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  • 'Secret Pakistan' Exposed in BBC Documentary

    Pakistan's state collaboration with Taliban and AlQaeda is exposed in the BBC documentary "Secret Pakistan"

    BBC - BBC Two Programmes - Secret Pakistan

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    Taliban commanders say Pakistan intelligence helps them | Reuters

    Other Taliban commanders described how they and their fighters were, and are, trained in a network of camps on Pakistani soil.

    According to a commander using the name Mullah Azizullah, the experts running the training are either members of the ISI or have close links to it.

    "They are all the ISI's men. They are the ones who run the training. First they train us about bombs; then they give us practical guidance," he said.

    AL QAEDA TALENT SPOTTING

    Another Taliban fighter, known as Commander Najib, said al Qaeda trainers also operated in the camps, talent spotting possible suicide bombers.

    "I was in the camp for a month ... They were giving us practical training in whatever weapons we specialized in ... Suicide bombers were taken to a different section and were kept apart from us. Those who were taught to be suicide bombers were there," he said.

  • #2
    Here's a portion:

    BBC News - Claim Pakistan 'supports Taliban'

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    • #3
      The documentary was about 60 mins. Interestingly for 55 minutes it was what we already know - i.e. that Pakistan has been playing a double game and covertly supporting the Taliban. It also made it clear that the Americans were alerted to this game early on when senior Taliban were airlifted out of Konduz within day of the announced US invasion. See this report datedNovember 2001.

      It wasn't until the last 5 minutes that the question of WHY the Americans continue to support Pakistan was flagged up. That unfortunately wasn't really explored and if the journalists who put these documentaries together could get to the heart of this then we can really begin to unpick what the American-Pakistan plan for Afghanistan is. Until then it is absolutely pointless - at this very late stage when the Americans are talking of withdrawal for them to come out and lay the blame of their failures on Pakistan's non-cooperation, because the fact is that the Americans have known all along.

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      • #4
        Remember - it's a 2-parter. So the other half is still yet to come. Maybe you will see some of your questions answered in the 2nd part.

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        • #5
          Sanman,
          How can I see this documentary in the US?
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kรกbul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmรกns of the Kohistรกn (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistรกn, but Afghรกnistรกn; for there is nothing there but Afghรกns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghรกnistรกn, and themselves Afghรกns. The people of India call them Patรกn; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmรกns first came to the city of Patnรก, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patรกnsโ€”but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560โ€“1620

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          • #6
            Admin Khan ... I am downloading it for you .

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            • #7
              Merge this thread

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              • #8
                Gentlemen, Part 2 will air on BBC next Wednesday, November 2.

                Here's a bit more (see embedded video on right-hand side of article)

                BBC News - Afghanistan: Pakistan accused of backing Taliban

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sanman View Post
                  Gentlemen, Part 2 will air on BBC next Wednesday, November 2.

                  Here's a bit more (see embedded video on right-hand side of article)

                  BBC News - Afghanistan: Pakistan accused of backing Taliban
                  There are more than a dozen things that shows that this interview is clearly staged.

                  Starting with his appearance :

                  1.He looks like someone from the northern provinces or from the refugees that live in Afghanistan (tajiks,uzbeks,..).

                  2.He has a white turban , which is contrary to the believe of the islamic emirat and the muslims which says that the prophet (pbuh) mostly wore black turban which is a clear sign of the afghan resistance (taliban) mostly wear black turban.

                  3.He speaks farsi and not pashtu,which destroys the illusion that most taliban are supported by pakistan which would be more possible that he is pashtun,pashtu speaking.

                  4.His name : Najib ? a communist criminal !

                  I think they can try it better,
                  lol i remember the interview with this dog nic robertson and staged taliban spokesperson along with the pictures of najibullah.

                  stupid ? ridicules?
                  High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                  • #10
                    bro
                    most of these interviews are paid actors.

                    nic robertson is not a reporter but a propagandist.
                    look at this man of Dostum saying they were wearing uniforms of ISI LOL

                    why would they wear isi clothes if they are so undercover.

                    btw why would Afghans need pakis(the ones they beat along with their british masters) for training?

                    sanman and other propagandist are not muslims so the lies are serving them well.
                    that video is a blow to those propagandist,i could show you many of such videos where they want you to believe the reporter on hi swords not any evidence.
                    for example in that video they show a hazara/uzbek talking and than they show some war going on in Kunar province.
                    Last edited by Guest; 10-27-2011, 07:25 AM.

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                    • #11
                      ^Everyone, even the mighty, needs back up. The Taliban get their back up from somebody. The Pakistanis get there's from somebody too. Even the Americans need backers despite what we commonly think.

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                      • #12
                        ^
                        their backer is the muslims and Afghan people and not a corrupt ant muslim country such as pakistan.
                        you guys want to give the credits to pakistan cuz karzai and americans were not able to defeat the traditional pukhtun resistance.

                        may i ask if you ever been in war?

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                        • #13
                          Secret Pakistan - double cross (full documentary)

                          Lets operate on this propaganda master piece.
                          Secret Pakistan : Double Cross part 1/6 - YouTube
                          PART1
                          on this one they are talking about pakistani military operatives being airlifted from Kunduz and the guy is saying Amrulah saleh told him and than they interview a so called taliban member who speak in Panjsheri farsi accent.
                          than they use mullah zaefs words out of context,and fixing it with commentery from the reporter.
                          so ten flights took them out of the country and americans etc didnt find out?LOL
                          according to this documentary taliban were created by pakistan to combat indian influence.
                          but offcourse Afghans have a different story ,especially the people of kandahar.

                          Secret Pakistan : Double Cross part 2/6 - YouTube
                          Secret Pakistan : Double Cross part 3/6 - YouTube
                          Secret Pakistan : Double Cross part 4/6 - YouTube
                          Secret Pakistan : Double Cross part 5/6 - YouTube
                          Secret Pakistan : Double Cross part 6/6 - YouTube

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                          • #14
                            then why mullah omar akhund didnt intruct people to make jahad against napakistan ? and napak state , in opposite he distanced himself from groups which openly fight against the pakis .

                            so we see , your beloved talibans are also just politicians ...

                            and as soon they are able to do a deal by their own , they are hand over or killed by isi/ napaks .

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                              then why mullah omar akhund didnt intruct people to make jahad against napakistan ? and napak state , in opposite he distanced himself from groups which openly fight against the pakis .

                              so we see , your beloved talibans are also just politicians ...

                              and as soon they are able to do a deal by their own , they are hand over or killed by isi/ napaks .
                              sada gula

                              what is TTP?

                              you think Pashtun Omar will support punjabi against Pashtun?

                              you are clearly dreaming and are a victim of mass propaganda.

                              no where Omar said "dont attack napak state" its just paki propaganda to delegitimize the pashtun resistance of TTP and also inject the propaganda karzai and co created about taliban being supported by isi further into your brain.

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