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  • #46
    Not the way but the results count,(comradepashtun).

    you know 5000 alone in iraq,4000 in Afghanistan aprox and more than 30 000 seriously injuried.These are counts of the americans ...the fact is different.
    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      @badmash kheil,
      the arab videos you post are propaganda videos of AQ which are designed to increase recruitment. Even the CIA admits that there are less than 100 AQ people present in the whole country.
      http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/presid...ory?id=9227861

      The Uzbek story can not be corraborated by independent sources and is likely untrue since it would be impossible to move that many fighters in Afghanistan without being bombed to smithereenes. Have you not forgotten 8000 taliban fighters who were trapped in the north during 2001 and had no choice but to surrender because they could not move around and that was during the time when NATO was not present on the ground but only above the ground.

      The pakistani fighters you mention are FATA pashtuns who consider themselves afghan. FATA pashtuns have always come to the aid and fought along side their brothers east of the durand during the soviet war and during the british wars. Afghanistan who does not accept the durand line can't call them pakistani.

      The taliban main support from pakistan is not financial nor weaponery but sanctuary. Afghanistan is littered with weapons and the ANA is more than willing to sell it to their future foe. The communists used to say "the capitalist is so greedy that he would sell the rope that he himself would be hanged with. to the executioner"
      There might be 100 AQ fighters but AQ is not the only group under which foreigners fight. There are many other groups who fight under different names maybe because of ideological differences with AQ or other reasons. Names are not important. There are many pakistani groups such as the Ansar, sipah sahaba and many more but they are still punjabi and other pakistani ethnicities. Many of the videos show at least 25 fighters in one small cell and I doubt all of them add up to only 100.

      The uzbeks didn't all come in one go. There could have come in small numbers over the years. Who the hell would be foolish enough to all come together and be the target of US/NATO? Even Soldat can testify the number of uzbek fighters in Waziristan. He is a native of that land.

      Majority of the fighters in that video are clearly non pashtuns as you can see from their faces. Only the one who was interviewed in the beggining and a few more look pashtun. The rest diffinetly don't look pashtuns as the guy leading the prayer and also the one interviewed later clearly show them being non pashtun. But It doesn't matter, so by the same token can Tajiks from Tajikistan come to aid NA or uzbeks from uzbekistan to fight for Dostum. Isn't that a double standard?

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      • #48
        All the foreigners have concentrated their fight on Pakistani army,which you posted above.And they can be counted by fingers,not more than 100 and they are from all over the world not just arabs.

        The Islamic emirate of Afghanistan has an uzbak brigade which is fighting in the north and in the east and some in tajikistan,remember the glorious raids of 2010 on Tajik army.

        http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...nk_imu_cla.php
        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
          There might be 100 AQ fighters but AQ is not the only group under which foreigners fight. There are many other groups who fight under different names maybe because of ideological differences with AQ or other reasons. Names are not important. There are many pakistani groups such as the Ansar, sipah sahaba and many more but they are still punjabi and other pakistani ethnicities. Many of the videos show at least 25 fighters in one small cell and I doubt all of them add up to only 100.
          The videos you submitted were arab and one turk which would be affiliated with AQ. you didnt submit any panjabi videos. so you are guilty of a another red herring because you can not win the argument.

          The uzbeks didn't all come in one go. There could have come in small numbers over the years. Who the hell would be foolish enough to all come together and be the target of US/NATO? Even Soldat can testify the number of uzbek fighters in Waziristan. He is a native of that land.
          10,000 seems way to exaggerated. the CIA estimates that there are about 20,000-25,000 insurgents in Afghanistan, so what your saying is that 50% are uzbeks. It does not seem probable.

          Majority of the fighters in that video are clearly non pashtuns as you can see from their faces. Only the one who was interviewed in the beggining and a few more look pashtun. The rest diffinetly don't look pashtuns as the guy leading the prayer and also the one interviewed later clearly show them being non pashtun. But It doesn't matter, so by the same token can Tajiks from Tajikistan come to aid NA or uzbeks from uzbekistan to fight for Dostum. Isn't that a double standard?
          Uzbekistan and Tajikistan have their own insurgencies and political problems to worry about. The governmnets of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan did aid the NA during the 90's all the way to the American invasion during 2001 with giving them men, weapons and money. Those governments already learned their lesson during the Soviet war, they dont want to have anything to do with Afghanistan.

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