'Secret Pakistan' Exposed in BBC Documentary

[AFG21]

I saw yesterday this docu on TV. Most of the info was like known to olmost every Afghan. Only the brainwashed ones are stil thinking that taliban are some kind of holy wariors. They are just dum peopel who fight for Pakistan and abusing Islam.

[graveyardofempires]

I saw yesterday this docu on TV. Most of the info was like known to olmost every Afghan. Only the brainwashed ones are stil thinking that taliban are some kind of holy wariors. They are just dum peopel who fight for Pakistan and abusing Islam.

ive posted the whole documentary my brainwashed little friend.
go watch aqnd see hwo this documentary is self defeating.

why do you care about Islam?according to you Ahmad shah baba was also a terrorist fighting for pakistan?

[abassinafghan]

graveyard then tell me why were the taliban and still are so muh against the balchots around bugti ?

why were their saimansab in kabul in 96 who didnt speak single word of pashto why were they in khandahar ,killing people like mullah rabbani who had his own ideas ?

the sadaa mamat are you ,beliving , just because the americans are *******s , it makes "the "taliban arround mullah omar akhund moleakas .

besides your ttp, omar distanced himself openly from this groups and anounced it .

its a fact that the pakis are not interesset in a strong afghanistan , even not a occupied stable afghanistan by their masters ,which could one day lead to break down of their state.

omar is not a hero , remember when they put their nuclear dirt into our country were have been your omar ? or when they were robbing our culutral heritage .where have been your omar ?
when afghanistan was worldwide isolated , which have been intentionally done so by the pakis and their advise ?where have been your omar ?
to be a ruler means not just chew neswar, and talking like pailutsh from shkapr bazar derwasa .



you are just typicall internet troll talking about things which you dont understand .

the same idiot like those panjeri khar who thinks busse panjer is the next big pairombar .

but keep beliving your nonsence ....

[graveyardofempires]

graveyard then tell me why were the taliban and still are so muh against the balchots around bugti ?

Zema sada wrora you are just makign things up,taliban are Pashtuns resisting occupation of their lands just like our ancester did against changeez,angreez,rus,mughul,hindu,or little alex.

why were their saimansab in kabul in 96 who didnt speak single word of pashto why were they in khandahar ,killing people like mullah rabbani who had his own ideas ?

you aks me too many whys as if i am obliged to answer any of those,we are talking about them at present time fighting a foreign occuaption and not at time when they were in power,i might have my own opinion but opinion of the Afghan nation goes first.
No one knows who killed mullah rabani.

the sadaa mamat are you ,beliving , just because the americans are *******s , it makes "the "taliban arround mullah omar akhund moleakas .
i also have a different opinion to that of taliban but i respect the opinion of the Afghan nation and i respect the ones who are defending the Afghan independence and culture and who ar ein line with my ancesters.

besides your ttp, omar distanced himself openly from this groups and anounced it .

When and where did he distance himself?funny thing is since Pashtun resistance has close to zero media it is easy to make all types of propaganda against them,be it by a paki or a failed afghan government.

its a fact that the pakis are not interesset in a strong afghanistan , even not a occupied stable afghanistan by their masters ,which could one day lead to break down of their state.

its true that pakistan is not interested in strong Afghanistan thats why they are attacking TTp and pukhtunkhwa cuz those areas are due to be handed over to Afghanistan.
thats why they are supporting foreign invasion of Afghanistan letting them use pukhtunkhwa as supply route,thats why they are demonising pukhtane in the media,thats why they support drone attacks.

omar is not a hero , remember when they put their nuclear dirt into our country were have been your omar ? or when they were robbing our culutral heritage .where have been your omar ?
when afghanistan was worldwide isolated , which have been intentionally done so by the pakis and their advise ?where have been your omar ?
to be a ruler means not just chew neswar, and talking like pailutsh from shkapr bazar derwasa .

i dont knwo if omar chews naswar and i dont thinnk people chew naswar,i think it is just placed under the lip.If Omar is not a hero than Mirwais hotak isnt either,than Ahmad shah baba isnt either,than the ones fighting the british empire arent as well,or Khushal khan khattak or faqir of ipi.These individuals all have the same traits which are ,PAshtuns,against an empire,recognised by inhabitants.
Where exactly is the dumb place you are talking about?
See you are proving that pakistan is no good yet you are trying to connect a traditional pashtun resistance to this state.
where were you when pakistan was doing all those things?where were those others such as karzai?i think karzai was in training back than.


you are just typicall internet troll talking about things which you dont understand .

i understand much better and my opinion is mine and not created by someone else and injected into my brain,and my opinion is that of an average PAshtun and not some brainwashed fellow such as you who tak eanything as truth instead of challenging it.
have you seen war up close?
have you been through civil war?

the same idiot like those panjeri khar who thinks busse panjer is the next big pairombar .
Wow it seems you are becoming more and more aggresive cuz your opinion holds no water and far from facts.
i advise you to understand Afghans and their opinion instead of pushing your own biased onen as fact upon them.
but keep beliving your nonsence ....

If you call what Pashtuns in Afghanistan and pukhtunkhwa want as non sense than that non sense is ok than your biased view.

[abassinafghan]

how dare you compare mullah akhund with great leaders , and dont affiliate the people who fight, with the taliban arround mullah akhund .

strange its the same thing what nato does , they also claim if they kill civilians that it were taliban .



i ask you what did he accomplished under his rule ? in a political point of view , i ask you if you have lived under the taliban rule ?

but of course a 17 years old cyber ghazi knows everything keep on living in the internet

dont talkn about afghan or pashtun people , your not even born in afghanistan. i am sure you have an american birth certificate

[graveyardofempires]

how dare you compare mullah akhund with great leaders , and dont affiliate the people who fight, with the taliban arround mullah akhund .

strange its the same thing what nato does , they also claim if they kill civilians that it were taliban .



i ask you what did he accomplished under his rule ? in a political point of view , i ask you if you have lived under the taliban rule ?

but of course a 17 years old cyber ghazi knows everything keep on living in the internet

dont talkn about afghan or pashtun people , your not even born in afghanistan. i am sure you have an american birth certificate

see this is what im talking about,
who is Mullah Akhund?
its Mullah Omar Hotak
Taliban are armed civilians.
didnt live under taliban for very long time and i dont say their rule was examplery,for example they had no economic plan but than again they were facing export import ban from UN.But that was than and we are talking about now.the only countries doing business with them were bagladesh and pakistan.Thats why we have paki money still used in jalalbad and kandahar because pakis used this situation to ge tinfluence.

according to you Karzai can be compared to Ahmad shah abdali and mirwais Hotak.LOL


you are wrong on so many things on this single comment of yours.

im not 17
not from america
born in kabul

[sanman]

basically graveyardofempires pretends to be anti-Pakistan, but you can see that all the crap he says is pro-Pakistan. He's now claiming that Pakistan is not meddling in Afghanistan through Taliban -- so his position is extremely slanted in favour of Pakistan. [---EDITED---].

Here's Part 1 of the documentary on Youtube:

[Soldat_Amir]

Whats so propaganda about this? goes to show, some here havnt even been to Pakhtunkhwa or Afghanistan, and are just telling fibs and tales on this forum.

Its a well known fact, Pakistan is aiding the Taliban, this Graveyard thinks, Pakistan ISI is not aware or cant touch the Haqqanis,Mullah Nazeers,gul badahurs and co.

Buddy, Mullah Omar was educated in the binor masjid in Karachi, he then got his recruits from Darol ul Haqqania, your telling me, the these two ISI linked Madrassahs have no influence over the Taliban activities, over 70,000 or so Pakistani soldiers are in Waziristan alone, all over the tribal belt, and your telling me they have no leverage or influence over the Taliban, your telling me the ISI never knew Mullah Barader was in Karachi?

Your telling me the likes of Zainudeen and co, who control DI Khan and Tank have no hand of the ISI? ISI is running the Taliban and I think you need to start educating yourself on this!

Graveyard you need just accept the real facts that the Taliban is a stooge of the ISI from the very start, and continues to be, all this non sense about Taliban being Anti Pak? haha, Hakeemullah Is anti Pak govt, but not Anti Pak, most of the Wazir Taliban sip tea with Pak officers all over Wana,Miram Shah, Angoor Adda!

[Soldat_Amir]

Sanman roara. Graveyard keeps contradicting himself everytime. First he says Taliban is a Pashtun resistance but ignores its history. There are 100s of pictures of Hamid gul and co with his heros all over the internet. He then ignores the fact, that Taliban frm the start were never Anti-Pak, they even recongnised Pakistan and had a ambassador there, he also fails to mention, Pakistanis meddling in Afghanistan from the start, and why was Col iman and co allowed into Kandahar after Mansur Achakzai was killed off by them, what aobut Mullah Turabi, the Original talib, why did he accept truck loads of weapons from the ISI.

Plus can graveyard expalin to us the "Shakai Agreement with Nek Mohammad Wazir" why was a Punjabi 11th core commander hugging the founder of the TTP, who later stated, "Tribal Pashtuns are the atomic bomb of Pakistan"

Graveyard is a cover up, he never makes any sense with what he says, The Taliban are fighting for Arab glory for Al Qaida, whats their ideology?

[AFG21]

Why is mine comment delited -_-.
at Graveyard of s***** I just want to say that if you assosiate Islam white destroing schoosl and blowing up inocent peopel, you are not worthy of being called a human being. And don't compare those animals to Ahmad Sha Baba.

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[Soldat_Amir]

how dare you compare mullah akhund with great leaders , and dont affiliate the people who fight, with the taliban arround mullah akhund .

strange its the same thing what nato does , they also claim if they kill civilians that it were taliban .



i ask you what did he accomplished under his rule ? in a political point of view , i ask you if you have lived under the taliban rule ?

but of course a 17 years old cyber ghazi knows everything keep on living in the internet

dont talkn about afghan or pashtun people , your not even born in afghanistan. i am sure you have an american birth certificate

Hes born in Germany.

Mullah Omar was a student of Mullah Sandwich of Darol ul Haqqania. Mullah Omar wasnt even educated in Afghanistan, was a little student of Pakistani studies.

Hes a coward hiding in Pakistan in his ISI safe house just like his buddy Osama, who sent children to their deaths while he sipped on Coca Cola with his four wives.

When will Pashtuns realise the mess these people are putting us in. Najibullah was right all along, whatever he said, was true, and its sad, ISI got him killed due to the bigharatub and backwardness of our masses!

At times, i think, its a good thing to be honest, let the Pashtuns who want to be slaves of Punjabis go live in Pakistan, I am sure a good gate keepers job is waiting for them, spare Afghanistan the backwardness, we dont need it! ! !

[Soldat_Amir]

Why is mine comment delited -_-.
at Graveyard of s***** I just want to say that if you assosiate Islam white destroing schoosl and blowing up inocent peopel, you are not worthy of being called a human being. And don't compare those animals to Ahmad Sha Baba.

This is the thing, Ahmad Shah Baba would have never allowed Punjabi Kashmiri Militant groups to infest his land, Graveyardofempire has no clue whatsoever!

[graveyardofempires]

Ahmad Shah Abdali attacked Hindustan numerous time just to save the honour of muslims and he says all of his victories are thanks to Allah.

check mate.


Afg21 watch your filthy mouth,dont talk about Islam,we know it is people such as you who blow up schools,kill civilians to create basis for your support.

o really am i pro pakistani?LOL

iam not a seculer such as jinah or sanman afg21 or this fake maseeed,so you guys have everything in common with jinah the paki.

@Admin

dear admin how come these guys can personally attack me and this insaneman calling me bitch of pakistan,is this allowd?

if it is than i must also open my mouth and tell these people what 2+2 is.

[graveyardofempires]

@fake maseed

Ahmad shah abdali was a proud muslim Afghan like the rest of muslim Afghans.
i think you are totally clueless about history,Ahmad shah abdali did have all types of people in his empire.

[graveyardofempires]

amir sada gula
i think you dont know how media works and you love to prove to us that lies are truth but they are not.

everyone knows who Mullah Omar is and how he came to power.

i guess you were born in britain and red some external sources and now claim to be expert on Afghanistan and pukhtunkhwa.

i on the other hand have lived most of my life in Afghanistan and know pukhtunkhwa as well,as my ancesters are from bajaur.