Prophet Muhammad sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam mentioned that just before the end of this world, the Muslim nation will be ruled by a Caliphate that will follow the guidance sent with the Messenger of Allah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam.

    Hudhaifah bin Al-Yaman reported that the Messenger of Allah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam said,

    "Prophethood (meaning himself) will remain with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain, then Allah will raise it up wherever he wills to raise it up. Afterwards, there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood remaining with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, He will raise it up whenever He wills to raise it up. Afterwards, there will be a reign of violently oppressive [The reign of Muslim kings who are partially unjust] rule and it will remain with you for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, there will be a reign of tyrannical rule and it will remain for as long as Allah wills it to remain. Then, Allah will raise it up whenever He wills to raise it up. Then, there will be a Caliphate that follows the guidance of Prophethood."

    Then Hudhaifah said, "The Prophet stopped speaking." [As-Silsilah As-Sahihah, vol. 1, no. 5]

    The reason behind mentioning this Hadith here is to state that Al-Mahdi will live in the last period of rightly guided Caliphs that the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam mentioned himself sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam.

    In this Hadith, the Messenger of Allah divided the history of the Muslim nation into the following stages:

    1. The reign of the Prophet Muhammad

    2. A Caliphate that rules according to the guidance revealed to the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam This period is called the reign of the rightly guided Caliphs, starting with Abu Bakr, then Umar, then Uthman and ending with the murder of Ali bin Abi Talib, may Allah be pleased withthem all. Some scholars included the short reign of Al-Hasan bin Ali, the grandson of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam These are the thirty years which the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam stated comprised the reign of the rightly guided Caliphs [The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam said? "The Caliphate will remain in my nation after me for thirty years. Then, it will be a monarchy after that." Ahmad, Tirmidhi and others, Sahih Al-Jami` ' As-Saghir no. 3341].

    3. The reign of unjust rule. This reign contains some injustice to a varying degree between one king and another. This period started after Al-Hasan bin Ali and includes the Umayyad, Abbasid, Mamluks and until the fall of the Ottoman State in the twentieth century.

    This period includes all states that ruled in the Muslim World during those centuries. However, we exclude the reign of those rulers whose rule was similar to the rule of the rightly guided Caliphs, such as the reign of Abdullah bin Az-Zubayr and Umar bin Abdul-Aziz. These two are considered among the just Caliphs from among the tribe of Quraish who ruled or will rule the Muslim nation.

    4. The reign of the tyrannical rule. This period started in the end of the Ottoman state and continues. We ask Allah that He saves us from the evils of this period and that we witness its end soon.

    This reign includes all the regimes that ruled the Muslim World, whether imperial, party oriented, governments controlled by the disbelievers, like those after World War I, populist or republic, which all sought to deprive Allah from His right as the Only Legislator in all matters of life and religion.

    When the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam mentioned the periods that this nation will experience, he categorized them according to the type of government, whether unjust, or that which follows the guidance of the Prophet, or autocratic and tyrannical, as we experience today.

    5. The return of a Caliphate that rules following the guidance of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam This period requires the Muslims to be prepared and strive for its imminent coming, by spreading the knowledge of the Book and the Sunnah and the way of our righteous ancestors, As-Salaf As-Salih. This is because nothing can resurrect this nation except that which resurrected its ancestors. Until this final period comes, the religion will become a stranger, the same way it started in Makkah, a stranger to its masters and slaves, the powerful and the weak, its women, and its children.

    Those who will strive to establish this righteous period are those ghurabaa strangers as the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam called them, who will carry this religion with knowledge, sound comprehension and determination. They will willingly sacrifice their well-being, face hardships, and persecution, with patience and steadfastness. They will follow the advice of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam when he said,

    "Therefore, hold fast to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided Caliphs, hold it between your front teeth! And beware of innovations (in the religion), for every innovation is a bid'ah, and every bid'ah is a deviation, and every deviation is in the Fire." [Sahih Al-Jami ' As-Saghir, no. 2549]

    The ghurabaa are the ones who, by the will of Allah, will correct that which people have altered and changed of the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam after his departure from this earthly life. They will fight in the sake of Allah and dominate those who oppose them. They will be unrelenting even in the face of those who abandon or defy them, until Allah brings about His Decree (the Hour), while they are steadfast on this path.

    We ask Allah, the Praised and Ever-High One, that He grants us steadfastness on the path of His Messenger sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam and the path taken by the companions and those who followed theirlead until the Day of Judgment.

    source: http://www.sunnipath.com/library/Art...R00000002.aspx

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    • #47
      Here read it...and refresh your rusted memory about islam....


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      • #48
        Originally posted by haviZsultan View Post
        I don't know what is wrong with the Afghans. Just denial... total refusal to

        Okay fine believe what you want. The only time you will realize what Lar Pashtuns actually want will be when you send your forces here to "unite us" and are sent running back across the border the same way the Afghans who attacked Dir were today.



        We love Khushal Khan Khattak but people don't understand this in its proper context. Its like the jews picking out phrases from the Quran and saying haha look your Quran is evil and u r bloodthirsty... same way you pulled out something that does not even apply now.

        If you look at the poem you will notice Khushal praising Pashtun raiders. Only a person out of his mind in the current age and time would like to build a reputation of Pashtuns as raiders and looters instead of peaceful citizens with thousands of years of culture especially when the west and farsiwan do so much propaganda against them. Please at least look at the time and age!

        The poem just holds sentimental value and came at a time the Mughals imposed vast taxes on the Pashtun areas they controlled. In 1650 (during Khushal Khans time) Mughals controlled Pakhtunkhwa. They treated the areas as a colony and Pashtuns grew frustrated with their rule. As a result Khushal Khan Baba said those words.



        They don't apply in their literal sense now. And the qoute clearly means ONLY Pashtuns are supposed to be Afghans. Afghanistan has Tajiks Hazara and Uzbek today who they also call Afghan.

        If Khushal Khan Baba actually knew how the bar Pashtuns had thrown away by the lar Pashtuns just to protect their lands from invasion from the British he would have taken his sword out and slain Abdur Rehman Khan.

        And in the 21st century their needs to be serious division between the words Afghan and Pashtun. If all Afghans were Pashtons then there wouldn't be any Tajiks, Hazara or Uzbek in Afghanistan. And don't tell me you are a traitor by saying they are not one. Initially when I came to the site I was also saying they were one but how can they be one when it has been drilled into the Afghans mind that a Pashtun cannot be a Pakistani at all.

        Afghans are fueling this division by not respecting us, our country and our choice to be Pakistani.
        "The poem just holds sentimental value and came at a time the Mughals imposed vast taxes on the Pashtun areas they controlled. In 1650 (during Khushal Khans time) Mughals controlled Pakhtunkhwa. They treated the areas as a colony and Pashtuns grew frustrated with their rule. As a result Khushal Khan Baba said those words."

        *scratches head* mughals controlled pukhtoonkhwa in 1650,
        mughal mughal mugahl mughal pakistan pakistan panjabi panjabi's controlled pukhtoonkhwa since 1947, oh **** i see the similarities
        "Remember this revolution is born out of Love For My People not hatred for others"-- Immortal Technique

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        • #49
          Mughals came from afghanistan...why didnt you guys controlled them in the first place? We ve fought against them.Why did u guys helped them by sending sher shah suri etc...?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by pashtun_rise View Post
            The map you have given is not of ancient times...The whole world scholars are mentioning mehdi's associated signs and here you are denying this fact? Ok tell me where is jesus pbuh revealed when he ll lead prayers of imam mehdi's army? Now dont claim as ahmadiya sect that jesus pbuh was mirza ghulam...


            well Khurasan didn't exist in Ancient Times anyways. Back in Ancient Times it with the Parthian Empire.

            Looks like you don't know as much as you claim to know


            The World's scholars are human and humans can be wrong. No The Jesus revealed prayers of Imam Mahdi's army is not from Sahih Hadith but from lesser Hadith collections.
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by pashtun_rise View Post
              Mughals came from afghanistan...why didnt you guys controlled them in the first place? We ve fought against them.Why did u guys helped them by sending sher shah suri etc...?


              Afghanistan didn't exist then
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                well Khurasan didn't exist in Ancient Times anyways. Back in Ancient Times it with the Parthian Empire.

                Looks like you don't know as much as you claim to know


                The World's scholars are human and humans can be wrong. No The Jesus revealed prayers of Imam Mahdi's army is not from Sahih Hadith but from lesser Hadith collections.
                Give me source man...source!!! N that too from authentic ahadeeths...i mean not with tafseer of wahhabi version.Abbasi khilafa had only name of al_mehdi...not the virues....Allah choses mehdi not common people.Allah ll declair mehdi not abbasids...and that too in makkah...with his army...at the hand of abdals from yemen,najba from egypt and asaeb from iraq...where as at that time arabs were not in love with turks .They were in war with them...a cold war.


                Infact...this is the subject...this is the reason i am here....N now its you who is denying ahadeeths from ibn e khateer (these ahadeeths are mutawatir)....U deny that too? Man better refresh YOUR islamic knowledge.M going to sleep see you tomorrow inshALLAH.Till try your best to deny me with your false islamic beliefs.The whole islamic world is crying for mehdi...and here you are sleeping.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                  Afghanistan didn't exist then

                  Prophecy is meant for a specific land...not some specific country.Dont mix things deliberately.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by pashtun_rise View Post
                    Give me source man...source!!! N that too from authentic ahadeeths...i mean not with tafseer of wahhabi version.Abbasi khilafa had only name of al_mehdi...not the virues....Allah choses mehdi not common people.Allah ll declair mehdi not abbasids...and that too in makkah...with his army...at the hand of abdals from yemen,najba from egypt and asaeb from iraq...where as at that time arabs were not in love with turks .They were in war with them...a cold war.


                    Infact...this is the subject...this is the reason i am here....N now its you who is denying ahadeeths from ibn e khateer (these ahadeeths are mutawatir)....U deny that too? Man better refresh YOUR islamic knowledge.M going to sleep see you tomorrow inshALLAH.Till try your best to deny me with your false islamic beliefs.The whole islamic world is crying for mehdi...and here you are sleeping.

                    Actually Abbasiyah Khilafah had many of the virtues; Al Mahdi was known for his virtue


                    and the hadith you showed me in your link; Most of them come from Lesser Books not Sahih Sitta. It seems the author just picked hadiths he can use to make his argument and ignored the Sahih Sitta
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #55
                      Banned.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Pukhtoon007 View Post
                        "The poem just holds sentimental value and came at a time the Mughals imposed vast taxes on the Pashtun areas they controlled. In 1650 (during Khushal Khans time) Mughals controlled Pakhtunkhwa. They treated the areas as a colony and Pashtuns grew frustrated with their rule. As a result Khushal Khan Baba said those words."

                        *scratches head* mughals controlled pukhtoonkhwa in 1650,
                        mughal mughal mugahl mughal pakistan pakistan panjabi panjabi's controlled pukhtoonkhwa since 1947, oh **** i see the similarities
                        The similarity of the Mughals is with the bar Pashtuns. They imposed taxes on the south. Do you know the southern Pashtuns were paying as much as 4 times the tax the northern Pashtun had to pay. See the similarity? Just to save themselves they betrayed the lar Pashtuns and handed them over to the British. So we weren't doing deals with the British, we were fighting them. The bar Pashtuns were doing deals with the British then labelled us British slaves after selling us to the British against our will.

                        Its easy to shout foul after you threw your land away. Pashtuns have now immersed themselves in the fabric of Pakistan taking part in every institution. 3 people in now or never were Pashtuns. Pashtuns fought for Pakistani independence and Quaid E Azam helped us gain freedom. Only since the war on terror things have become far worse for the Pashtun of Pakhtunkhwa otherwise even the Punjabis and Urdu speakers were at his feet. Even now this day is not far because a Pashtun, Imran Khan will win the elections.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by shadowgoverner
                          we dont need help from india,they should help their own starving peopel and help get those 30million prostitutes have a normal life.


                          When we have a space program; then you can say we don't need help from India
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                            When we have a space program; then you can say we don't need help from India
                            The only constant is change.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                              Abdul Ahad Mohmand going on a Soviet Space craft is NOT an Afghan Space progam
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                Abdul Ahad Mohmand going on a Soviet Space craft is NOT an Afghan Space progam
                                I never claimed that. ^^

                                But your point was correct.

                                These guys seem to be as obsessed with India as their ISI-masters.

                                Unbelievably dumb.

                                I don´t understand why one would take Nek Mohammads pic.....a guy who sipped tea with Pakistani generals on a daily basis.

                                Pashtunforums is being overrun by Madrassa-educated would-be suicide bombers.
                                The only constant is change.

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