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  • #61
    Originally posted by shlombay
    ^we should think positive bro.
    I think we should live in dreams
    [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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    • #62
      i have tested this futile unity compaign.. no use to repeat failed attempts.
      open ur eyes princess, in our society a brother is always ready to cut throat of his brother for minor thing like land, how can i expect unity at higher levels?
      [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Smarty View Post
        i have tested this futile unity compaign.. no use to repeat failed attempts.
        open ur eyes princess, in our society a brother is always ready to cut throat of his brother for minor thing like land, how can i expect unity at higher levels?
        You have no other choice. We are being used and abused by Islamabad, NATO and if we push it forward Iran as well (India to an extent, but their role is not as negative as the others). So if you want to ensure the survival then you have to make changes. Otherwise, I can give you a tour to the native american reservations here. If you want to see a broken people, look no further.

        BTW what and how did you test?
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Smarty View Post
          there is some wrong with us pashtuns, a langauge of tajiks (a minority merely 20%) is more successful than a pashto which is spoken by 70% population of country.
          Which holy Pakistani gave you an idea about such ridiculous percentages? Tajiks make up at least 30% of the country and Dari is being spoken and/or understood by 80% of the population, while Pukhtoons make up at least 50% of it's population and Pukhto is spoken and/or understood by 70% of the country. You worry about your Pekhawer buddy, like majority of Pakistani Pukhtoons here.

          Originally posted by Smarty View Post
          i have tested this futile unity compaign.. no use to repeat failed attempts.
          Interesting, what type of a test?
          Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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          • #65
            ^great , kandahar is also my favourite, kandharis are noble people and they can acts as bridge between pakistan and afghanistan.

            i ignored shayesta girl, she is typical tajikised girl.
            [URL="http://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/afghan-sikh-wars.html"][SIZE=5][COLOR=Green]History of Pashtuns[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL]

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Smarty View Post
              ^great , kandahar is also my favourite, kandharis are noble people and they can acts as bridge between pakistan and afghanistan.

              i ignored shayesta girl, she is typical tajikised girl.
              Which Pashtun would utter the word Pakistan, You wrote Kandahar will be the bridge between Pakistan and Afghanistan, in other words, you clearly demostrated your stance, being that one you have accepted British made Borders and second, you accept Pakistan as being your Nation and a representative of Pashtuns.

              Let me clarify with you, If she is a Typical Tajikised Girl, then with no offence intended, you are a typical Desifed Boy who exploits the negative side of Pashtun society to fuel your Pakistaniyat.

              Pakistan is nothing, but a State of Interest for Western Powers, Pakistan has even failed to convince those sincere Muslims of being a Islamic State, yet throughout its History, its exploited Islam's name to serve its Strategic Depth on Soverign Countries across central asia.

              Kind Regards.

              P.S. Atleast translate your Signature into Pushto, We are already Witnessing your Desi side.

              I find it with great laughter, seeing somebody call another being Tajikised, yet you proudly use Urdu(Language of Indian Mojjahirs) as your Signature.

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              • #67
                Yup i am proud pakistani pashtun. by tajikised i mean having agonism towards tajiks and antagonism towards pakistan just like tajiks.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                  Yup i am proud pakistani pashtun. by tajikised i mean having agonism towards tajiks and antagonism towards pakistan just like tajiks.
                  Lollz you are confused. Its ironic you are calling Shayesta a tajikised girl, when she probably has some of the clearest views in terms of politics and pashtun interests. On the other hand, the likes of you, have always put forward anti-pashtun policies. Now to hide your complex you are throwing the tajikised card..lolzz. BTW where do maseed or me stand? We don't have any tajik blood and both are from Pashtunkhwa. Oh wait are we RAW agents lolzz
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                    Yup i am proud pakistani pashtun. by tajikised i mean having agonism towards tajiks and antagonism towards pakistan just like tajiks.
                    But why is Urdu have words Spoken by Tajiks and Hindus?

                    Well, I wouldnt say Tajiks are enemies of Pakistan, both have the same interests, that being keeping Pashtuns divided.

                    Secondly, the only reason why tajiks hate Pakistan, is because as Usual your ISI betrayed them.

                    Kind Regards

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                      Yup i am proud pakistani pashtun. by tajikised i mean having agonism towards tajiks and antagonism towards pakistan just like tajiks.
                      No such thing exists. The interests of the Pashtuns and the Pakistani state are irrevocably at odds.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by pakistani
                        As a Pakistani I only respect Kandahar. Only them.
                        What about Jalalabad who are accepting Pekhawris with open arms and of whom nearly all got very well paid jobs in banks of Nangarhar?

                        Originally posted by pakistani

                        It's funy to see shayestas comments. Because of people like her we can not unify.
                        Talking of being funny, you dream of unity of Pukhtoons despite of being a proud Pakistani? I thought one plus one was two, since when it become eleven?

                        Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                        i ignored shayesta girl, she is typical tajikised girl.
                        Of course you would ignore me! That's because you couldn't answer me what kind of test you have put in practise and nor could you enlighten me about your genius statistics of Afghan population. At least you are smart enough to just shush instead of being put in your place again.

                        Originally posted by Smarty View Post
                        Yup i am proud pakistani pashtun. by tajikised i mean having agonism towards tajiks and antagonism towards pakistan just like tajiks.
                        Guess what kiddo? Half of my family are Pukhtunized Tajiks whose kids don't even know they are Tajiks. And now, I dare you to find me one Pakistani Pukhtoon whose mother is a non-Pukhtana and he knows his history. Go on.
                        Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by pakistani
                          What about us Pakistanis accepting and hiring 2-5 million of your refugees? We accepted you as brothers. Now you talk bad about us?

                          All the other provinces of Afghanistan except Kandahar and the provinces that used to be part of Kandahr which I think is Helmand and etc speak and use Pashto. Kabul, Mazar is all Farsi. and you know this.

                          In order to be educated in Afghanistan you must know Farsi. Pashto has no status. It a national language cause you are majority that is all. Its not used.
                          Pakistani, no one in Afghansitan denies the help they got, but they got it in their ethnic homeland aka pashtunkhwa. How quickly do you all forget? That when the people of malakand division needed help and were made refugees, Panjab and Sindh closed their doors on them. In sindh the nationalist parties would protest at the major entries to the province. Guess who stomached the refugees of malakand? Once again Pashtuns of swabai and mardan. Similarly, the people of FATA are going to either settled districts of Pashtunkhwa or khost, kunarr, paktia. See, even in the worst times you can't rely on your so-called countrymen, it is the pashtuns who are going through all these issues. Kabul city and Kabul province are two different issues.
                          The province of Kabul is majority pashtun, and they can speak pashto just fine. Obviously the urban centres have a persian influence, just like in pashtunkhwa urdu is put on a higher pedestal. Also, it is not only the south which has a pashtun influence, it is also the eastern and central pashtun areas. Such as Kunarr, ningrahar, khost, paktia, paktika, ghor, etc. They speak pashto just fine, and are just as traditional pashtuns as the ones in the south or pashtunkhwa. You are holding on strings. I don't know if you have ever been to school in peshawar, but when we went, we would get double-fined for speaking in pashto in class.

                          The reality is that people here are missing the point. Pashtuns on both sides of the durand line are nothing to be proud of (in terms of achievements). We are weak, divided, politically insignificant and petty. Instead of attempting to one up each other, why don't we pay attention to something useful. Our people are being bombed by pakistan army, and NATO, they are manipulated and starving. Whereas here people are wasting their time arguing which area cares more about pashto. If this trend goes on, we want have a language or a nation to argue over. Please stop this petty nonsense.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Nadir Shah View Post
                            No such thing exists. The interests of the Pashtuns and the Pakistani state are irrevocably at odds.
                            I see a deep, extensive and concrete yet platonic bond developing between us in the coming weeks....
                            "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                            "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by pakistani
                              As a Pakistani I only respect Kandahar. Only them.
                              they are the only ones that use and speak Pashto for everything.

                              It's funy to see shayestas comments. Because of people like her we can not unify.

                              This coming from a proud Pakistani claiming to be a proud Pashtun is just pure irony.


                              You say "you", the Pakistani people, have granted "us", the Afghan and Pashtun people I suppose, shelter? Have granted "us" jobs? Refuge?

                              Who the HELL is Pakistan? My
                              father is older than Pakistan, give me a break! That tiny strip of land was non-existent as a nation a few decades ago while AFGHANISTAN is the empire with a splendid history of thousands and thousands of years, the graveyard of empires..

                              And now a renegade, confused Pashtun has the audacity to speak up against HIS OWN PEOPLE who have been betrayed and SOLD by the people he willingly is selling his soul to.. and has the audacity to tell us that we have been given shelter?! Shelter where, dear brother? In Pakistan? In our land?? I apologize, Pakistan and Afghanistan do not have a valid border since 1993. And the least your little "nation" called Pakistan that you take so much pride in can do after exploiting Afghanistan is at least not deny refuge to the children and women of a country they owe
                              much more than just their very existence to.




                              Thank you.
                              Last edited by Mayana; 06-13-2010, 05:45 AM.

                              Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
                              Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
                              Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
                              .

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                              • #75
                                [QUOTE=Mayana;52338]
                                Who the HELL is Pakistan? My father is older than Pakistan, give me a break! That tiny strip of land was non-existent as a nation a few decades ago while AFGHANISTAN is the empire with a splendid history of thousands and thousands of years, the graveyard of empires..

                                [/QUOTE]

                                Hollow superiority complex!
                                With empty pockets and hunger pains, we can not be called as kings and emperors.
                                Empty vessel make louder sound !
                                WE SHOULD BE PRACTICAL

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