Split Discussion: Arabs

[tor_khan]

meanwhile the rift between muslim sects continues, while you while away your time with this stupidity.

Not just sects ... but across people in general. I sometimes want to give up on people.

If I'm alive when they begin to colonise Mars, provided they don't send too many, I'll happily sign up to be a pioneer.

[al-arab]

Tor khan i observed in Qatar that they were giving different treatment to iranis, balochs and pashtuns. And some arabs had taken pashtun wives....but were not giving their women to pashtuns...on the other hand desis were clearly looked down upon....taking pashtun wives because they are fair skinned and treating pashtuns and iranis better desis means one thing....colourism and racism.
The aborigional qataris were negroid like omanis, the ruling altani family had saudi origin and were brown skinned....i can understand why they are obsessed with skin, through out history they have tried to beautify their race by taking irani and turk wives....

Yes, more lies. And you are the own Pakistani who cries about racims but you are an racist yourself. I pity individauls like you.

And what did you do in Arab countries if you don't like us? We don't want people like you in our countries. Stay in Pakistan. If you don't like us then travel to other countries. The world is open.

[tor_khan]

Tor khan i observed in Qatar that they were giving different treatment to iranis, balochs and pashtuns. And some arabs had taken pashtun wives....but were not giving their women to pashtuns...on the other hand desis were clearly looked down upon....taking pashtun wives because they are fair skinned and treating pashtuns and iranis better desis means one thing....colourism and racism.
The aborigional qataris were negroid like omanis, the ruling altani family had saudi origin and were brown skinned....i can understand why they are obsessed with skin, through out history they have tried to beautify their race by taking irani and turk wives....

You missed the point that I was making by going off on a tangent.

[Karachi]

Care to reply Faye other than one sentence answers like Karachi and Soldat happens to do?



Yes, his comments prove that.

Answer my question faye. Do you think that saying, like he did in this thread, that most Gulf Arabs are bad people is not to generalize and racism? Which world do you live in?

And yes, just like he told he never said anything bad about Pashtuns just to be caught empty handed after a brother posted an posts of his where he said that Pashtuns should be destroyed.

And answer me on this also:

He is the only user who has accused me of racism on this forum.

In contrast several people have commented on his Arabphobia.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

I am done with this thread, until brother thor-khan makes his reply.

Karachi:

Is this a joke? Shall I really find your qoutes? As you wish, unlike you I do not invent lies and I am able to prove that you lie unlike you when you make fantasy claims.

yes please do, i want you to find the exact qoute where I said this.

[al-arab]

True, these Pakistanis crying over Arabs lol. These Pakistanis in UK mistreat their workers in such bad way you can't imagine. These Pakistani employers are worst than the Arabs I bet.

No, brother, we Arabs are the worse. Just listen to well-known racists and anti-Arabs like Karachi and Luffy you have an inferior-complex towards Arabs.

And despite all this they have lived in Arab countries despite the fact that nobody forced them.

I am curious to see how welcoming they would be if thousands of Arab immigrants arived in their countries. Very curious.

[tor_khan]

You should also consider that a good number of Qataris and other Khaleejis are in fact of Iranian and Baloch origin which begins to explain the different shades.

... Also your Panjabi brethren in Pakistan are known to take Pashtun wives for exactly the reasons you say the Arabs take Pashtun wives ...

[emkhan]

No, brother, we Arabs are the worse. Just listen to well-known racists and anti-Arabs like Karachi and Luffy you have an inferior-complex towards Arabs.

And despite all this they have lived in Arab countries despite the fact that nobody forced them.

I am curious to see how welcoming they would be if thousands of Arab immigrants arived in their countries. Very curious.

No dear, I am no way against Arabs. I respect them because I know their contribution in building our country, their part in funding our religious institutions, feeding our poor people and most all, giving work to all those Millions of people who are feeding their children and educating their children by working there in Arab countries.
I love Arabs, I am ready to give blood to Arabs. What else you want.

[Michin Khel]

[QUOTE=al-arab;573540]

Great try to distract the debate from an well-known anti-Arab.

Is calling an Indian and Indian now racist? I think you need to read the contect where I wrote it.

So I could use the same logic and say that he is racist simply because he called me an Arab? Or maybe you are an racist because you call Pashtun people, Pashtun people? What a strange logic?

Everyone knows that mujahirs are Indian Muslims. You also know very well what the word mujahir means and that they are not indegenous to the territory of Pakistan. So why claim otherwise and pretend that it is not truth? He himself has said in this thread that he is an Muhajir and from New Delhi orginally. He has also said that he is not ashamed of his ancestry?

So what is the problem?

And I am not an Gulf Arab so your critic does not apply for me. Also you generalize like Karachi.

You call others racist but you generalize 40 million people.

Very clever Luffy. Very clever. You do not appear like an hypocrite at all. I will give you that.

The basic question is why questioned his indian origin out of nowhere. You know alarab i have also spend few years in libiya, libiyan arabs were best people that i have come across with no racism. I was surprised why an iraqi like you would defend rich arrogant gulf arabs but now you have stated that you are integrated into saudi society and have saudi wife which explains you and your behaviour. Perhaps you dont feel descrimination against desis because you have never experienced it. As a test interview various saudis about paki, indian and bengali expatriotes, you would recieve golden comments. Just try it

[al-arab]

No dear, I am no way against Arabs. I respect them because I know their contribution in building our country, their part in funding our religious institutions, feeding our poor people and most all, giving work to all those Millions of people who are feeding their children and educating their children by working there in Arab countries.
I love Arabs, I am ready to give blood to Arabs. What else you want.

I did not mean it. I was using sarcams. Of course there is nothing called a bad race or a race more bad than others despite some users here try to make Arabs such an case. We are all humans and there is no difference. We have the same instincts and Almighty Allah (swt) said that there should be no difference.

I will leave this discussion when I find one of many of Karachis racism quotes.

Brother, I appreaciate your kind words. As I have told several times, I know many very friendly Pashtuns. In fact last week I was invited to an wedding of a Pashtun friend and family we know.

[faye]

-QUOTE=tor_khan;573554]Not just sects ... but across people in general. I sometimes want to give up on people.

If I'm alive when they begin to colonise Mars, provided they don't send too many, I'll happily sign up to be a pioneer. [/QUOTE]
tor_ khan. the island, remember?you are not allowed to go to the moon, lol. we are counting on you.

[NokiaWnW]

No dear, I am no way against Arabs. I respect them because I know their contribution in building our country, their part in funding our religious institutions, feeding our poor people and most all, giving work to all those Millions of people who are feeding their children and educating their children by working there in Arab countries.
I love Arabs, I am ready to give blood to Arabs. What else you want.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????????? Arabs build up by war destroyed Waziristan or Afghanistan? Arabs did funded hospitals, schools, industry in Afg and Waziristan? Arabs....? Arabs...? Arabs....????? When, where and how??? All those money you claim beeing from Arabs, are money from ''evil West''! All fundings, all build hospitals, schools, industry etc are build by western money and western tax payers! Where is the Zakath of Arabs??? Arabs destroy countries but keep out of rebuilding and supporting Muslims ... where are their Zakaths? Where are their men support? Where are their foods and medicines? Where were they when Pakistan was flooded and 25mio were deplaced? Where were they in 2002, 2003, .... and today? I don´t see any Arab funding and support in Afghanistan for the civilians... except for terrorists to kill innocent people, mostly Pashtuns.

[Michin Khel]

You should also consider that a good number of Qataris and other Khaleejis are in fact of Iranian and Baloch origin which begins to explain the different shades.

... Also your Panjabi brethren in Pakistan are known to take Pashtun wives for exactly the reasons you say the Arabs take Pashtun wives ...

Yes 40% of qataris are of irani origin. There was another thing, some pashtun families were living in qatar for 3 or 4 decades, had adopted arabi langauge and dress (wannabe arabs) for qatari citizenship but were unable to get it. Which means there are grades of racism, iranis are recieved better than pashtuns.

[Karachi]

I did not mean it. I was using sarcams. Of course there is nothing called a bad race or a race more bad than others despite some users here try to make Arabs such an case. We are all humans and there is no difference. We have the same instincts and Almighty Allah (swt) said that there should be no difference.

I will leave this discussion when I find one of many of Karachis racism quotes.

Brother, I appreaciate your kind words. As I have told several times, I know many very friendly Pashtuns. In fact last week I was invited to an wedding of a Pashtun friend and family we know.

please do, i am waiting, I have never said any thing against pashtuns that you are claiming, you can even ask for MODS assistant in finding such quotes.

again it's very easy to lie.

[al-arab]

[QUOTE=Luffy;573565]

The basic question is why questioned his indian origin out of nowhere. You know alarab i have also spend few years in libiya, libiyan arabs were best people that i have come across with no racism. I was surprised why an iraqi like you would defend rich arrogant gulf arabs but now you have stated that you are integrated into saudi society and have saudi wife which explains you and your behaviour. Perhaps you dont feel descrimination against desis because you have never experienced it. As a test interview various saudis about paki, indian and bengali expatriotes, you would recieve golden comments. Just try it

Read the contect I wrote that in. You are trying to tell me that calling an Indian an Indian is racism? What is this for logic? I was referring to his quote where he defended Pakistan and said that Pakistan could be destroyed by Pakistan in a minute and that all Pashtuns should be destoryed. I found that funny when he himself is an mujahir (Indian Muslim).

Where you not the one who accused Arabs of killing Blacks in Libya?

First of all, I am not only Iraqi but also have Syrian and Saudi Arabian (Hijaz) ancestry (along with Circassian etc.). My wife is also not only Saudi Arabian but also Iraqi and Syrian.

Also Hijaz-Arabs are not Gulf Arabs.

I also don't defend Gulf Arabs other than trying to tell your and Karachi that most Gulf Arabs are not bad people.

Yes, and I have told you there are idiots in every race. I also imagine that Pashtuns, Indians or Bengalis would talk badly about Arabs as well (just look at you, karachi and this nokia thing) if there migrated millions of Arabs to Pakistan, India and Bengali.

[tor_khan]

-QUOTE=tor_khan;573554]Not just sects ... but across people in general. I sometimes want to give up on people.

If I'm alive when they begin to colonise Mars, provided they don't send too many, I'll happily sign up to be a pioneer.
tor_ khan. the island, remember?you are not allowed to go to the moon, lol. we are counting on you.

... Mars isn't happening for a while yet ... I'm still making the pitch for my island ... and Faye, you ARE in of course .