To havisultan and Pakistani members co

[afghanis_hehe]

Why is he a baba e qaam? Because in textbooks people were taught this? What makes Pakistan a nation? Two boundaries drawn by Britain? Was there a pakistani nation prior to 1947? What are its parameters?
Yes Afghanistan has different ethnic groups/nations, no one denies this. Afghanistan came out of a kingdom, a pashtun dynasty, one that unified a pashtun nation and later amalgamated other groups into its state. There are other states with similar historical progress. No one denies this.

When did this mass migration of Pashtunkhwa people take place? Indians mostly tried to move to Afghanistan during the Khilafah movement and the government at the time had no interest in entertaining them. However, many Pashtuns moved across the durand line and established themselves. Many Pashtunkhwa people were given IDs and education facilities during Zahir Shah's and Daud's time.
These relatives of yours, which side of the family were they?

P.S. This khilafah movement also suffered in the former Ottoman empire, the Turks and Arabs themselves discarded this idea. Sure Britain and the other European powers carved up the region, but the Turks and Arabs helped finish it off. They were just as uninterested as the then govt of Afghanistan. Not using it as a cover but an FYI.

Why is he a baba e qaam? Because in textbooks people were taught this? What makes Pakistan a nation? Two boundaries drawn by Britain? Was there a pakistani nation prior to 1947? What are its parameters?
he is babe qoum because he united the muslims , he stood for the muslims of british india and worked hard and didnt even care abt his health and created a country in the name of islam by fighting against gandhi and britishers. he gave us this land on which we speak freely , on which we eat freely, this land is cool for us except for some peopel like luffy who live , eat there but speak for abdul kalam.
paksitan is a nation on the basis of brotherhood and religion and due to the struggle which all these ethinic groups in pakistan carried out simultaneously. all these ethnic groups had to face the ssame harsh difficulties under british rule but they kept their hands intact and finally they were succesfull in making pakistan.
its not the boundary drawn by britishers . its the boundary that was iour fate. kashmir wanted to to join pakistan but it wasnt its fate so india captured kashmir. same was with junagadh, and some oher states. this boundary was the boundary which was a gift to the muslims by allah for struggling togethar and dying for each other, there was no such thng as hatred on the basis of ethnicities in that time in this region. there wree bigger problems than these to be worrid about
well paksitan name is just 60 years old but it was also though by sirsyed ahmad khan who said that muslims have seperate identity and they should have seprate homeland. pakistan is the abbreviation of all the provinces of pakistan. even sheikh ahmad sirhindi and shah wali ullah gave the idea of seperate muslim state. i hope that this would ansewer ur questions to some extent

[Michin Khel]

Yaar, look at the posts of abassinaafghan. How would we Pashtuns like it if someone came around and insulted Rehman Baba, Khushal Khan Khattak and others.

Jinnah is a national leader of all Pakistanis regardless of race or religion. Why Afghans don't respect us?

What you guys are doing with this guy just because he has divergent views from the majority is very wrong. Debate with him instead of abusing him in every post.

Yar jinnah baba ko goli maar. Abassinafghan is pashtun, he would never insult bacha khan and ahmad shah baba like your afghan-hehe did. Report post of abasin if it is offending you but i am not going to defend punjabis like afghan-hehe. He is insulting all pashtuns which is not acceptable to me.

[afghanis_hehe]

Yes may baghi hun, may baghi hun...all ghairatmand balochs are also gaddar for punjabis like you...

well how many baloch have u met who are baghi . the ones on the internet who are sitting in uk like u . haha wat a represenattion.

[کیش]

Pakistani Nationalist and Israeli Zionist are one from the same daddy--Great Britain.

[afghanis_hehe]

Yar jinnah baba ko goli maar. Abassinafghan is pashtun, he would never insult bacha khan and ahmad shah baba like your afghan-hehe did. Report post of abasin if it is offending you but i am not going to defend punjabis like afghan-hehe. He is insulting all pashtuns which is not acceptable to me.

haan jinaah ko goli mar haha . yar baat suno mere ap bacha khan ka aik b supporter lay ao kp se main maan jaun . un log ko mat lana jo afghan refugee hain . afghanistan se mat lana. aik kam karo is gaddar bachay khan ka aik supporter lay ao kp se .look at the name that u have given to hime frontier gandhi hahaha . he wanted to join u guys to india do u know that. dont defend punjabis we dont want our shield to be sitting in front of computer miles away uk usa or canada. i m not insulting i lov pashtuns as my cousins are one and i love my mother . but i love punjabis too as myself i m. u abuse us and then u demand good replier from us
jis insan ko jinnah ki izat karny nai ate wo pakistani nai . apnay bachay khan ko kahna tha k tmy azadi dila daita . us ko to gandhi b abcahnay nai aya

[randolph85]

i understand the idea of pakistan, but history has shown that this experiment of combining various societies into one state ruled by dictators and/or democratically elected leaders but held together by brutal intelligence and defense forces has failed.

why is it that this state supposedly based on islam has so many ethnic groups that want to break away from this state? even in afghanistan there are no movements by minorities to break away from afghanistan and no one will even dare say such a thing in public, a state that was not even created on the basis of islam like pakistan was?

pakistan, like israel, is obviously not going anywhere so lets not pretend that it will. but it would serve the people well and especially the nationalists, to ponder the horrible state that the country is in. the poor economy, the inequality between provinces, the government behind the government, and the ethnic tensions. once you get your house in order, you can talk all the **** you want about afghans and afghanistan.

most importantly stop talking about pakistan like its the best thing since fkin sliced bread. boasting about nukes while being on welfare by the chinese, americans, and saudis is like a bum wearing a rolex.

if you try to "steal" the identity of pashtuns and pretend like its not tied to the title "afghan" or the nation of afghanistan itself, you are just fooling yourselves.

[randolph85]

Yaar, look at the posts of abassinaafghan. How would we Pashtuns like it if someone came around and insulted Rehman Baba, Khushal Khan Khattak and others.

Jinnah is a national leader of all Pakistanis regardless of race or religion. Why Afghans don't respect us?

What you guys are doing with this guy just because he has divergent views from the majority is very wrong. Debate with him instead of abusing him in every post.

jinnah wasn't even the leader of his family.

[Michin Khel]

well how many baloch have u met who are baghi . the ones on the internet who are sitting in uk like u . haha wat a represenattion.

Ja bachoo balochistan may chal kar dika, baloch tumara kia haal karte hain. Halat itne kharab hain k tumare punjabi settlers ko target kia ja raha he.
You punjabis always live in denial, even when east pakistan was getting separated.

[haviZsultan]

Ja bachoo balochistan may chal kar dika, baloch tumara kia haal karte hain. Halat itne kharab hain k tumare punjabi settlers ko target kia ja raha he.
You punjabis always live in denial, even when east pakistan was getting separated.

You are being racist Luffy, he never presented himself as a Punjabi.

[Michin Khel]

haan jinaah ko goli mar haha . yar baat suno mere ap bacha khan ka aik b supporter lay ao kp se main maan jaun . un log ko mat lana jo afghan refugee hain . afghanistan se mat lana. aik kam karo is gaddar bachay khan ka aik supporter lay ao kp se .look at the name that u have given to hime frontier gandhi hahaha . he wanted to join u guys to india do u know that. dont defend punjabis we dont want our shield to be sitting in front of computer miles away uk usa or canada. i m not insulting i lov pashtuns as my cousins are one and i love my mother . but i love punjabis too as myself i m. u abuse us and then u demand good replier from us
jis insan ko jinnah ki izat karny nai ate wo pakistani nai . apnay bachay khan ko kahna tha k tmy azadi dila daita . us ko to gandhi b abcahnay nai aya

KP may ANP ki hakomat he aur tum muje challenge kar rahe ho k KP se bacha khan ka koi supporter lauon? Kuch tu guzara kar.
Aur meri zindagi may hazoor nabi e kareem p.b.u.h is barri koi shakhsiat koi nahi, muje jinnah jaise shakhs ki poja ki zarorat nai.

[R3SISTANC3]

yar baat suno mere ap bacha khan ka aik b supporter lay ao kp se main maan jaun . un log ko mat lana jo afghan refugee hain . afghanistan se mat lana.

So the ANP, the party largely elected and ruling KP, lead by the family and friends of Bacha Khan, are all from Afghanistan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awami_National_Party

[کیش]

These dudes are trolling,

I have alot of half Pashtun/half Hindkwo cousins and they always bust Pakistani's balls when they are with Pakistani's, and bust Afghan balls when they are with Afghans.

[randolph85]

even the billboards in pakistan hate you guys.

[R3SISTANC3]

My favorite Pakistani leader

[afghanis_hehe]

KP may ANP ki hakomat he aur tum muje challenge kar rahe ho k KP se bacha khan ka koi supporter lauon? Kuch tu guzara kar.
Aur meri zindagi may hazoor nabi e kareem p.b.u.h is barri koi shakhsiat koi nahi, muje jinnah jaise shakhs ki poja ki zarorat nai.

anp pakistan ko support kartay tmara chacha bacha khan ko ni . wo apnay ap ko pakistani kahty aur dsri ethnic groups ko gali ni daitay. acha bhai nabi kareem ko follow kartay aur muslims main farq kartay yeh koi new deen nikala hay . waah yar . bachay ko sab gaddar kahtay ..bs kar day tujhe b pata hay . mujhe batany ki zarurat nai agar us ki nasal main say aya hay anp to kya hua . us tym kya hua tha jab referendum hua tha agar bacha k supporter thay to bacha k sath kyn ni gaya kp . jinnah se kyn mil gayay tha hahah